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Yukito Kishiro: They have paid much money to me for speak good about this movie XD

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Watched it and alita rocked!

Eyes did not bug me out one bit..

Been a while since I last saw the anime and flipped thru the manga but this brought memories flooding back ... reminded me of how rich the background/storyline was in spite of the violence...

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Going to see this later today.  I'm not too optimistic about enjoying it though since the eyes bug the crap out of me and the Rotten Tomatoes reviewer scores paint a pretty dismal picture.  Overall it's got a 56 right now and among top critics a 33.

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With titles like these I have learnt not to refer to reviewers too much...they might be too young to appreciate an old style script...:lol:

Besides Alita taking out an eye was worth the price of admission!:p

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I never read the manga but just saw the Prime 1 Studio statue which looks beautiful and I'm hoping the movie is good. I'll get the manga collection afterwards regardless.

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On 2/7/2019 at 3:04 AM, seti88 said:

Watched it and alita rocked!

Eyes did not bug me out one bit..

Been a while since I last saw the anime and flipped thru the manga but this brought memories flooding back ... reminded me of how rich the background/storyline was in spite of the violence...

Sounds good.  I had an opportunity to go to a free screening but I didn’t go because of work.  I’ll still check out this movie when I get the chance.

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My wife and I just watched it and we really liked it!  She didn’t like the ending as much though and wanted more to it.

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Without giving away too much, does the movie have an ending that doesn’t need a sequel? 

I’m just worried that I’ll actually like it, but if it needs a second movie and the cash doesn’t come in then I’ll just be forever frustrated.

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On 2/7/2019 at 12:17 PM, Old_Nash said:

Yukito Kishiro: They have paid much money to me for speak good about this movie XD

Actually, he says nothing good about the movie whatsoever.  Apart from being excited that Cameron and Rodriguez are involved, all he literally said was "I'm not the type who goes into these things with high expectations..."

Mamoru Oshii was similarly mistranslated in the advertising for the Ghost in the Shell live-action film.  <_<

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11 minutes ago, tekering said:

Mamoru Oshii was similarly mistranslated in the advertising for the Ghost in the Shell live-action film.  <_<

I don't remember this. What was said and what was the mistranslation?

I seem to recall something about him mentioning Genghis Khan, but that's about the extent of it...

EDIT:

Anyway, this is the first review to show up on my feed. I haven't seen it yet - I have absolutely zero interest in anything IGN puts out - but figured some of you might/might not get some use from it.

 

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On 2/9/2019 at 2:58 AM, Big s said:

Without giving away too much, does the movie have an ending that doesn’t need a sequel? 

I’m just worried that I’ll actually like it, but if it needs a second movie and the cash doesn’t come in then I’ll just be forever frustrated.

There’s probably a sequel if this one does well.

https://heroichollywood.com/james-cameron-alita-battle-angel-sequel/

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The review on anime news was very positive.

Regardless, I’m looking forward to this on the big screen.

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We watched the anime yesterday.  The movie is an interesting take on that and parts of the manga.

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On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 5:58 AM, Big s said:

Without giving away too much, does the movie have an ending that doesn’t need a sequel? 

I’m just worried that I’ll actually like it, but if it needs a second movie and the cash doesn’t come in then I’ll just be forever frustrated.

If the 1st movie only hints of Desty Nova... can I slap you now? *huge grin* OF course, there has to be at least a trilogy, when you have as much story to tell as Gunmn. My only question is, what current actor, Hollywood-based or otherwise, could play a convincing insane-evil Desty Nova? or will they even include him? That dude was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY into brains... it is even possibly to do a modern PG-13 movie involving brains? They could go a completely different route because of license limitations aka 25% different from Paramount Star Trek IP. 

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Nova

is shown at the ending.  I couldn’t tell which actor was playing him.

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5 hours ago, electric indigo said:

No makeup required!

"And he's wearing that dumb Power Rangers mask.  But he's scarier without it on..."

- Weird Al, "Ode to a Super Hero"

 

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Saw Alita today and as a fan I loved how they intermingled some of the first few story arcs together.  

Now I'm gonna pull out the old mangas and read them again.  

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On 2/11/2019 at 7:56 AM, Dynaman said:

"And he's wearing that dumb Power Rangers mask.  But he's scarier without it on..."

- Weird Al, "Ode to a Super Hero"

 

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He was my first suggestion too, and I've never even seen or heard of Desty before. ^_^ 

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*claps* Oh, how I was such a NOOB to be even remotely worried. I saw it this evening with my daughter (as my wife refused to go, because of Alita's eyes, LOL)… and it was EXCELLENT. My daughter was OMG flipping

Spoiler

when she kissed Hugo

Now I'm totally wondering when they will introduce Den. 10 out of 10 halflings.

6 hours ago, Dangard Ace said:

Saw Alita today and as a fan I loved how they intermingled some of the first few story arcs together.  

Now I'm gonna pull out the old mangas and read them again.  

Spoiler

I especially liked how they changed/altered Ido's and Cheron's specific back story, making them former lovers. It made things happen better later on...

 

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I’ve been hearing that the movie is no where near perfect, but worth seeing in 3D while it’s in theaters. So I’m gonna take my daughter to see it Saturday.

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I thought Christoph Waltz was a pretty good match for Ido, but the likeness between Dafoe and Nova in that profile is downright uncanny. Great thing about Dafoe is that he has amazing range as an actor- he can play good or bad, but I think he relishes his evil roles, as they're always fun to watch.

