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It’d be cool if they give you swappable color sensors/visors like that box cover art.

EDIT:  Hopefully, Houquet and the Bartley are up next.

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Maybe we had this wrong the whole time?  Maybe the hot pink pilot that came with the Zeta wasn’t supposed to be Houquet at all?

It was supposed to be Sorji!!! :ph34r:

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1 hour ago, roboemo said:

Toy or Genesis Breaker?
Is it official art also? Also part of me kinda wish they had official version of Jupiter Base.

It's the box for the Green Legioss toy being released in a few days. 

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Quick question for those who ordered early Legioss releases from BBTS. Did anyone receives theirs a month or two after it gets released in Japan? Apologies if this was already mentioned or asked before. Thanks.

 

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15 hours ago, Mog said:

Maybe we had this wrong the whole time?  Maybe the hot pink pilot that came with the Zeta wasn’t supposed to be Houquet at all?

It was supposed to be Sorji!!! :ph34r:

She couldnt afford the installments on her Gosu anymore, and traded down for a Legioss.🤭

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5 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

Quick question for those who ordered early Legioss releases from BBTS. Did anyone receives theirs a month or two after it gets released in Japan? Apologies if this was already mentioned or asked before. Thanks.

 

I would imagine that bbts probably gets them of a ship from overseas. That would probably add a delay for it to get to you. Depending on the traffic and other weather and shipping problems, it isn’t unreasonable to think it may take a couple months more or less

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I do recall BBTS getting them late, but I do not remember how late.  The pandemic played havoc with shipping on top of the usual import delays, so I don't know what you could expect them to be right now.  If you want them quickly, I'd recommend going with a shop based in Japan.

If you already pre-ordered with BBTS, I could see it taking a while.

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1 hour ago, Chronocidal said:

I do recall BBTS getting them late, but I do not remember how late.  The pandemic played havoc with shipping on top of the usual import delays, so I don't know what you could expect them to be right now.  If you want them quickly, I'd recommend going with a shop based in Japan.

If you already pre-ordered with BBTS, I could see it taking a while.

BBTS has been 3-5mo behind pretty consistently throughout the pandemic. Sea shipping is a mother right now.

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My BBTS orders have typically run anywhere from 2-5 months after order (as sqidd mentioned above, 3-5), with it probably usually being around 3.

Honestly, with how fantastic they've been with customer service any time that I've had an issue, going back many years, I don't mind the wait.

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Agreed. I've ordered quite a number of things from them and that $4 shipping is hard to say no to. The cost to that is watching everyone else on here receive theirs months ahead of you. I ordered my Eta from BBTS, got anxious for the zeta and picked it up from AE, and went back to BBTS for the iota. I'm not counting on seeing it until December or so.

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On 8/27/2021 at 10:37 AM, Mog said:

It’d be cool if they give you swappable color sensors/visors like that box cover art.

EDIT:  Hopefully, Houquet and the Bartley are up next.

I wish someone would meet the person in charge of Mospeada licensing and ask them why with every release Rook is last and still doesn't come out. And knowing that they still don't make her first for whatever new toy line.

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42 minutes ago, JetJockey said:

I wish someone would meet the person in charge of Mospeada licensing and ask them why with every release Rook is last and still doesn't come out. And knowing that they still don't make her first for whatever new toy line.

Their answer will be because they don't sell enough units.

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3 hours ago, JetJockey said:

I wish someone would meet the person in charge of Mospeada licensing and ask them why with every release Rook is last and still doesn't come out. And knowing that they still don't make her first for whatever new toy line.

I suspect that the licensing agreements have more to do with what characters/mecha/designs fall within the license, for what types of items, and rights to audit the quality of the products and records of production/sales. What figures, and in what order, actually get release likely has nothing to do with the licensor, but is just up to the licensee.

The licensees are probably pretty much always looking at things like:

- Where can we recoup the most of an initial investment? Make Stig, and the Ray, since they have reasonably high popular and we can reuse 95% of the molds while getting two characters out of it.

- Make Yellow, since it's an almost-guaranteed hot seller, while reusing 80% of the molds that was already paid for.

- If we REALLY need to make more profits before we can afford to invest in new designs/molding, then make Dark versions of the above, since there is some risk as to popularity, but 100% of the molds has already been paid for.

