charger69 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) Any word about what will be packed with this bird? VF-4, nothing but extra hands and stand adapters<YF-19 FP, gunpod, extra pilot and a ton of extra missiles. Both almost for the same price. Nice catch! Haha Arcadia needs a stable product strategy I guess... I can even predict Bandai's next moves on Macross franchise, but predicting Arcadia's move is impossible... They need a roadmap! Why not a product schedule spanning over 3 years for VF-0 line for example? (Bandai's DX VF-25 Renewal line started in 2011!!) Feb 2015 VF-0D Shin >>> HIT Sep 2015 VF-0A Regular Type >>> OK, I WILL GET THAT TOO Feb 2016 VF-0S (w/ Armor) >>> BIG HIT Sep 2016 VF-0A Shin Type >>> MEDIUM HIT Feb 2017 VF-0D Regular Type >>> YEAH, WHY NOT? Sep 2017 VF-0S (Reissue) >>> CRITICIAL HIT December 2017 VF-0B and VF-0C Web Exclusives >>> "I'M AN ADDICT" HIT Edited October 16, 2014 by charger69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wm cheng Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 You could add the VF-19 w/ Sound Booster to cart at HLJ and use the shipping quote for that as an estimate for the VF-0D. HLJ will only allow you to ship via EMS once the value exceeds 15000 Yen. Thanks, at just over 3,800 to ship EMS, HLJ is only 900Y cheaper than NY - not bad considering NY will save me $40-50 in customs/duties/brokerage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey-Pi-Ron Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Nice catch! Haha Arcadia needs a stable product strategy I guess... I can even predict Bandai's next moves on Macross franchise, but predicting Arcadia's move is impossible... They need a roadmap! Why not a product schedule spanning over 3 years for VF-0 line for example? (Bandai's DX VF-25 Renewal line started in 2011!!) Feb 2015 VF-0D Shin >>> HIT Sep 2015 VF-0A Regular Type >>> OK, I WILL GET THAT TOO Feb 2016 VF-0S (w/ Armor) >>> BIG HIT Sep 2016 VF-0A Shin Type >>> MEDIUM HIT Feb 2017 VF-0D Regular Type >>> YEAH, WHY NOT? Sep 2017 VF-0S (Reissue) >>> CRITICIAL HIT December 2017 VF-0B and VF-0C Web Exclusives >>> "I'M AN ADDICT" HIT Hey! I want VF-0S with ghost and fast pack! How can you forget?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Nice catch! Haha Arcadia needs a stable product strategy I guess... I can even predict Bandai's next moves on Macross franchise, but predicting Arcadia's move is impossible... They need a roadmap! Why not a product schedule spanning over 3 years for VF-0 line for example? (Bandai's DX VF-25 Renewal line started in 2011!!) Feb 2015 VF-0D Shin >>> HIT Sep 2015 VF-0A Regular Type >>> OK, I WILL GET THAT TOO Feb 2016 VF-0S (w/ Armor) >>> BIG HIT Sep 2016 VF-0A Shin Type >>> MEDIUM HIT Feb 2017 VF-0D Regular Type >>> YEAH, WHY NOT? Sep 2017 VF-0S (Reissue) >>> CRITICIAL HIT December 2017 VF-0B and VF-0C Web Exclusives >>> "I'M AN ADDICT" HIT If Arcadia just decides to release VF-0 product for the next 3 years....I think we would need to add "bankruptcy" sometime in-between those dates.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallman Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 If Arcadia just decides to release VF-0 product for the next 3 years....I think we would need to add "bankruptcy" sometime in-between those dates.... Agree with jvmacross, this is a "bankruptcy" road map LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I think the only way to see the return of sub-300 dollar Macross PT toys is to try and support this release.....a healthy infusion of profits for 3P companies dabbling in Macross product may entice more Macross releases in the future from other 3P companies.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I guess the people in the background didn't support it's release . Hopefully it kick starts the Macross 3P scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I guess the people in the background didn't support it's release . Hopefully it kick starts the Macross 3P scene. heheh....buy us...OR DIE!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsim Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Pulled the trigger on it at HLJ. At least I have a few months to save up. I still don't quite see how these are almost twice the cost of the original VF-0's that Yamato released. But I will admit that my Yamato VF-0s are among my favorite to display, I'm not quite sure why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yman1437 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 isn't AE the cheapest at thi point for USD $287? