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On 8/15/2025 at 5:25 AM, Magnus said:

I bought one of these because I was very curious and just got it in a few days ago: 

Pros:

-very solid, high-quality feel to the materials (mostly). 

-great poseability in Battroid mode

-some interesting design choices that make the figure feel dynamic

 

Cons: 

-Barely anything tabs together in Gerwalk or fighter mode, and what does uses very shallow, tiny tabs that will likely break after time

-Impossible to get it aligned in fighter mode, even after finagling and massaging it for nearly an hour

-Fake chest inserts for Battroid, and also a fake upper/shoulder insert.  I hate parts-forming, so this was annoying.  Head just floats, doesn't peg to anything without the insert

-Floating waist, die cast hips don't connect to the nose cone

-Broke off one of the antennae when trying to adjust the legs in fighter mode, the head doesn't really feel like it sits anywhere properly in any mode

-Standard fist that can fold into the arm doesn't have a hole for the rifle, so parts-swapping is necessary when not in fighter-mode

 

Honestly if this thing was $100 less, i'd be ok with it, but as it stands it isn't quite as solid and "toyetic" as I was hoping for.

I don't understand how anyone involved on it's initial concept right to the engineering in CAD didn't say "Hey, this whole thing is NOT a good idea. Lets write it off."

 

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I didn't pre-order one because I assumed it would become vaporware when they came to their senses... Now I'll wait for clearance sales just to grab one for anymoon.

Posted
7 hours ago, Raikkonen said:

I don't understand how anyone involved on it's initial concept right to the engineering in CAD didn't say "Hey, this whole thing is NOT a good idea. Lets write it off."

 

The idea was a slam dunk right from the first drug-induced pitch meeting....

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4 hours ago, jenius said:

I didn't pre-order one because I assumed it would become vaporware when they came to their senses... Now I'll wait for clearance sales just to grab one for anymoon.

I figured it might be vaporware until I realized that it was robotech, then remembered that they don’t know how to turn back from horrible mistakes and they will put a funky design or funky colored toy in hand no  matter how many complaints they get. Although they might not do a follow up if the cash ain’t there for the first release 

Posted
1 hour ago, Big s said:

I figured it might be vaporware until I realized that it was robotech, then remembered that they don’t know how to turn back from horrible mistakes and they will put a funky design or funky colored toy in hand no  matter how many complaints they get. Although they might not do a follow up if the cash ain’t there for the first release 

Still haven't learnt since the 80s... 

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2 hours ago, Big s said:

I figured it might be vaporware until I realized that it was robotech, then remembered that they don’t know how to turn back from horrible mistakes and they will put a funky design or funky colored toy in hand no  matter how many complaints they get. Although they might not do a follow up if the cash ain’t there for the first release 

Much like Shadow Chronicles...

  • 2 weeks later...
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I mostly skipped through here and there, but there are some bizarre engineering choices. One that really stands out is how the hips don't even secure to the nosecone in Battroid. 

Posted
2 hours ago, danth said:

The terrible gaps, the bad proportions, the wrongness of the legs and shoulders...it might be the perfect Robotech toy!

The new Robowreck icon

Posted
2 hours ago, danth said:

The terrible gaps, the bad proportions, the wrongness of the legs and shoulders...it might be the perfect Robotech toy!

 

also, must have backwards missiles...

 

🤣

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I know that it is not the sleek and elegant profile that we expect of a Kawamori creation, but looking at the above video and seeing all of the various things with it, it appears as if it were made for maximum playability and not design sketch accuracy.  I could see playing the hell out of this thing, whooshing it around my living room and all of the diecast core parts will mean that I don't have to worry about it disintegrating like a popcorn fart in church.  I am warily optimistic and will hopefully be able to secure one for myself, finances willing.

Twich

Posted
4 minutes ago, twich said:

I don't have to worry about it disintegrating like a popcorn fart in church. 

I didn’t know people ate popcorn at church. I never go, so I guess I wouldn’t know

Posted
5 minutes ago, twich said:

I know that it is not the sleek and elegant profile that we expect of a Kawamori creation, but looking at the above video and seeing all of the various things with it, it appears as if it were made for maximum playability and not design sketch accuracy.  I could see playing the hell out of this thing, whooshing it around my living room and all of the diecast core parts will mean that I don't have to worry about it disintegrating like a popcorn fart in church.  I am warily optimistic and will hopefully be able to secure one for myself, finances willing.

Twich

I'll have to experience one in hand to know, but the chunkiness screamed 1/55 playability or better. If it meets or exceeds that, then that's its selling point; not its appearance.