- Make Houquet ONLY if sales are strong enough to believe a perceived less popular character will sell, and we can only reuse around 50% (or less) of the molds... and we need to do brand new designs and testing on smaller joints, limbs, connectors, supports, etc.

It just comes down to costs of entry, in my opinion.

That said, as I mentioned in a post a couple weeks ago, the fact that Sentinel now has access to the new female synthetic human figures as a basis, reducing brand new design and testing work needing to be done, does seem to improve the likelihood of getting a Houquet this time.

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27 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I suspect that the licensing agreements have more to do with what characters/mecha/designs fall within the license, for what types of items, and rights to audit the quality of the products and records of production/sales. What figures, and in what order, actually get release likely has nothing to do with the licensor, but is just up to the licensee.

The licensees are probably pretty much always looking at things like:

- Where can we recoup the most of an initial investment? Make Stig, and the Ray, since they have reasonably high popular and we can reuse 95% of the molds while getting two characters out of it.

- Make Yellow, since it's an almost-guaranteed hot seller, while reusing 80% of the molds that was already paid for.

- If we REALLY need to make more profits before we can afford to invest in new designs/molding, then make Dark versions of the above, since there is some risk as to popularity, but 100% of the molds has already been paid for.

- Make Houquet ONLY if sales are strong enough to believe a perceived less popular character will sell, and we can only reuse around 50% (or less) of the molds... and we need to do brand new designs and testing on smaller joints, limbs, connectors, supports, etc.

It just comes down to costs of entry, in my opinion.

That said, as I mentioned in a post a couple weeks ago, the fact that Sentinel now has access to the new female synthetic human figures as a basis, reducing brand new design and testing work needing to be done, does seem to improve the likelihood of getting a Houquet this time.

So to sum it up the reason we get the same thing over and over, and NEVER get ANY Inbit EVER, is because the consumers are a****s or are perceived to be a***s.

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6 hours ago, Podtastic said:

So to sum it up the reason we get the same thing over and over, and NEVER get ANY Inbit EVER, is because the consumers are a****s or are perceived to be a***s.

That.. is nothing like what was said.  Really, I understand being someone that primarily enjoys something that not many other people do, but it does you no good to assume the worst of people who just aren't interested in buying things they don't care about.

It just makes no sense for businesses to produce products that won't turn them a profit.  That's what garage kits and 3D printers are for, and they are about as good as you can hope to get for filling those gaps.  If someone wants something enough, they'll find a way to make it themselves, regardless of the cost.

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As annoying as it's been, I do understand the business reasons for the delay.

Again, I'm still hopeful we'll finally get Houquet, as Sentinel seems to have a bunch of other lines and products that they produce.

Thanks to that bigger pic @enphily posted, I just noticed that the Iota in the back has eyes painted on the side of the "head." :huh:  That's a bit different from the norm.

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On 8/28/2021 at 4:27 AM, Big s said:

I would imagine that bbts probably gets them of a ship from overseas. That would probably add a delay for it to get to you. Depending on the traffic and other weather and shipping problems, it isn’t unreasonable to think it may take a couple months more or less

On 8/28/2021 at 11:40 AM, Chronocidal said:

I do recall BBTS getting them late, but I do not remember how late.  The pandemic played havoc with shipping on top of the usual import delays, so I don't know what you could expect them to be right now.  If you want them quickly, I'd recommend going with a shop based in Japan.

If you already pre-ordered with BBTS, I could see it taking a while.

On 8/28/2021 at 1:11 PM, sqidd said:

BBTS has been 3-5mo behind pretty consistently throughout the pandemic. Sea shipping is a mother right now.

On 8/28/2021 at 2:20 PM, RavenHawk said:

My BBTS orders have typically run anywhere from 2-5 months after order (as sqidd mentioned above, 3-5), with it probably usually being around 3.

Honestly, with how fantastic they've been with customer service any time that I've had an issue, going back many years, I don't mind the wait.

On 8/29/2021 at 4:02 AM, vladykins said:

Agreed. I've ordered quite a number of things from them and that $4 shipping is hard to say no to. The cost to that is watching everyone else on here receive theirs months ahead of you. I ordered my Eta from BBTS, got anxious for the zeta and picked it up from AE, and went back to BBTS for the iota. I'm not counting on seeing it until December or so.

