Chronocidal Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) Maybe they should have done a smart thing, and worked on releasing something people have already expressed interest in, and hasn't already proven to be a slow seller in the past 15 years. I really just want them to release the HMR version and watch it utterly destroy the DX sales.. Edited March 27 by Chronocidal Quote
davidwhangchoi Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, treatment said: Yeah. Down to 17,500y if you're a jp-resident. https://twitter.com/Shota_FASTARC/status/2037329473365004560 Bandai's getting quite the negatives from fans on tweeter and even in amz-jp customer-reviews... Good, Bandai deserves the negative opinions on a public platform for a lazy effort. Arcadia, pls come back from the dead (or from near death) and save us. Make a real YF-21 version 2... I want that VF-5000G (though it's going to cost astronomically high) Quote
Froy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 hours ago, treatment said: Yeah. Down to 17,500y if you're a jp-resident. https://twitter.com/Shota_FASTARC/status/2037329473365004560 Bandai's getting quite the negatives from fans on tweeter and even in amz-jp customer-reviews... /clarkson's oh no! anyway... One now at mandarake for 17k yen. Quote
scand Posted March 27 Posted March 27 11 hours ago, rsvictor1976 said: With all the hate this toy is getting, I wonder if the U.S. stores like BBTS or Amazon will still try to sell it at MSRP. Just checked my Amazon pre-order and it was still at $300 US. I canceled it, and will pick it up at a discount later. Quote
Axelay Posted March 27 Posted March 27 9 hours ago, davidwhangchoi said: Good, Bandai deserves the negative opinions on a public platform for a lazy effort. Arcadia, pls come back from the dead (or from near death) and save us. Make a real YF-21 version 2... I want that VF-5000G (though it's going to cost astronomically high) Every single sentence in this post is quoted for intense levels of truth. I'm willing at a moment's notice to get in on that Star Mirage. Quote
treatment Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 16 hours ago, Chronocidal said: Maybe they should have done a smart thing, and worked on releasing something people have already expressed interest in, and hasn't already proven to be a slow seller in the past 15 years. I really just want them to release the HMR version and watch it utterly destroy the DX sales.. well, seems Bandai had allocated and spent much budget developing a Metal Build Hatsune Miku than a proper DX VF-17S... https://tamashiiweb.com/item/15777/ Bandai just gotta Bandai... Edited March 27 by treatment Quote
Chronocidal Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I mean, I'd bet that probably sold a whole lot better than the 17S, so you can't really say they wasted the budget to make it. Quote
treatment Posted March 27 Posted March 27 17 minutes ago, Chronocidal said: I mean, I'd bet that probably sold a whole lot better than the 17S, so you can't really say they wasted the budget to make it. At this point, everything else will have sold and are selling better than this DX-17S... 😂 Quote
ArchieNov Posted March 28 Posted March 28 14 hours ago, Wewyllenium said: What's the support bar? You know... after watching parts of this video, I actually don't feel as bad about receiving my preorder when it arrives. The plane mode looks okay to me. And since most of my stuff is displayed in fighter mode anyway, it won't look ugly among them. Quote
Shawn Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Maybe someone could create a 3-d printed leg-only GBP clam-shell type wrap option for this to display in G/B mode. With the lack of tampo, it is just a color match issue. POC it and post it on the Bandai twitter page. Bandai could then make one themselves for 5000 yen, market it as the Anime Enhanced release or some nonsense. When Graham lets go a VF-17 I know there is trouble! Quote
recon Posted March 29 Posted March 29 15 hours ago, Shawn said: Maybe someone could create a 3-d printed leg-only GBP clam-shell type wrap option for this to display in G/B mode. With the lack of tampo, it is just a color match issue. POC it and post it on the Bandai twitter page. Bandai could then make one themselves for 5000 yen, market it as the Anime Enhanced release or some nonsense. When Graham lets go a VF-17 I know there is trouble! They should get graham in as one of the reviewers for M7 line, like what yamato did in the past. If it fails his scrutiny, then they should refine the design Oh well thats wishful thinking on my part Quote
recon Posted March 29 Posted March 29 On 3/27/2026 at 11:52 PM, Axelay said: Every single sentence in this post is quoted for intense levels of truth. I'm willing at a moment's notice to get in on that Star Mirage. At the rate arcadia is moving, i kinda doubt so thus we are stuck with being bandaied Quote
