jenius Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I'm not faulting anyone for thinking the other company is Yamato. But read what you quoted again. It's pretty clear that there are two companies discussed and a third party (the contractor). There's no relationship there between the two companies (Bandai and Yamato) other than the fact they both have used the same contractor. If Al dates Marie and breaks up with her, then Bruce dates Marie, it's not right to say that Al has dated Bruce. Just so we're all clear, I never meant to imply a Bandai/Yamato relationship. I think most people get that. These big companies outsource aspects of the toy creation. There's usually nothing stopping two big brand names you've heard of from getting help from the same individuals you probably haven't heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I'm not faulting anyone for thinking the other company is Yamato. But read what you quoted again. It's pretty clear that there are two companies discussed and a third party (the contractor). There's no relationship there between the two companies (Bandai and Yamato) other than the fact they both have used the same contractor. If Al dates Marie and breaks up with her, then Bruce dates Marie, it's not right to say that Al has dated Bruce. Just so we're all clear, I never meant to imply a Bandai/Yamato relationship. I think most people get that. These big companies outsource aspects of the toy creation. There's usually nothing stopping two big brand names you've heard of from getting help from the same individuals you probably haven't heard of. This is my fault, I said "yamdai" as a joke and I think some people read that and got the wrong idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 If Al dates Marie and breaks up with her, then Bruce dates Marie, it's not right to say that Al has dated Bruce. but it WOULD be right to say that Bruce has had sex with Al... I don't know what that has to do with the discussion though. maybe the other Macross product making company in question is Toynami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 No worries, and I can also see where anyone skimming my review might have gotten the impression... hopefully I've just dabbed a bit more light on it before it becomes something even more grand through the Internet game of telephone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vifam7 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 No worries, and I can also see where anyone skimming my review might have gotten the impression... hopefully I've just dabbed a bit more light on it before it becomes something even more grand through the Internet game of telephone. It is very much appreciated. And I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Bandai/Yamato hires contractors for assistance in developing a toy. Even with the old 1/55, Takatoku had Matsushiro do the drafting work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMax Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Just also to clarify. What I meant to say is that when the 3rd party contractor has worked for anotheR producer of high end macross toys, people would naturally think Yamato, and from there people connotes a clear toy design lineage. Of course, nothing wrong with that and it is common for different Companies to sub-contract to the same people in the industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0n5t3r Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 just saw this while surfing - DX VF-25F Tornado w/ Ranka poster from Amiami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc07 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Looks whiter than the super parts bundle version or is it just the lighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jediwalker Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Looks whiter than the super parts bundle version or is it just the lighting? Definitely white, like in the series. Makes you wonder what's the deal with the super parts bundle (movie version) in light blue then...? So where do we go with the Tornado messiah? Did Alto's eventually decided that he liked white better in the movie? I like the movie version of Alto, but would've preferred to have the original colors anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc07 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Definitely white, like in the series. Makes you wonder what's the deal with the super parts bundle (movie version) in light blue then...? So where do we go with the Tornado messiah? Did Alto's eventually decided that he liked white better in the movie? I like the movie version of Alto, but would've preferred to have the original colors anytime. notice that the head laser is movie colors , metallic joints, But the knee color is TV colors. so it's movie+tv colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regult Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 after dozens of pages with the better DX VF-27, the ugly DX VF-25 is back again...makes me wish for a Version 2 even more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Positronic Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 My VF-27 has been on a flexi (in F-Mode w/ beam cannon attached) for the last several days. One leg is behind the back of the gunpod (right underneath the shield), the other two legs are just to the sides of the intakes. No balancing problems whatsoever. Thanks! I tried it that way and it seems to be balancing nicely. Looks pretty good too since I was able to get the nose pointing up further than I had it the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntsan Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Well Yamadai is a food company http://www.yamadai.jp/eng/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Definitely white, like in the series. Makes you wonder what's the deal with the super parts bundle (movie version) in light blue then...? So where do we go with the Tornado messiah? Did Alto's eventually decided that he liked white better in the movie? I like the movie version of Alto, but would've preferred to have the original colors anytime. Maybe the blue one was Gilliam's or one of the other ones that Alto went through. And the Tornado was the replacement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Maybe the blue one was Gilliam's or one of the other ones that Alto went through. And the Tornado was the replacement... Nay, I think the bluish one is for the planet Pandora. But then Kawamori realised he's no James Cameron and decided to switch back to the original color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regult Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 wait till you get your tornado pack bundle for the final word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Z Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Got my VF-27 today, awesome piece. The sculpt is spectacular all over. I own a few Yammies, but the Bandai DX stuff is just so much more nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Got my VF-27 today, awesome piece. The sculpt is spectacular all over. I own a few Yammies, but the Bandai DX stuff is just so much more nicer. I guess that depends on