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 isn't AE the cheapest at thi point for USD $287? But AE requires payment up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 But the yen price is good right now, might be good to kick it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 the yf-19 was made to order. the 4g was made to order bc yamato didn't know how many people wanted it since it was the 4g was a specialty valks that only a niche crowd wanted. we don't know how many were on the intial numbers before they re-opened how many here have a vf-4g? i'll take a guess prob as many that have an sdf-1 dyrl not that many at 330 that was a reach. i'm sure it's in the ball park as the 19. which i'm thinking is not that many. no where near the numbers a vf-1s or vf-25F mainstream hero valk will sell. ok, skull if what i'm saying is horsecrap, i'll wager that this will be a shelf warmer. you in? . And that's the point David, that Arcadia is not going to produce as many VF-0D's as other variants (and especially not as many VF-1's). And I'm willing to bet while this isn't an made-to-order release Arcadia is going to produce enough to cover retailer orders and a small extra. There simply won't be enough left around to warm the shelf. And since I love a good bet, but don't want to lose or take a Valkyrie ( ) let's just call it a gentleman's wager and see how it turns out. in case you need to look at how many MW members voted on getting the 4g above 300 bucks: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=36074&page=1 This was also around the time that 90% of Yamato releases ended up on sale, because they'd produced so many of any one variant and pushed out new releases at an almost break neck pace. The conventional thinking at the time was that the 4G would end up on the bargain bin just like other releases - and with that, why pay suggested retail when you could just wait for the bottom to fall out and pick it up cheap. I know that's why I didn't initially buy an SDF-1. That and MW members have a tendency to talk one way and then do something completely different, so my reaction to the results of polls around here range from "LOL" to "Yeah Right". -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly!! Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 If Arcadia just decides to release VF-0 product for the next 3 years....I think we would need to add "bankruptcy" sometime in-between those dates.... An Ivanov might delay that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I sure hope Arcadia does re-issue the VF-0S & A with all the improvements they applied to the Zero-D.. But I'll only be buying one of each and not multiples of them.. more of a delta wing layout fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Magnus Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I am not buying toys for 3 months not to get this bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 And that's the point David, that Arcadia is not going to produce as many VF-0D's as other variants (and especially not as many VF-1's). And I'm willing to bet while this isn't an made-to-order release Arcadia is going to produce enough to cover retailer orders and a small extra. There simply won't be enough left around to warm the shelf. And since I love a good bet, but don't want to lose or take a Valkyrie ( ) let's just call it a gentleman's wager and see how it turns out. This was also around the time that 90% of Yamato releases ended up on sale, because they'd produced so many of any one variant and pushed out new releases at an almost break neck pace. The conventional thinking at the time was that the 4G would end up on the bargain bin just like other releases - and with that, why pay suggested retail when you could just wait for the bottom to fall out and pick it up cheap. I know that's why I didn't initially buy an SDF-1. That and MW members have a tendency to talk one way and then do something completely different, so my reaction to the results of polls around here range from "LOL" to "Yeah Right". -b. sorry but i disagree. they will be shelf warmers bc of the high price whatever print. well, i dont mind taking a valk if someone is really sure of their opinion. i got quite a few valks so no loss to me... especially if i lose and its going to a good home to a great guy i trust. so im down for putting up a cav as well. though the poll may be off by one or two ...161 votes of not willing to pay over 300 is a significant number... and people are still waiting around for bargain bin prices... nothings changed. the talk these days for the 0d is waiting and hoping for a hlj blk friday sale. i would say 80-90 will get the 0d on MW. 82 said they would buy the 4g at any price. i think that's an accurate estimate of numbers of people willing to pay over 330-350 for a valk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Good News: HLJ said the Black Friday Sale is a go! Bad News: Still cannot say for certain whether the VF-0D or other PT valks will be included Pretty sure they will though.....so be prepared!