Anyway, I plan to see A:BA this weekend. The wife doesn't seem too thrilled (she has absolutely no background, whereas I've at least seen the anime a couple times), but I think she'll perk up once the thing gets going. She likes sci-fi and action, so I think she'll come around. And if not, divorce.

JK about the divorce bit.:D I heart my wife.:wub: Almost as much as my toy collection!:p

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I had a day to process what I felt about Ed Norton's Nova and now I think I understand what I did not initially like about that choice but now consider what was lacking: Him with a dinner dish of Jello. If they showed him taking a bite and smiling at the thought of Alita being pissed at him, that would have been FAAAAAAr better.

 

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Saw it with my son today. We both enjoyed it. Pretty good script,

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except for the scene where Alita tries to rile up the bounty hunters, that came from out of nowhere.

And the action was good, with a gradual increase in intensity as the plot progressed. There is some depth to the back stories and some good emotional buildup.  Overall, much better than I expected for a Hollywood anime adaptation, but could be better still.

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10 hours ago, TehPW said:
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I had a day to process what I felt about Ed Norton's Nova and now I think I understand what I did not initially like about that choice but now consider what was lacking: Him with a dinner dish of Jello. If they showed him taking a bite and smiling at the thought of Alita being pissed at him, that would have been FAAAAAAr better.

 

Flan.  But yes agree with the rest.  

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Hello,

  I saw the movie yesterday and really enjoyed it.  I was unfamiliar with the source material going in and found myself wanting to read more.  A quick scan of eBay and these are some of the sets I've found:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273672747764  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202548855352
https://www.ebay.com/itm/372552164436
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162605246332
https://www.ebay.com/itm/152638341208
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202593576406
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222784590302

Some say "Complete Series", some have "Last Order" in the title, but they all appear to be different lengths.  Some are just 9 comics.  But others are 5, 6, 7, 12, or 19 volumes.  Can someone clue me in on what all the differences are?  I'd like to read the original story in English and I'm currently not certain on what I should get.

Also some questions about the movie... maybe some of these are answered in the source material:

Spoiler

 

(1) If Alita is 300 years old why is it stated that she has the mind of a normal teenage girl? Does her cyborg body somehow keep her mind from aging?

(2) It is pointed out that she needs to eat to support her human mind.  So how long was she in the scrap yard where she was found?  If this was 100s of years why didn't she simply starve?

(3) Does she now have more then one body?  The one she has at the end of the movie doesn't appear to be the one she found in the ship.

(4) Does the source material have any more info on the backstory? The war? What the fight was about? How she ended up in the scrap yard?

(5) It is assumed that Alita fell from the floating city into the scrap yard and survived.  So shouldn't Hugo, who fell from a much shorter height have a fair chance of surviving the fall? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, wwwmwww said:

Hello,

  I saw the movie yesterday and really enjoyed it.  I was unfamiliar with the source material going in and found myself wanting to read more.  A quick scan of eBay and these are some of the sets I've found:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273672747764  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202548855352
https://www.ebay.com/itm/372552164436
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162605246332
https://www.ebay.com/itm/152638341208
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202593576406
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222784590302

Some say "Complete Series", some have "Last Order" in the title, but they all appear to be different lengths.  Some are just 9 comics.  But others are 5, 6, 7, 12, or 19 volumes.  Can someone clue me in on what all the differences are?  I'd like to read the original story in English and I'm currently not certain on what I should get.

Also some questions about the movie... maybe some of these are answered in the source material:

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(1) If Alita is 300 years old why is it stated that she has the mind of a normal teenage girl? Does her cyborg body somehow keep her mind from aging?

[That's because when the Martians attacked, she was young then... that long fall apparently hit the pause button inside Alita's head]

(2) It is pointed out that she needs to eat to support her human mind.  So how long was she in the scrap yard where she was found?  If this was 100s of years why didn't she simply starve?

[Plot armor]

(3) Does she now have more then one body?  The one she has at the end of the movie doesn't appear to be the one she found in the ship.

[She's still wearing the Berserker suit at the end of the movie. This might change in a future movie but that's spoiler-rific at this point)

(4) Does the source material have any more info on the backstory? The war? What the fight was about? How she ended up in the scrap yard?

[That depends on which book series you choose to follow. The original book was somewhat vague about Alita's past. Last Order, on the other hand, eventually rights a thesis on her, so to speak. Suffice to say, back in the day, Mars told earth to eat a phallus, a very big phallus. they used canned sunlight and other methods to express that opinion to earth. What the movie does not mention is the big asteroid that hit the earth (in both book series, but it's specifically explained in BAA:LO)]

(5) It is assumed that Alita fell from the floating city into the scrap yard and survived.  So shouldn't Hugo, who fell from a much shorter height have a fair chance of surviving the fall? 

[Less than zero. Alita's body is a Cadillac. Hugo's body was a Yugo...]

 

 

There are two specific manga titles [Battle Angel Alita and Battle Angel Alita: Last Order] They are two distinct stories that what-his-honorable-face created. BAA was the original story (one with a weird ending that he eventually decided to retcon with BAA:LO) and BAA:LO (commonly just referred to as Last order) was his attempt to correct certain flaws in BAA by changing a major event in the later portion of BAA, that spun LO into far more complicated matters.

 

your other questions can be answered somewhat difficultly because it requires one to choose backstory elements from either BAA or BAA:LO....

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I cans thinks! eeeerrrrhhh

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