what Yamato stuff you have. The DXes are nice, but not V2 VF-1 nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I guess that depends on what Yamato stuff you have. The DXes are nice, but not V2 VF-1 nice. DX's don't have exploding shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 DX's don't have exploding shoulders. Even worse, they have crotch issues. I'd rather my shoulder explode than have crotch issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I'd rather my shoulder explode than have crotch issues. Quoted for out of place truth. Although, personally, I think I'd rather keep my arms intact, and adopt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 If the crotch on a DX toy is loose that can be fixed with a piece of paper or any one of a number of simple household remedies. All you need to do is stiffen up a connection. If the shoulder explodes on Your Yammie you're stuck with an armless battroid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Even worse, they have crotch issues. I'd rather my shoulder explode than have crotch issues. They have pills now to treat such issues with your nether regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMax Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Even worse, they have crotch issues. I'd rather my shoulder explode than have crotch issues. Ah... someone who shares similar sentiments... I literally had to resort to "implants" to firm up the filmsy crotchs of the VF-25s. They can finally now stand upright on their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 If the crotch on a DX toy is loose that can be fixed with a piece of paper or any one of a number of simple household remedies. All you need to do is stiffen up a connection. If the shoulder explodes on Your Yammie you're stuck with an armless battroid. you can also fix your exploding cancer causing shoulders with common household objects. But whatever, yes, all yamato shoulders explode and kill small woodland creatures and when children eat the bits and pieces it causes autism and at night your yamato toys conspire to form an army of one armed mechs and form death panels where they hold down Bandai's and chip the paint off of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 you can also fix your exploding cancer causing shoulders with common household objects. But whatever, yes, all yamato shoulders explode and kill small woodland creatures and when children eat the bits and pieces it causes autism and at night your yamato toys conspire to form an army of one armed mechs and form death panels where they hold down Bandai's and chip the paint off of them. Don't forget using the broken arm as a club to beat to death babies and saintly grandmothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Z Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I guess that depends on what Yamato stuff you have. The DXes are nice, but not V2 VF-1 nice. I prefer my VF-25 Alto with full armor and my VF-27 over my 1/60 VF-11C or VE-1 (and all my other 1/60 and 1/48 figures actually). Unfortunately, Yammies don't feel as nice as they look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Definitely white, like in the series. Makes you wonder what's the deal with the super parts bundle (movie version) in light blue then...? So where do we go with the Tornado messiah? Did Alto's eventually decided that he liked white better in the movie? I like the movie version of Alto, but would've preferred to have the original colors anytime. Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I have all the movie guide books (3 or 4 of them) and none of the screen shots in the books show the VF-25 with a blue tint. I strongly suspect that the whole blue tint thing was Bandai's idea, nothing to do with the movie and they just slapped the movie label on it to try and get it to sell. Why on earth they thought people would actually like the blue tint is beyond me. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I have all the movie guide books (3 or 4 of them) and none of the screen shots in the books show the VF-25 with a blue tint. I strongly suspect that the whole blue tint thing was Bandai's idea, nothing to do with the movie and they just slapped the movie label on it to try and get it to sell. Why on earth they thought people would actually like the blue tint is beyond me. Graham Yea I was watching a trailer for the movie and the fast packdidnt look that blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I have all the movie guide books (3 or 4 of them) and none of the screen shots in the books show the VF-25 with a blue tint. I strongly suspect that the whole blue tint thing was Bandai's idea, nothing to do with the movie and they just slapped the movie label on it to try and get it to sell. Why on earth they thought people would actually like the blue tint is beyond me. Graham I'm guessing they wanted to make a collectible so that people would buy a second Alto....but people thought the colour was stupid. Which is why I got a fastpack vf-25f WITH fast packs AND a stand for clearance prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'm guessing they wanted to make a collectible so that people would buy a second Alto....but people thought the colour was stupid. Which is why I got a fastpack vf-25f WITH fast packs AND a stand for clearance prices. Hmmm, I actually like the blue tint of the valk. The armor is a little too blue but not bad. The deal hunter in me bought the alto super parts set and thinks its just dandy. I put the fast pack on and all. Looks way better in person that pictures. The purist in me is eventually gonna get a normal colored white alto...to go with the heavy armor set i just got a good deal (deal hunter for life!!!) on. Damnit...bandai got me. haha. Actually bandai would REALLY get me if they release a dx chogokin VF-171 nightmare plus with the anti vajra attachments...i'd buy that in a heartbeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow0621 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just got my VF-27 yesterday and already the paint in the nosecone chipped... was done during transformation as the nosecone / chest area is pretty tight. Then I remember reading about applying a clearcoat on it first (doh!) I don't do well with paint / markers so I just removed all the remaining (pink) paint off the nosecone...now I have a variant. Other than this issue (which is now fixed), the toy is great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 When I get my Grace, I fully intend to open the box, apply Future to the nosecone, and let it sit for the rest of the day. Then probably apply a second coat. THEN take it out of the styrofoam and transform it for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Where can I get this Future and how much of it should I apply to my nosecone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Where can I get this Future and how much of it should I apply to my nosecone? Future can be found at your grocery store, I think they changed the name now to "Pledge with Future" or come crap like that. It comes in a clear bottle with a blue top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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