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 sorry but i disagree. they will be shelf warmers bc of the high price whatever print. well, i dont mind taking a valk if someone is really sure of their opinion. i got quite a few valks so no loss to me... especially if i lose and its going to a good home to a great guy i trust. so im down for putting up a cav as well. though the poll may be off by one or two ...161 votes of not willing to pay over 300 is a significant number... and people are still waiting around for bargain bin prices... nothings changed. the talk these days for the 0d is waiting and hoping for a hlj blk friday sale. i would say 80-90 will get the 0d on MW. 82 said they would buy the 4g at any price. i think that's an accurate estimate of numbers of people willing to pay over 330-350 for a valk. It's all good, I'm still not going to take your Valkyries, buy one or two some day in the future, sure. No doubt people want a deal (you and I counted among them) but waiting for a larger discount on pre-order isn't the same as willing to bet (no pun intended) that the VF-0D will be sitting around months after release like the 30th Anniversary VF-1J. The Fire VF-19 will probably warm shelves but that's because you can still find first releases on the cheap. Just look at the often maligned YF-19, nowhere to be found on sale or warming the shelf the 0D will absolutely follow that same pattern of being gone immediately or very soon after release (made to order based on retailer volume, not per person). The only way I can see it not selling out is if Arcadia produces way more than what retailers have ordered and there's nothing to suggest that they will. Not going to touch the poll aspect except to say that it's way too unscientific to follow and anecdotally people tend to say one thing and then act another. Besides what about the Japanese fans that account for the bulk of the business, they're not here to vote. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Good News: HLJ said the Black Friday Sale is a go! Bad News: Still cannot say for certain whether the VF-0D or other PT valks will be included Pretty sure they will though.....so be prepared!!! wonder if black friday is still in the preorder period for this? could order one then and cancel the preorders people have already made. that and hlj has teh cheapest ems shipping i've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 wonder if black friday is still in the preorder period for this? could order one then and cancel the preorders people have already made. that and hlj has teh cheapest ems shipping i've seen. That is the same thing that happened with the YF-19 last year....pre-orders for it were still open when the Black Friday sale hit......thus why several folks pre-ordered again and dumped their higher-priced YF-19 pre-orders.... The Black Friday sale price did not automatically adjust the price of existing pre-orders in your cart...thus why you need to pre-order again and dump the older higher-priced stuff.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) That is the same thing that happened with the YF-19 last year....pre-orders for it were still open when the Black Friday sale hit......thus why several folks pre-ordered again and dumped their higher-priced YF-19 pre-orders.... The Black Friday sale price did not automatically adjust the price of existing pre-orders in your cart...thus why you need to pre-order again and dump the older higher-priced stuff.... exactly *well replace existing pre-orders in your cart with replace existing pre-orders in your account -b. Edited October 17, 2014 by Kanedas Bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 wonder if black friday is still in the preorder period for this? could order one then and cancel the preorders people have already made. that and hlj has teh cheapest ems shipping i've seen. What's the preorder period for this VF-0D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 What's the preorder period for this VF-0D? Probably through January 2015. Thankfully it's Arcadia not Bandai! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdr Fokker Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Just look at the often maligned YF-19, nowhere to be found on sale or warming the shelf the 0D will absolutely follow that same pattern of being gone immediately or very soon after release (made to order based on retailer volume, not per person). And unlike the YF-19, there is no previous release of the 0D. I was one who passed on the Arcadia YF-19 because I felt that the improvements didn't justify the expense, already having a Yamato 1/60 YF-19 that I felt was "good enough". That can't be said here, as there is no pre-existing 0D at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Perhaps we need to define what makes a shelf-warmer....when it comes to Macross toys...I'd say a shelf-warmer is anything that manages to linger long enough to receive a steep discount (Black Friday sales not included!)