Thanks for the replies, guys! Really appreciate it.

The reason why I chose BBTS this time because I do have some store credits to use. I don't mind the wait between 2-5 months if ever. We've been doing that long waiting with preorders and not to mention with NY. :rolleyes: As long that they will deliver the goods in a few months, I'm good. :good: 

 

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17 minutes ago, Mog said:

Thanks to that bigger pic @enphily posted, I just noticed that the Iota in the back has eyes painted on the side of the "head." :huh:  That's a bit different from the norm.

I actually kind of like that detail, if only because it looks like something that aircrew would actually do. :lol:  Downside is that it would be upside down and backwards in fighter mode.

I don't think I can justify buying the Iota though.  I grabbed two each of the previous releases, and they're fantastic, but I'm not attached to the franchise enough to feel like a completionist.  I just love the designs, and the Iota's head looks.. clunky, like a mashup of the Eta and Zeta, but taking the worst features of each (purely aesthetically, I love the Zeta's face, but the antenna is annoying in fighter mode).

If I see a discounted one pop up somewhere I'll probably grab one, but I'm absolutely not expecting that.

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10 minutes ago, Valkyrie Hunter D said:

Just reminiscing. What a damn, DAMN shame.

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(Thanks, EXO)

So gorgeous. :wub: 

I was actually late in the game regarding Beagle releases. But man, they really nailed it. :good: 

 

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26 minutes ago, Valkyrie Hunter D said:

Just reminiscing. What a damn, DAMN shame.

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(Thanks, EXO)

Just think of the lucky SOB who has possession of these prototypes, I seriously doubt they were tossed. 

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I just received a shipping notification as well, same estimated ETA.  I guess they overcame the -- very minor -- delay they reported on their last email, and actually got stuff out ahead of schedule... sweet!

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10 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

That.. is nothing like what was said.  Really, I understand being someone that primarily enjoys something that not many other people do, but it does you no good to assume the worst of people who just aren't interested in buying things they don't care about.

It just makes no sense for businesses to produce products that won't turn them a profit.  That's what garage kits and 3D printers are for, and they are about as good as you can hope to get for filling those gaps.  If someone wants something enough, they'll find a way to make it themselves, regardless of the cost.

Only being able to collect toys of one faction, in a scenario that is all about a conflict.

Rather frustrating.

 

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3 hours ago, Podtastic said:

Only being able to collect toys of one faction, in a scenario that is all about a conflict.

Rather frustrating.

 

Agreed, but it is a common issue. Star Wars and Transformers are among the very few franchises where the enemy toys consistently sell in any appreciable volume.

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I think it’s more of an overseas thing. Here in the U.S. the bad guys sell pretty well from the ones above to G.I. Joe and He Man to comic characters. 

Maybe this deal with harmony gold is for the best. Someday down the line the better Japanese companies may see the demand for the baddies and may put out some decent stuff. Or maybe a miracle will happen and the Americans will put out a great release for once. They do seem to be getting a bit better over the years 

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6 hours ago, Big s said:

I think it’s more of an overseas thing.

I think it's a Japanese thing. It's only with these Japanese creations that I really experience this problem to such an extent.

6 hours ago, Big s said:

Someday down the line the better Japanese companies may see the demand for the baddies and may put out some decent stuff

We can only hope.

They put out Star Wars baddies. Their own franchises's baddies seem somewhat under rated...by them.

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22 hours ago, Podtastic said:

Only being able to collect toys of one faction, in a scenario that is all about a conflict.

Rather frustrating.

 

It is, but I would say that is more fallout from the story itself, and the designs for the factions.

If you don't write compelling and relatable enemies, or give them designs unique and desirable enough to give them wide appeal, you're just not going to be able to sell them.  A lot of franchises don't dedicate that much work to their enemies, and focus entirely on the heroes, so the opposing factions just fall by the wayside.

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1 hour ago, Chronocidal said:

and the designs for the factions.

, or give them designs unique and desirable enough to give them wide

The Inbit designs are beautiful. All sexy curves with no ugly, clunky boxes.

And Space Crabs are iconic.. aren't they?

 

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