jenius Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hasn't that preorder page been there forever? They also had the preorder up for Yellows Ride Armor for a long while. It seems silly to release it now though... the Alpha that goes with it is now very old by today's standards and desperately in need of a "renewal" version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Blade Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hasn't that preorder page been there forever? They also had the preorder up for Yellows Ride Armor for a long while. It seems silly to release it now though... the Alpha that goes with it is now very old by today's standards and desperately in need of a "renewal" version. I'm really not sure, but I don't remember seeing it on their main page before today. A retooled or redesigned Alpha in every color would be welcome as far as I'm concerned providing they can still combine with the current Betas. The only improvements the Beta needs are an anime-accurate chest and integrated landing gear / connection bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson13 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 It's too little, to late if you ask me. Especially if they want $170 for it. You can find alpha/beta combos on ebay for $120. HG just needs to sell the damn license already because they aren't taking advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I'm really not sure, but I don't remember seeing it on their main page before today. A retooled or redesigned Alpha in every color would be welcome as far as I'm concerned providing they can still combine with the current Betas. The only improvements the Beta needs are an anime-accurate chest and integrated landing gear / connection bar. The Beta HIPS slide in and out FAR too easy as well, Ooooo - and add the top shoulder missile bays. A chest cover would have been so easy for them to include too. They made a square cover where the connection-extender attaches - heaven's sake why not make the chest cover since all your prototype photos showed it that way anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Looks for real - very surprised. The included "Synchro Cannon" makes it slightly interesting. The yellow "fried egg eyes" really stand out in soldier mode - chest cover please. If I bite and get one it will be staying in bomber/fighter mode for sure... TOYNAMI ROBOTECH BETA FIGHTER VOLUME 04 After a long wait, Toynami will finally be releasing the final Beta Fighter. This version is done in the dark scheme of the fourth Alpha Fighter and comes with a brand-new Synchro Cannon. it is limited to just 3000 pieces, comes with a numbered Certificate of Authenticity and is listed at $168.99, $31 below the MSRP. Edited June 13, 2012 by DarrinG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tober Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I'm kinda suprised too. Toywiz just put up their pre-order as well. Same price, even crappier store... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Does firing the synchro cannon make the toy completely fall apart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 November??? hahahahahaha! yeeeaaaaah. OK...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson13 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Does firing the synchro cannon make the toy completely fall apart? Well at least the toy will be anime accurate at that point, it warms up the cannon and then it falls to pieces. Edited June 15, 2012 by Benson13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Looks for real - very surprised. The included "Synchro Cannon" makes it slightly interesting. The yellow "fried egg eyes" really stand out in soldier mode - chest cover please. If I bite and get one it will be staying in bomber/fighter mode for sure... TOYNAMI ROBOTECH BETA FIGHTER VOLUME 04 After a long wait, Toynami will finally be releasing the final Beta Fighter. This version is done in the dark scheme of the fourth Alpha Fighter and comes with a brand-new Synchro Cannon. it is limited to just 3000 pieces, comes with a numbered Certificate of Authenticity and is listed at $168.99, $31 below the MSRP. Guess that ship from China finally left. (An inside joke from some unreliable people in another place) Edited June 15, 2012 by Einherjar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'm really not sure, but I don't remember seeing it on their main page before today. A retooled or redesigned Alpha in every color would be welcome as far as I'm concerned providing they can still combine with the current Betas. The only improvements the Beta needs are an anime-accurate chest and integrated landing gear / connection bar. I wouldn't mind a redesigned Alpha at all. Honestly though, the chest never really bothered me with the Betas. But considering the huge gap between the cockpit and the rest of the Beta in bomber mode, I wonder how hard it would have been to engineering/design an anime-accurate chest that also doubles as a gap filler in bomber mode? It'd make the nosecone-to-chest transformation a lot more complicated (From bomber, slide forward the new gap filler onto the nosecone, twist nosecone 180 degrees, flip down nosecone, and viola, anime-accurate chest that hides the nosecone and its yellow windows). Again, it'd be a complex design, and could we trust Toynami to deliver