....in other words, practically every Macross toy ever made by Yamato! With that said, I do not think the VF-0D will achieve that undignified status....and not because it does not deserve that status....but because these things are not being produced in the same numbers anymore thus minimizing the opportunity for it to become a shelf-warmer....now a days...it has to be almost universally reviled to achieve the shelf-warmer status....Anniversario anyone?? (up next, VF-19 Goldenrod edition?) If the VF-0D was being released by Yamato....then it'd be keeping the shelves toasty well into Christmas 2015!!!.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Sadly just one right now. Wish I could swing 4 of them.... Lets see, 31,835 x 4 = 127,340 yen = $1,192.49 WHOLLY HELL....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 And unlike the YF-19, there is no previous release of the 0D. I was one who passed on the Arcadia YF-19 because I felt that the improvements didn't justify the expense, already having a Yamato 1/60 YF-19 that I felt was "good enough". That can't be said here, as there is no pre-existing 0D at all. Perhaps we need to define what makes a shelf-warmer....when it comes to Macross toys...I'd say a shelf-warmer is anything that manages to linger long enough to receive a steep discount (Black Friday sales not included!)....in other words, practically every Macross toy ever made by Yamato! With that said, I do not think the VF-0D will achieve that undignified status....and not because it does not deserve that status....but because these things are not being produced in the same numbers anymore thus minimizing the opportunity for it to become a shelf-warmer....now a days...it has to be almost universally reviled to achieve the shelf-warmer status....Anniversario anyone?? (up next, VF-19 Goldenrod edition?) If the VF-0D was being released by Yamato....then it'd be keeping the shelves toasty well into Christmas 2015!!!.... Agreed * 2. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Touching on an earlier topic, when I watch Macross Zero my impression was that the 0D was a two man fighter and in no way a trainer. Shin was a capable pilot on combat patrol. Most definitely think the 0D is an homage to the F-14 tomcat. Edited October 18, 2014 by Spiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Touching on an earlier topic, when I watch Macross Zero my impression was that the 0D was a two man fighter and in no way a trainer. Shin was a capable pilot on combat patrol. Most definitely think the 0D is an homage to the F-15 F-14 tomcat. Fixed it for you. Or did you mean F-15 Eagle? To me it looks more like the Chinese J-20. On second thought, maybe not. I keep on thinking Firefox when I see this for some reason. Edited October 18, 2014 by wmkjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The J-20 didn't even exist when Zero came out, so it's certainly not based on it. Considering how many times Kawamori has referenced CFT-equipped F-15's (it's where the term FAST pack comes from) and the F-16XL, they are the most likely inspirations for a "modified" VF-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The modified-delta of the F-15 sure do look nice and pretty, but I like to think Kawamori just delta-winged the F-14 to come up with the 0D. That, and/or he's quite fond of the ancient the F7U. Plus, all the Zero (0S/0A/0D) in the anime were carrier-based, so it's gotta be a F-14 inspired instead of F-15 inspired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchizophrenicMC Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It's an amalgamation of many planes. The F-14D influences are obviously there, the delta wings are inspired by the F-16XL, the canards are right off of the F-15S/MTD, the canted tails and wing tips look like a parked F/A-18. It's a bunch of jets. It's not just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) I didn't say it was based on it, just thought the front canards and wings reminds me of the J-20 so that's why I wrote it. F-15 S/MTD and F-16XL inspiration would be cool to see. Was that Shin doing a Fly by above my post? . BTW, apologies in advance if someone answered this already but does anyone knows what is the type of weapons pod included with the VF-0D? Edited October 18, 2014 by wmkjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Hell I'm sure there was the inspiration of basically updating the VF-1! In a lot of ways the zeros are like a more modern kawamori designed Valkyrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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