MKT Posted March 29 Posted March 29 On 3/28/2026 at 4:46 AM, treatment said: well, seems Bandai had allocated and spent much budget developing a Metal Build Hatsune Miku than a proper DX VF-17S... https://tamashiiweb.com/item/15777/ Bandai just gotta Bandai... I am an occasional Miku fan having a few of her figures over the years. But this kinda creeps me a bit. AI singer now in a killer bot-body. Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) Don't think anyone asked for the Miku, and it barely even looks like her, not to mention it doesn't even look good as its own doll/figure tbh. We are a decade past the age of vocaloid hype too... Idk if there is even a target audience for that thing. I'm sure diehard worshippers that buy every single piece of merch ever made would buy it, but I don't think many are like that... Wouldn't be surprised if it sold worse than the VF-17S Edited March 29 by PointBlankSniper Quote
Duymon Posted Sunday at 11:41 PM Posted Sunday at 11:41 PM I'm so bummed out over the VF-17S I paid full price for at HLJ that I went back into modern airplane modelling and bought a 1/48 Tamiya F-14D and.... omg it's nice to support a company that cares about its customers Quote
505thAirborne Posted Monday at 01:30 AM Posted Monday at 01:30 AM For those not liking this new Bandai creation, the old 1/65 DX version of the VF-17D is for sale on Mandarake, two available. Bandai 1/65 scale DX Stealth Valkyrie VF17D | Mandarake Online Shop Quote
Pontus Posted Monday at 03:58 PM Posted Monday at 03:58 PM 14 hours ago, 505thAirborne said: For those not liking this new Bandai creation, the old 1/65 DX version of the VF-17D is for sale on Mandarake, two available. Bandai 1/65 scale DX Stealth Valkyrie VF17D | Mandarake Online Shop I've considered this several times too, but every time I do, I look at it and... it's just SO. DANG. CHONKY. And unrefined, looks too much like a child's toy. I don't mind the new DX and will probably pick one up when it sells for under $200, so thank you to all you picky collectors that are going to make it super cheap for me! Quote
Froy Posted Monday at 04:55 PM Posted Monday at 04:55 PM 54 minutes ago, Pontus said: I've considered this several times too, but every time I do, I look at it and... it's just SO. DANG. CHONKY. And unrefined, looks too much like a child's toy. I don't mind the new DX and will probably pick one up when it sells for under $200, so thank you to all you picky collectors that are going to make it super cheap for me! It is already going for like 110 usd. I totally see it going like 10 or 20 usd lower seeing how poorly the VF-19 is doing supposedly being one of the most popular valks in Japan Quote
treatment Posted Monday at 06:49 PM Posted Monday at 06:49 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Froy said: It is already going for like 110 usd. I totally see it going like 10 or 20 usd lower seeing how poorly the VF-19 is doing supposedly being one of the most popular valks in Japan Yet amz-jp is scalping higher shipping-fees for it than their own YF-21 offering if you're importing to the US, at least: frickin' bizarro. at any rate, Hacchaka review is up: https://twitter.com/hacchaka999/status/2038561092298068168 https://hacchaka.net/archives/52131263.html Edited Monday at 06:54 PM by treatment Quote
recon Posted Monday at 07:58 PM Posted Monday at 07:58 PM 1 hour ago, treatment said: Yet amz-jp is scalping higher shipping-fees for it than their own YF-21 offering if you're importing to the US, at least: frickin' bizarro. at any rate, Hacchaka review is up: https://twitter.com/hacchaka999/status/2038561092298068168 https://hacchaka.net/archives/52131263.html Looking at this pix, really makes me wonder if bandai opted for a slick and streamline profile for the VF-17S, why didnt they adopt the same approach the VF-19. At least they would have complimented each other Quote
treatment Posted Monday at 08:11 PM Posted Monday at 08:11 PM btw, it's now been discounted to 16,800y new with free delivery, if you're a JP-resident that is: https://twitter.com/Ragu_Ponyo/status/2038567205600891107 Quote
Duymon Posted Tuesday at 04:24 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:24 AM Hey guys who would have guess that Bandai would revive Yamato level discounts, except that Yamato's VF-17 was actually good Quote
Chronocidal Posted Tuesday at 04:41 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:41 AM (edited) If anything, Bandai should've been smart enough to look at Yamato's sales history, and tried to avoid their mistakes. I don't think anything past the initial Fire Valk release was that much of a hot seller, and I think most of their Macross 7 lineup eventually went on clearance. They were just too expensive for Yamato to develop and produce effectively. Honestly? Bandai may have made the right move financially by not investing in the changes to make a proper VF-17 mold, but we'll never really know if the sales would have been better if it had been good, because Bandai is relegated to playing second fiddle to Yamato for every release. Most of the people who really really wanted those valks in 1/60 already scratched that itch, and that includes the international market. I do think the DX Fire Valk is a slight improvement over the Yamato in fighter mode, but I think the market performance is just putting on broad display that it's not enough of an improvement to garner any real attention. Bandai is just 15 years too late, and they're not doing anything differently enough to stand out from what people already have. They should have stuck with what they had going for them, and finished the 1/48 DX VF-1 line. Even without being able to officially sell them internationally, they would have had a much larger demand, and sold out easily, instead of their fleet of Nightmare Minuses headed to the clearance bin. Yeah, I'm gonna just call it that.. it's a Nightmare Minus. Edited Tuesday at 04:45 AM by Chronocidal Quote
