geepogi Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 this has been bugging me for quite some time. are the pilots facing down when in battroid mode? sorry for the newbie question. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 are the pilots facing down when in battroid mode? In the anime, no. In the toys? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geepogi Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 thanks bro. was it shown in an episode or there are mechanical drawings showing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 thanks bro. was it shown in an episode or there are mechanical drawings showing it? In SDFM TV we get an inside view of Hikaru's 1D - and the chair(s) even move out when he's standing outside of Minmey's house. He's clearly sitting forward. Only the 1/60 VF-Zeros and the 1/60 YF-21 have the chair swivel feature built into them. In fact, the YF-21 has a kind of "auto-transformation" feature for it which is quite cool. Doing it with the VF-1s is unpractical given their very smal size apparently. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXTL Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 More pics of the VF-1S Max plus VF-1D at Hobby Complex 06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 More pics of the VF-1S Max plus VF-1D at Hobby Complex 06 That VF-1D Trainer BATTROID looks really nice (still, very much dislike the fighter mode). VF-1S Max FIGHTER looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Something is different with the 1D... they've concealed the fuselage pushing the neck way up so there is more there than a simple repaint and different cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Something is different with the 1D... they've concealed the fuselage pushing the neck way up so there is more there than a simple repaint and different cockpit. The -1D doesn't have a "dip" in the chest-plate where the back panel is like the single-seat VF-1s do. VF-1A VF-1D (notice it's "straight" across the top of the chest) This effectively conceals the "proud fuselage" in the neck of the normal models. Otherwise, the head would have been too sunken into the chest like it is on the original 1/60 Also, like it or not, the fighter is pretty accurate to the lineart: The nose is just a little stubby and the canopy too wide (which is why the original 1/60 is super-close in fighter mode), but otherwise it's pretty close. Vostok 7 Edited December 22, 2008 by Vostok 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaD3k Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) A new fuselage mold! =D Looks much longer and more accurate to the VF-1D, as compared to the earlier prototype shots (which were a bit more round, thus similar to the Elintseeker and Ostrich). Awesome! Edited December 22, 2008 by OmegaD3k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Looking at that last picture I have doubts a heatsheild would be even possible with the canopy that large. I'd say Yamato has done a pretty damn fine job on the 1D given that they have to deal with reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hmm... you know - I think I'm going to skip the 1S Max. I'm an SDFM TV fan and haven't really watched DYRL close enough and don't find myself longing for one. In fact - I would love it if there was a TV Max 1A with Zendradi Officer's coat so I could dress up his Gerwalk mode As for the 1D - beautiful. Lovely. Want Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 You know one thing I just noticed looking over the Max-1S... Is it just me or is the seat WAY too far forward? It looks like poor Max' head is in the windscreen! According to the lineart the seat should be more in line with the canopy's cross bar. The -1D is more accurate with the cockpit in that respects (wonder if the new 2seater friendliness is the reason). Vostok 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If you're right - then hopefully it's because we'll be getting a "Virgin Road" Max 1A with wedding dress Milia Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) If you're right - then hopefully it's because we'll be getting a "Virgin Road" Max 1A with wedding dress Milia Pete That would be nice Hopefully it also means we get the VT-1 Super Ostrich, VE-1 ELINTseeker (those two would require a minor resculpt of the nose, cockpit and canopy) and VFER-1 Funny Chinese (which is just a VF-1D with similar gear to the ELINTseeker, just simpler). I'd buy each and every one of those. Since they obviously designed the new 1/60 to be two seater friendly, I can only hope that they milk it for all it's worth, considering there aren't THAT many two seater VF-1s. Vostok 7 Edited December 22, 2008 by Vostok 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Actually - what would be the crowning glory of the VF-1 1/60 v.2 would be if Yamato released the VF-1S Minmey Gaurd. JUST DO IT YAMATO And then give us the Minmey Gaurd Brigade with a 1/60 Monster (Minmey Gaurd color scheme/decos) and Destroids (also Minmey Gaurd)... And while I'm on the subject of fantasy wish list... 1/60 Cats Eye please With lovely Misa, and two pilots: one alive and then an optional "cracked canopy" with slouched over dead pilot Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The crowning glory would be to fix the shoulders and make them out of POM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 A new fuselage mold! =D Looks much longer and more accurate to the VF-1D, as compared to the earlier prototype shots (which were a bit more round, thus similar to the Elintseeker and Ostrich). Awesome! I want some of the crack you're smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Given how unstable the Miriya Quad type is when posing her, I'm going to keep her away from Max 1S. Don't want her falling on him, and him falling off the shelf or something. I have nightmares about the Quid Rau keeling over and knocking everything down... Either that, or I'll have to get kinky and just have Max tie her up or something... Pete Ahh come on Pete, use flexi stands! Even without them she stans fine. I'm gonna do some serious displays with Millia Q-Rau and Max's no.1 valk. WO0 HOO! Max 1S picks!!! Thanks for the early christmas prezzies! And i tell ya what, if that weathered Roy 1S is easy to get, i'll be getting that one as well. Edited December 22, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I am totally stoked on the VF-1D! Still. And more. And I am not smoking crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWN013 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I don't have any interest in the Max 1S either, but I'm glad they released it. It's a good sign. Since it was never done as