ArchieNov Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Why don't people just look at this one? http://macross2.net/m3/macrosszero/variant-vf-0a-shin.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Why don't people just look at this one? http://macross2.net/m3/macrosszero/variant-vf-0a-shin.htm Because despite Mr. March's great work he isn't the absolute production authority on the matter. He recolors those pictures themselves and unless he has reference material that shows the fins as blue he could have used the cover of the Hasegawa kit, etc... which is done gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think the VF-0 sold well for Yamato as I don't recall them being heavily discounted at all. The only one that failed was the Nora and CF SV-51 which were heavily discounted. Grahamn mentioned in a post a few years ago that yamato was most likely not going to revisit the Zero line because they viewed it as a a failure. This is back when Grahamn had contacts within yamato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Because despite Mr. March's great work he isn't the absolute production authority on the matter. He recolors those pictures themselves and unless he has reference material that shows the fins as blue he could have used the cover of the Hasegawa kit, etc... which is done gray. What about images from Macross Chronicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Grahamn mentioned in a post a few years ago that yamato was most likely not going to revisit the Zero line because they viewed it as a a failure. This is back when Grahamn had contacts within yamato. How brave of Yamato to blame the Zero franchise when majority of the 0 release back then were exploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Here we go again , I'm waiting until we know these are in fact the final production colors. So far I'm liking what I see, I think a good blue grey shade might satisfy the majority. We see it in both shades in the anime so why not do it In between both colors.. Edited August 14, 2015 by Loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 everyone argue till it turns blue... now, i blame everyone for defending the 0d colors, it's all your fault. then i'm going to blame my monitor for not having correct color calibration, that's really the reason why it turned out blue not grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 How brave of Yamato to blame the Zero franchise when majority of the 0 release back then were exploding. that's anime accuracy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Wow, I'd forgotten just how bad the durability of those toys was... this thread definitely brings back memories. I'm glad Arcadia chose to revisit the series. While the toys are astronomically priced now there's no question they're better than the first go around, strange color choices and all. Unfortunately given the prices... I find myself gravitating back to more recent Bandai releases much more often... maybe because the sky high price has me afraid to touch my Arcadia stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 For some reasons, I find the new light grey with blue color accent likeable. Though I wish they made the blue a little darker and desaturated. But all in all, I'm glad that I preordered this one even though it's not part of my list. It's the announcement of the VF-0S Reactive Armor that made me preorder this one for the Ghost Booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Wow, I'd forgotten just how bad the durability of those toys was... this thread definitely brings back memories. I'm glad Arcadia chose to revisit the series. While the toys are astronomically priced now there's no question they're better than the first go around, strange color choices and all. Unfortunately given the prices... I find myself gravitating back to more recent Bandai releases much more often... maybe because the sky high price has me afraid to touch my Arcadia stuff. this + 1. I'm exactly the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's just funny sometimes to see something like this. An Arcadia logo and a grey motif VF-0A. But compared to this grey, I kinda like the new light grey better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think that one is one of the CF versions based on the color and modex (as in not Shin's 311). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) im thinking I might have to up the CF-0 count to 2! Shin x1 Roy x2 (1 clean, 1 reactive armor) CF x2 (for posing purposes..) will also need to find a second (cash no tax) job to fund all this! Edited August 14, 2015 by spanner76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 i just noticed the back of the backpack has blue as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) ok, i figured out the colors in the anime why the fins and back leg stripes are sometimes grey and sometimes blue. The fins match the color of the sky in each specific scene. so if the sky is grey the fins will match it. if the sky is blue the fins will match it. i caught the very end of episode 5 and the fins are blue when Shin's 0A is leaving behind a feather trail before leaving for the skies right before the ending credits. if you watch, the skies are clear from weather and a rich blue. it's extremely possible that Arcadia got Shin's vf-0A colors correct. especially when the skies are clear. Edited August 15, 2015 by davidwhangchoi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaajin Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 ok, i figured out the colors in the anime why the fins and back leg stripes are sometimes grey and sometimes blue. The fins match the color of the sky in each specific scene. so if the sky is grey the fins will match it. if the sky is blue the fins will match it. i caught the very end of episode 5 and the fins are blue when Shin's 0A is leaving behind a feather trail before leaving for the skies right before the ending credits. if you watch, the skies are clear from weather and a rich blue. it's extremely possible that Arcadia got Shin's vf-0A colors correct. especially when the skies are clear. oh, so now the color depends on the weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I think it depends if it's DVD or Blu-ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukenzero Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 When is this bird supposed to drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 i just noticed the back of the backpack has blue as well I don't mind that little blue detail at all actually! If it even remains with the final release version. If not them im not particularly fussed.. When is this bird supposed to drop? I assume you are referring to its intended release yes? End of this month apparently.