on such a tricky design feature? . . . . On second thought, maybe an anime accurate chest cover would have been the best way to go! Regarding the integrated connection bar, giving the limited amount of space, I doubt they could make something that looks as clean and as seamless as the separate connection piece. A telescoping connection bar would look kinda whack. Lastly, with the shoulder missiles, it would have been a tight fit (with the way the shoulders go up and down during the transformation), but there should have been enough room for them to add that feature. Kinda sucks they never had that in the initial design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 we MOSPEADA fans are more than likely never gonna see another Beta in our lifetime....Might as well love what we got I'm afraid. At least it was a pretty solid release from Toynami. Glad it didn't suffer from Alpha-itus.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson13 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'll eventually get an Alpha/Beta combo. Which company do you recommend to get a green combo from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 we MOSPEADA fans are more than likely never gonna see another Beta in our lifetime....Might as well love what we got I'm afraid. At least it was a pretty solid release from Toynami. Glad it didn't suffer from Alpha-itus.... Mospeada's 30th anniversary is next year. I nominate Yamato to make a sick Legioss & Tread combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I heard for shucks and giggles a Japanese design firm took it upon themselves to design the ultimate Legioss toy... but they just work on it when they've got some down time and they have no expectation of ever seeing it made. Too bad too. I sent in a request that, since it's all a pipe dream anyway, they include some connection mechanisms for the never-to-be-made (or even designed) Tread as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 That is amazing! I'd love to see what they've come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 About frakking time there releasing this! I love the Shadow Beta/Dark Tread. Someone needs to mold a proper Chest plate for these Beta's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps99042 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 About frakking time there releasing this! I love the Shadow Beta/Dark Tread. Someone needs to mold a proper Chest plate for these Beta's. Is the Shadow Beta confirmed as being released? We've only seen a couple preorders being listed so far but no official news of the release from HG or Toynami. Preorders for this beauty were posted multiple times in the past so has anything really changed other than a new pic of a bonus Synchrocannon being included? Guess we'll find out in a few weeks at Comic-Con... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I wouldn't mind a redesigned Alpha at all. Honestly though, the chest never really bothered me with the Betas. But considering the huge gap between the cockpit and the rest of the Beta in bomber mode, I wonder how hard it would have been to engineering/design an anime-accurate chest that also doubles as a gap filler in bomber mode? It'd make the nosecone-to-chest transformation a lot more complicated (From bomber, slide forward the new gap filler onto the nosecone, twist nosecone 180 degrees, flip down nosecone, and viola, anime-accurate chest that hides the nosecone and its yellow windows). Again, it'd be a complex design, and could we trust Toynami to deliver on such a tricky design feature? . . . . On second thought, maybe an anime accurate chest cover would have been the best way to go! Regarding the integrated connection bar, giving the limited amount of space, I doubt they could make something that looks as clean and as seamless as the separate connection piece. A telescoping connection bar would look kinda whack. Lastly, with the shoulder missiles, it would have been a tight fit (with the way the shoulders go up and down during the transformation), but there should have been enough room for them to add that feature. Kinda sucks they never had that in the initial design. A chest-cover that doubles as a bomber gap-filler? VERY COOL. There is certainly the talent on these boards to pull this off, they just need to the time and fans willing to buy a few. I'm in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoptimus Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I bought the Green Legioss from Toynami. It was garbage. Based on that I did not touch the Tread. Is it better? Not a junkpile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 My green legioss was quite good actually. I say WAS because it was good last time I put it back in the package. When I take it back out the hands will likely crumble for no reason just like my blue. Checked Robotech.com and there is no mention of the Shadow Beta being green lighted at last... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Blade Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I bought the Green Legioss from Toynami. It was garbage. Based on that I did not touch the Tread. Is it better? Not a junkpile? The Toynami Betas were vast improvements over the Alphas. The Beta sculpts are beautifully engineered and their construction (I can only confirm the blue one) is on par with the Cyclones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neptunesurvey Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Here are some pictures of the completed 1/5000 Ikazuchi with friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) AWESOME! Can't wait to get to mine! It's next on my build list! And YES, in responce to the Beta question. All 3 are solid toys. Vast impovements over the Alpha's. The two together are an impressive sight on a shelf! Edited June 19, 2012 by derex3592 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is the Shadow Beta confirmed as being released? We've only seen a couple preorders being listed so far but no official news of the release from HG or Toynami. Preorders for this beauty were posted multiple times in the past so has anything really changed other than a new pic of a bonus Synchrocannon being included? Guess we'll find out in a few weeks at Comic-Con... Well lets hope this is not another tease then. I agree that this toy was shown over a year ago at least. I guess i saw preorder this time and assumed..... when will I learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson13 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I'm in a difficult spot on this one. Do I buy the Shadow Beta because I only own the Shadow Alpha. But I don't want to spend $168, that's waaaaaay to much for Toynami's substandard product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Auction sites have made it so you can simply wait 2 years and almost be certain to get it new, at half price. Although -- when a great number of fans decide to go this route, companies often decide to not come out with anything else for that group of fans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I'm in a difficult spot on this one. Do I buy the Shadow Beta because I only own the Shadow Alpha. But I don't want to spend $168, that's waaaaaay to much for Toynami's substandard product. Actually of anything Toynami has ever made their Beta fighter is one very solid & balanced toy. I'd never buy one of their Alpha's again unless they were dirt cheap but the Beta I would easily own. $168.00 is a bit high though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 the Beta is super solid... the engineering is from the 80s though... no A stance, no added gimmicks or any modern feature that warrants $168. It's substandard considering what you can get for that, BUT if you have the alpha, it makes the displaying of it tons more impressive. I mean the Alpha looks like POS on its own. Especially since fighter is the only decent mode. Arms are too heavy to pose in other modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 TOYNAMI ROBOTECH BETA FIGHTER VOLUME 04 After a long wait, Toynami will finally be releasing the final Beta Fighter. This version is done in the dark scheme of the fourth Alpha Fighter and comes with a brand-new Synchro Cannon. it is limited to just 3000 pieces, comes with a numbered Certificate of Authenticity and is listed at $168.99, $31 below the MSRP. WTF??? $31 below the MSRP? I wonder if they realize that with the archaic design features of this toy, it's not even worth the $160 price tag. We were buying the other versions for $120 right after they came out, so if anything, $10 more for a gimmick synchro cannon would suffice. It's a good design, but like EXO said, the design is sculpted, not done in CAD, and uses old school materials, i.e. die cast, in some very poor places, which adds cost for no reason. I'm a pass on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I think a lot of the heft of the Beta is as much for making it balance with the overly metal Alpha. These toys needed a renewal. All plastic versions with better designs and at the same price point or less. Heck, make 'em 1/72 if they can pull it off. It's a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Blade Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I'm in a difficult spot on this one. Do I buy the Shadow Beta because I only own the Shadow Alpha. But I don't want to spend $168, that's waaaaaay to much for Toynami's substandard product. The Beta (again, referring to my blue one) is not substandard. Original retail on them was $150. It was steep, but once I saw how enormous and solid the Beta is, I didn't regret the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Gotta save for the 30th anniversary. If someone makes something more than just über rare garage kits, I wanna be there. I'm so Mospeada thirsty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 WTF??? $31 below the MSRP? I wonder if they realize that with the archaic design features of this toy, it's not even worth the $160 price tag. We were buying the other versions for $120 right after they came out, so if anything, $10 more for a gimmick synchro cannon would suffice. It's a good design, but like EXO said, the design is sculpted, not done in CAD, and uses old school materials, i.e. die cast, in some very poor places, which adds cost for no reason. I'm a pass on this. Actually, the Beta was rebuilt in CAD in Japan. That's why it's solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Actually, the Beta was rebuilt in CAD in Japan. That's why it's solid. So the Aoshima ones were, the Toynami ones weren't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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