Ignacio Ocamica Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I wonder if the the DX or the 1/72 version will come with a damaged arm seeing how many times Hayate has lost his. Please God no!!! Don't even use the words DX/valk/toy and damaged arm in the same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 You're good Noel, there is a locking mechanism for the Renewal DX 25's. If it's aesthetics that people have an issue with then fine, but it doesn't change the fact that the toy, when correctly transformed, has the chest area locked securely. Not sure if I'm describing the same thing as you, but the chest, when transformed correctly (pulled, or angled all the way down) causes the chest to lock or hold securely. Of all the issues the DX's had, most of them involve stupid loosening joints. Hips, shoulders, etc. To date my 25A is the only 25 that has avoided every single issue - my copies are still as solid as the day I bought them. Give me a good looking, mostly accurate, solid DX 31 and I'll be happy to throw Bandai more of my money. -b. *edit, just checked my 25F and YF-25, the only other 25 Valkyries I have in Battroid and the chest is locked. And I mean locked in the sense that you can literally turn them upside down, shake the Valk, move it, whatever and the chest does not dangle or fall apart a la earlier YF-19s. I don't see why the 25S would be any different because they all use the exact same design iteration after iteration, but mine is in Fighter covered in Armor Parts, no way I'm taking it all apart just for this discussion. I dunno, maybe someone else can articulate what I'm trying to say better, or they have pictures. But my 25's are good, at least in that one respect. Yup, even if it's OT. I think we're talking about the same thing. I really can't wait to receive my 1/72 VF-31 by mail (why did I take the SAL option? :-( ) I'm assuming because you wanted to save a little dough? In order to save more, you need to wait a little bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 That was a really good video! The transformation looks really interesting and fun to do. I like how everything tabs together, hopefully the Chogokin behaves similarly. Two things I noticed: the hinges that allow the wings to fold in half are awfully tiny! I hope they hold up to repeated folds. Second, English has really entered Japanese. The guy said "wing" many times and "pink" and "green" when describing the head visors. Wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Friction and hopes don't count as a real "locking mechanism" and neither does pushing the shoulders and backplate all the way down and making the 25 battroid look like a kid carrying way too many books in his backpack. None of my 25 battroids "flop around" but they don't have any chest lock either. That's like claiming the Yamato YF-19 chest "locks" because of our planet's gravity holding it down. You're not listening/reading to what's been written. Not once did I say or write friction and I certainly didn't say hopes (extrapolate that to dreams, best wishes, the Force, luck or any other abstract concept). I also didn't mention the backplate - I said the chest. When transformed correctly, it locks. But hey - if your Bandai DX Chogokin Renewal 25s in Battroid are comparable to the old Yamato YF-19 in that way, well then that sucks. And just so I'm clear, again - Renewal 25's not original. I was almost inclined to post links to some transformation videos or the reviews on Anymoon, but at this point, the horse is dead. *Edit, let me soften my tone a bit after the fact, I really don't want or intend to argue or be snide to anyone over this - and I truly do believe that it's just a transformation issue, I just took some umbrage with a couple of comments (I'll blame my lack of sleep and return to work after vacation). Also, I'm not a "Bandai guy" in the Bandai vs. Yamato/Arcadia fight, I'm fine with pointing out the flaws in both company's products, I just don't see the chest area being one of them on the renewal. This because there is a designed mechanism that allows the chest to lock, securely - by design. Additionally, I have 3 of them in Battroid mode now, on display where the chest is securely locked with the correct, or designed transformation of each. -b. Edited July 7, 2016 by Kanedas Bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Hey, if imagining a non-existent feature increases your enjoyment of a toy, who am I to try and take that away from anyone? Enjoy and be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Hi guys, in the model kit, the nose gear doors open up to reveal a hole, which is then used to slot in the peg on the "back bone" when transforming to battroof. But that's not going to happen in the DX version, right? Since the landing gear in the wheelwell is not going to afford any hole for that to happen... Correct me if I got it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barurutor Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Who knows? Maybe the front landing gear strut may have a peg which slots into a hole in the "back bone" in the DX version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Possible... But the DX nose bay doors open outwards unlike the kit... Just wondering if that becomes an obstruction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I wonder how Bandai will do all the locks on the same spots as the 1/72 model. Surely they will not have a removable front gear so the landing gear lock of the model is out...i hope....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Hi guys, in the model kit, the nose gear doors open up to reveal a hole, which is then used to slot in the peg on the "back bone" when transforming to battroof. But that's not going to happen in the DX version, right? Since the landing gear in the wheelwell is not going to afford any hole for that to happen... Correct me if I got it wrong. On the model, that peg/slot serves no purpose other than to lock the upper chest/nose into the lower waist/"back bone". If you were to remove that entirely, the result might be a bit floppier but would look otherwise the same. You can achieve the same/similar effect through other means, such as making that swing joint a ratcheting one, or making said joint be a pull-out, lock-into-place affair as is the case with most of the kit. I wager the only reason it's implemented this way is to consolidate features. Smart engineering (though not so great model, but blah). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 It was also posted in this thread back in March. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=43115&p=1262220 i know Im pulling this up, and Im sorry if this has been discussed but; Did you all notice it doesn't have the shoulder locks the 30 has? Like, the arms pivot around to below the canards at the front, but the little flip out locks aren't there. Wonder if that will cause shoulder issues...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurance Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 i know Im pulling this up, and Im sorry if this has been discussed but; Did you all notice it doesn't have the shoulder locks the 30 has? Like, the arms pivot around to below the canards at the front, but the little flip out locks aren't there. Wonder if that will cause shoulder issues...?On my yf-30 one of those clips were broken right out of the box, so I didn't use it. But the shoulder joint was stiff enough that it didn't cause a problem for me. Hopefully it'll work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Whats the preorder date on this? I assume 4 PM JST? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Any chance we get pinpoint barriers for weapon effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I guess there's a chance the VF-31 may come with pinpoint barrier effects as the VF-19Advance had them. Personally not bothered though, as I never use the once with the VF-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaino Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 how did they work on the 19 advance? how i imagine it working in my mind is an exposed socket to snap them in (which is a terrible idea) or have a little hatch on the arms where you would open up to expose the socket to put them in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The pin point barrier punch effect was a replacement hand for the arm. So pop the regular fist out of the socket and put the punching effect into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The pin point barrier punch effect was a replacement hand for the arm. So pop the regular fist out of the socket and put the punching effect into it. I have three VF-19 Advance and I haven't ever taken any of those pin point barrier punch effects out of the boxes! too gimmicky for me.. Does anyone ever use em? If any of the 31's come with something similar im sure they too will remain in the boxes! hehe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I have three VF-19 Advance and I haven't ever taken any of those pin point barrier punch effects out of the boxes! too gimmicky for me.. Does anyone ever use em? If any of the 31's come with something similar im sure they too will remain in the boxes! hehe! I've never used them, I think they're awful looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I wish the pin-point barriers were absent and instead they had some freaking missiles. Like nothing comes with missiles. The only reason I have an arsenal of missiles is my crazy vf-171 collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 While I enjoy the inclusion of effect parts I would've preferred the arm mounted weapon pack. Why does no Y/VF-19 toy come with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yes have to agree there! missiles or the weapons pack would have been a much more welcome inclusion. I didn't want to sound so negative about the effects parts but they really do suck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) If they were toned down a bit, less generically anime and more specifically M+, I think people would use them more. As for the arm cannon, would that get in the way of transformation? Edited July 21, 2016 by kajnrig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Very likely, unless they found a way to unfold it and sit underneath both arms in fighter mode, but even then I think it's slightly too bulky to fit, since it fits around 3 sides of the arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXTL Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Figure King magazine scans https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/photos/pcb.1165805196814327/1165802850147895/?type=3&theater MSRP - 21,600 yen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Should be 20,000 yen without the tax. Gonna save up for 31F and CFs, hopefully, the yen exchange rate improves by then. edit: looks like it has the ugly rear landing gears from model kit Edited July 22, 2016 by chyll2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbadon Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Yup. I'm ready! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barurutor Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 DX chogokin getting pricier now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Well it's getting pricier as per the macross inflation index.. On the bright side we get removable boomerang drones and the pleasure of searching for them after accidentally dropping em.. On the front fuselage the landing gear bay doors are opening like they should and the nose gear looks as unattractive as any other dx... However the color scheme seems to be translating along nicely into the final dx version .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 im ready! bring it on! bring them all on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I can't wait for the Hayate pilot figure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I can't wait for the Hayate pilot figure! there's only been one other who doesn't wear a helmet eh! Nekki Basara.. should be pretty cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfinkel Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Bring it!I just assembled a couple of the tiny mecha collection 31s and i am super excited for the dx! Edit: Is it just me that thinks the landing gear may work and could actually look good? Edited July 22, 2016 by Garfinkel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurance Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Oh thank goodness the fighter can store articulated hands, not just the karate chop hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Can anyone translate what the article says about the boomerang drones? To me they seem a bit too tiny to have the ability to fold out from their storage mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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