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3 hours ago, twich said:

I know that it is not the sleek and elegant profile that we expect of a Kawamori creation, but looking at the above video and seeing all of the various things with it, it appears as if it were made for maximum playability and not design sketch accuracy.  I could see playing the hell out of this thing, whooshing it around my living room and all of the diecast core parts will mean that I don't have to worry about it disintegrating like a popcorn fart in church.  I am warily optimistic and will hopefully be able to secure one for myself, finances willing.

Twich

Looking at the connectors for the shoulders and legs (especially in Gerwalk and  Batroid modes), I wouldn't count on it retaining much stability.

Exhibit A:

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Try to "woosh" that around your room, and it's going to start spewing more parts than a Deep South pickup truck after Junior dun' tried to fit'er with' nitrous oxide for that "extra special punch"!  O.o

Posted
7 hours ago, twich said:

I know that it is not the sleek and elegant profile that we expect of a Kawamori creation...

Twich

If we want, we could imagine this as a heavily modified/updated version of the VF-1 series that is still active into the Frontier era. These were still used as trainers, but I can see this as a still viable combat version.

Posted

I appreciate a fresh set of eyes on this classic design, and as I watched that video it did sort of break my mind thinking 'the parts aren't supposed to do that' lol
I sort of view it like a Mimic...where it looks human, but suddenly opens its mouth at the base of its neck to eat you.

If I find one cheap enough I'll bite just for the weirdness of it. I feel they looked at the market full of all the other 'screen accurate' valks and made their own market. Really can't wait to see their interpretation of the Fast Packs.
And they kept the 'Keep Clean', love it.

My only real gripe is the landing gear length. It reminds me of the original Yamato 1/60 V1 prototypes from 2001. I thought that was the shortest landing gear I'd ever seen in a valk until now. But at least they made it white!! (hint hint Bandai)

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I think my biggest gripe with the entire design is just what insane nonsense they made the lower legs into.  Like... just why did they make them do that?  And is it even necessary, or are they just really fond of showing off how many moving parts the legs have?

Posted
3 hours ago, Shawn said:

But at least they made it white!! (hint hint Bandai)

Why would it be white? It usually looks more gray in the show. I really didn’t get a great look at them in the movie version though.

8 hours ago, Thom said:

If we want, we could imagine this as a heavily modified/updated version of the VF-1 series that is still active into the Frontier era. These were still used as trainers, but I can see this as a still viable combat version.

i was thinking more like a few junkers got parts together from things in the Macross 2 universe and kinda slapped things together 

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2 hours ago, Big s said:

Why would it be white? It usually looks more gray in the show. I really didn’t get a great look at them in the movie version though.

i was thinking more like a few junkers got parts together from things in the Macross 2 universe and kinda slapped things together 

More like smeared things together...

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Yet to see one of these things in the wild in the toy and hobby shops we have here in HK. If I did see it, I'd probably pick one up on impulse, just for shits n giggles.

But if I did get one, it would remain in Battroid mode forever. 😅

  • 1 month later...
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51 minutes ago, danth said:

A picture worth a thousand words:

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Now, I am no toy collector so please take this for an ignorant statement if it comes across as one... but that looks kind of... awful?

I can understand sacrificing screen-accurate proportions to make a toy's transformation work but this looks like they didn't even try.

Posted

They should have called it a VF-1XS or something and made up their own side history of it being an experimental line of "veritechs". How much does it cost to make a comic book? They could have included a comic with each release with a post rain of death story arch as new mechs were being developed.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

awful?

That is definitely one of the thousand words that came to my mind. Or maybe it was just that one word, a thousand times. 

Posted
4 hours ago, danth said:

A picture worth a thousand words:

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It may be worth a thousand words, but they can all be summed up with EWWWW!

looks like the legs are just falling off the sides 

Posted
4 hours ago, jenius said:

They should have called it a VF-1XS or something and made up their own side history of it being an experimental line of "veritechs". How much does it cost to make a comic book? They could have included a comic with each release with a post rain of death story arch as new mechs were being developed.

If they changed the nose they could've pretended it's the one from that godawful Robotech Remix comic.

Y'know, the one Titan comics based off stolen Macross-inspired fan art?

I doubt anyone involved is willing to spend the money to make a new comic.  The last licensee didn't fare so well.

 

4 hours ago, danth said:

That is definitely one of the thousand words that came to my mind. Or maybe it was just that one word, a thousand times. 

1 hour ago, Big s said:

It may be worth a thousand words, but they can all be summed up with EWWWW!

Tough, but fair.  It really isn't lovely, that's for sure.

 

1 hour ago, Big s said:

looks like the legs are just falling off the sides 

It almost feels like the lower half is in a different scale than the upper half... like someone took the body of a 1/72 and tried to graft 1/60 legs onto it.

Posted

Think GBP, not fast packs. While this line is not something that interests me, I like the idea of armor variants like FEXT with their OWL.

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