Duymon Posted Tuesday at 12:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:30 PM what gets me is the same effort that went into making a new head sculpt and nose could have gone into new wings and head for the VF-19S or the VF-22 that would have been better than this abomination of a VF-17S. Hopefully they do a parts former 1/100 VF-17 as the team working on those has been solid Quote
jenius Posted Tuesday at 01:44 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:44 PM I really don't think a VF-22 from that YF-21 would be any better and don't think it would have been better received. That mold is another dud. Bandai is now in the unfortunate space of having a license with only one good mold of four potential toys, making a VF-11 toy less likely. Still, Bandai has ignored fan sentiment and plowed forward in the past so... Fingers crossed? Quote
treatment Posted Wednesday at 04:40 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:40 AM (edited) As of this posting, if you live in mainland japan, you can now get this DX with free delivery at 15,400y... However, most of us here are not mainland jp residents... Edited Wednesday at 04:44 AM by treatment Quote
BlueMax Posted Wednesday at 10:34 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:34 AM (edited) 🤣 The parting remarks from the review above: "I originally wanted to do a reverse transformmation video, but after transforming it back to Fighter, I must say it is simply 10 times more torturous! After the transformation, I simply have no wish to transform it a 2nd time, hence I decided not to film it. If you guys want to know what kind of feeling this is, I highly recommend getting one to experience it for yourselves (No way I should suffer alone in this)." Edited Wednesday at 11:19 AM by BlueMax Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted Wednesday at 10:59 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:59 AM Gotta wonder if people bought it on Amazon just to review bomb it. There's no way people couldn't tell what the proportions were, from just the promo pics. Quote
Chronocidal Posted Wednesday at 12:40 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:40 PM You know the worst part about that? The reverse transformation back to fighter is where the freakin' thing will explode if you follow the instructions, because Bandai never realized the legs don't work the same way going both directions. Following the instructions is the fastest way to make sure your knee joints turn into very expensive shrapnel. Quote
PointBlankSniper Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM Well, so far, the revival is sturdy enough that I can revert those legs by prodding and feeling around without triggering an explodium chain reaction. Also, I think the explodium was limited to the cannon fodder's glitter packed black plastic not on the EX. If the granite speckle on these new joints are more homogeneous than they look, it should be fine. Quote
jenius Posted Wednesday at 05:22 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:22 PM The cannon fodder added weak plastic to a bad design but the bad design could still lead to breaks if anyone forced it... Most of us used to handling these things will be able to avoid it... Still, stupid design. Quote
Chronocidal Posted Wednesday at 08:01 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:01 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, PointBlankSniper said: Well, so far, the revival is sturdy enough that I can revert those legs by prodding and feeling around without triggering an explodium chain reaction. Also, I think the explodium was limited to the cannon fodder's glitter packed black plastic not on the EX. If the granite speckle on these new joints are more homogeneous than they look, it should be fine. The obsidian plastic was just the icing on the cake (of the "let them eat cake" variety). The mechanism in the knees does not work the same in both directions when twisting the lower legs. The knee has to be completely straight to do that safely, or you're asking for the knee mechanism to shear off. The fact that you can twist it from fighter to gerwalk with the knee bent is because the mechanism is sloppy, but doing the same in reverse can destroy it. Sorry to be a broken record, but I habitually repost this warning in any new 171 derivative thread to make sure new buyers catch it. Edited Wednesday at 08:08 PM by Chronocidal Quote
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