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Getting one even if the shade of blue/grey/whatever is slightly off, because it still looks fantastic. At the end of the day, as always, vote with your wallets. The high cost of Arcadia items prohibits me from getting more than one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 indeed it does look fantastic! And yes it is rather unfortunate that Arcadia is demanding a premium for these.. I guess we just have to like it or lump it eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 ok, i figured out the colors in the anime why the fins and back leg stripes are sometimes grey and sometimes blue. The fins match the color of the sky in each specific scene. so if the sky is grey the fins will match it. if the sky is blue the fins will match it. i caught the very end of episode 5 and the fins are blue when Shin's 0A is leaving behind a feather trail before leaving for the skies right before the ending credits. if you watch, the skies are clear from weather and a rich blue. it's extremely possible that Arcadia got Shin's vf-0A colors correct. especially when the skies are clear. Interesting observation. Either that or there was an animation error and the fins are opaque and are taking on whatever color is in the background. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 ok, i figured out the colors in the anime why the fins and back leg stripes are sometimes grey and sometimes blue. The fins match the color of the sky in each specific scene. so if the sky is grey the fins will match it. if the sky is blue the fins will match it. i caught the very end of episode 5 and the fins are blue when Shin's 0A is leaving behind a feather trail before leaving for the skies right before the ending credits. if you watch, the skies are clear from weather and a rich blue. it's extremely possible that Arcadia got Shin's vf-0A colors correct. especially when the skies are clear. Hmmm... I'm not sure. I'm just not seeing it in the scene you're describing. Here's Shin right after coming out of the water. This is the only part where you can get a decent view of the fin after he has come back up. Other than the blue light surrounding the valk, the fin itself is not very blue. Instead of relying on my eyes in case they are mistaken, I opened in GIMP and used the color picker to get the RGB values on a part of the fin that wasn't covered by the blue light. I got 32 Red, 11 Green, 16 Blue. Here's just before all those feathers are released. It's about as close to being able to see it clearly as you're going to get from this angle. It has a golden color reflecting off of it, so not blue. And finally after the feathers stop obscuring the valk enough to see much of it again. Can't really see the fins at this point: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggy99 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The CF VF-0A is more of the colour I like. Also that lets me stick to my rule of no hero valks (exception is Isamu Dyson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoblue Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Sweet. This g-mode pic is really good! i just noticed the back of the backpack has blue as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hmmm... I'm not sure. I'm just not seeing it in the scene you're describing. Here's Shin right after coming out of the water. This is the only part where you can get a decent view of the fin after he has come back up. Other than the blue light surrounding the valk, the fin itself is not very blue. Instead of relying on my eyes in case they are mistaken, I opened in GIMP and used the color picker to get the RGB values on a part of the fin that wasn't covered by the blue light. I got 32 Red, 11 Green, 16 Blue. Here's just before all those feathers are released. It's about as close to being able to see it clearly as you're going to get from this angle. It has a golden color reflecting off of it, so not blue. And finally after the feathers stop obscuring the valk enough to see much of it again. Can't really see the fins at this point: wondering if the blu ray is color corrected or a bad clip i'm watching online or it's perhaps just grey. i just remember same thing happened with DYRL. Kaki's colors looked dark blue on the dvd rip then the blu ray remaster changed the color for some meltraedi ships to pink in the final fight scenes and kaki's color to bring the green out more. Even the psx macross dyrl game footage which is included in the blu ray remaster was confused with kaki's colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoexcaliber Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) That blue fin... The one in the anime does kinda match the 0d's blue as well so it makes sense that it'll appear as bad as the 1/60 vf-0d. They should've made it gray. I wonder if the CF will also have blue fins. Edited August 15, 2015 by neoexcaliber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 the red reflectors on the nose are too thin! and should be dark red not vermillion! noooo....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 wondering if the blu ray is color corrected or a bad clip i'm watching online or it's perhaps just grey. i just remember same thing happened with DYRL. Kaki's colors looked dark blue on the dvd rip then the blu ray remaster changed the color for some meltraedi ships to pink in the final fight scenes and kaki's color to bring the green out more. Even the psx macross dyrl game footage which is included in the blu ray remaster was confused with kaki's colors. I believe high compression can cause a noticeable loss of color fidelity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Is it possible there are production notes that indicate the 0A Shin is flying was technically supposed to be the color of his 0D but since this emergency sprang up he's flying an only partially painted fighter? Or one of the animators decided to put a bit of the color from the 0D on the 0A to signify it's still the same pilot? This is a pretty confusing situation really. And despite how much people dislike the color of the 0D it was a blue plane and they made it blue. I don 't believe Arcadia just up and went "f.u.c.k. it, just make 0A the stabilizers blue" without some sort of reference telling them it was that color (regardless of whether they actually get the tone of it correct.) Edited August 15, 2015 by Mommar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Mommar, I agree on the VF-0D blue comment. It can easily be demonstrated that it should be a dark blue color, now as far as the shade or tone as you said that is another debate.. Ithink in peoples mind they want a light blue color due to the weathering and paint wear. Edited August 15, 2015 by Loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 You know, for the ridiculous amount that Arcadia is scalping for the Zero line, they should've just applied weathered coloring on 'em in the first place.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) You know, for the ridiculous amount that Arcadia is scalping for the Zero line, they should've just applied weathered coloring on 'em in the first place.. It's better they didn't. Their (well, Yamato's) out of the box weathering never looked good to begin with. I'd rather they'd have spent that effort applying more tampo printing to it since it's sorely lacking. Edited August 16, 2015 by MacrossJunkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 From what I'm getting from a thread I started asking about the tail fin in the official Macross thread Macross Chronicle shows the stabilizers as being "light grey" with a hint of blue. Which I feel is a good description for the main portion of the toys body, but doesn't jive with the toys stabilizer or some of the confusing, more blue, screen shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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