a 1/48, hopefully this means they're gonna release more they didn't (really) do as 1/48s, like the Max and Kakizaki TV 1As. And the 1D still looks stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinJester Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The -1D doesn't have a "dip" in the chest-plate where the back panel is like the single-seat VF-1s do. <snip> VF-1D (notice it's "straight" across the top of the chest) This effectively conceals the "proud fuselage" in the neck of the normal models. Otherwise, the head would have been too sunken into the chest like it is on the original 1/60 Maybe this is what was meant by "designed from the beginning to accomodate two seaters" instead of the detachable nosecone; the high head in battroid means that while it sticks out a bit on the regular versions, it's at just the right height for a straight line chestpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The VF-1D shown at Hobby Complex does not have the grey shoulder hinges shown in the promo ads, and now has the TV hands. Hmmm...if the Yamato page for it updates to include POM in the materials list, I think we can pretty much say that the only POM on the VF-1 toys(not the FAST packs which do have POM either on the parts or missles) is on the TV style hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Maybe this is what was meant by "designed from the beginning to accomodate two seaters" instead of the detachable nosecone; the high head in battroid means that while it sticks out a bit on the regular versions, it's at just the right height for a straight line chestpiece. That's what I'm thinking, which is why I hope they make EVERY two seater VF-1 that was out there, and maybe even some non-canon color schemes. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to sacrifice some accuracy in the one seaters just to cater to the 3 or 4 versions of two seaters possible (if sticking strictly to canon, not including the one -1D repaint). I wonder if it's time to give up hope for a VF-0D/VF-0B yet Vostok 7 Edited December 22, 2008 by Vostok 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I will admit that it looks better in that picture, BUT, still not what I was hoping for. After looking at the 1D in the picture and compairing it to the Max picture is the Canopy really any longer? I'm not complaining just I really don't think it is. It has been reshaped but I don't think it's longer. The rear edge that slopes up to the vertical back edge looks like it is more steep and the "roll bar" is obviously more forward and vertical but other than that, it doesn't look like it is longer. Cool for those that like it alot, I kinda do too, but I'm curious what you all think. Not bashing, just trying to look at it objectively and would like some objective opinions. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I hope they change the material used in the shoulders first. THEN we can speculate about an Elint or Super Ostirch. Let's hope Graham has gotten back into contact with Yamato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Honestly I like the way the VF-1D toy currently looks. Fix the shoulders and I will be content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 ... is the Canopy really any longer? I'm not complaining just I really don't think it is. It has been reshaped but I don't think it's longer. The rear edge that slopes up to the vertical back edge looks like it is more steep and the "roll bar" is obviously more forward and vertical but other than that, it doesn't look like it is longer. Chris Couldn't have said it better!!! Your post sums up what they did. Those little changes make it look longer. I like it, I'll get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Maybe this is what was meant by "designed from the beginning to accomodate two seaters" instead of the detachable nosecone; the high head in battroid means that while it sticks out a bit on the regular versions, it's at just the right height for a straight line chestpiece. Nope. Actually, if you think about it, making the fuselage stick up so high in battroid makes it much harder to do a VF-1D correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 maybe i will get the Hikaru 1S....If they're doing max too, then Kakizaki may follow and Id have a full squad of 1S's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 A Kakizaki 1S? You must be thinking of a custom 'cause that ain't ever gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinJester Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Nope. Actually, if you think about it, making the fuselage stick up so high in battroid makes it much harder to do a VF-1D correctly. Well, then I fail to see how they've managed to make the design any more conducive to two-seaters than previous versions, since they haven't taken advantage of the detachable and movable nose to make the canopy any longer. <shrug> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javabean Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Check out this new VF-1D pics with pilots & markings. Thought I find the nose shape now quite different fm previous pics. Credits to SGcollect forum & Hobbystock blog. http://www.sgcollect.com/forum/index.php?s...0&start=120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXTL Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) The same pics of the 1D were already posted a couple of pages back on this thread, together with the 1S Max. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...st&p=694392 More pics of the VF-1S Max plus VF-1D at Hobby Complex 06 Edited December 23, 2008 by IXTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Check out this new VF-1D pics with pilots & markings. Thought I find the nose shape now quite different fm previous pics. Credits to SGcollect forum & Hobbystock blog. http://www.sgcollect.com/forum/index.php?s...0&start=120 The nose shape isn't different, we are just seeing it from a different angle is all. Yamato seems to love that above 3/4 view as their first pic for just about every release and it's probably the worst angle IMO for the 1/60 v2 and the 1/48 because it really exagerates the wide looking canopies. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Well, then I fail to see how they've managed to make the design any more conducive to two-seaters than previous versions, since they haven't taken advantage of the detachable and movable nose to make the canopy any longer. <shrug>They haven't. The slide-up nose cone is a complete fiasco, because it makes battroid look wrong, and it makes a correct VF-1D impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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