Actar Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) I can instantly see the problem. Your legs are in the wrong position and are too far down, causing the shoulder to not fit into place. This can be seen by how the wing is being bent to fit into the leg and how the tail fin is falling below the wing. This is the correct position: See how the bottom of the wing isn't warped? Also take note of the tail fin position. The solution is to: - Click the knee joint down one notch. - Make sure that the leg is pegged into the correct hole in the torso (bottom one). - Make sure that the leg is collapsed in all the way. Edited July 7, 2015 by Actar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roanstalker Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Thanks man. I'll give it a try. So looking at some of the box shots of the toy it seems to be transformed wrong? Those legs are sitting much higher and someone the upper tabs of the wings are tabbed into the leg armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actar Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Thanks man. I'll give it a try. So looking at some of the box shots of the toy it seems to be transformed wrong? Those legs are sitting much higher and someone the upper tabs of the wings are tabbed into the leg armour. Yes. The photo is edited to hide the fact that the top of the wing doesn't tab into the FAST pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Thanks man. I'll give it a try. So looking at some of the box shots of the toy it seems to be transformed wrong? Those legs are sitting much higher and someone the upper tabs of the wings are tabbed into the leg armour. Yeah, actually we duscussed that 'find the tab' photo a few pages ago. It's weird that Bandai hides it where in fact in actuality it's super exposed. Is this the first time Bandai did this since they made the Renewal line? I can't remember seeing exposed tabs on their Valkyries when all the Packs are equipped. Guess, Bandai thinks too much on other areas and forgets the other areas. Like how they overengineer simple things only to overlook small details. Anyways, good luck Roanstalker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 my cdjapan 19 came in. didn't include factory tissue paper or foam wrapping paper like the one's i got direct from my contact. instead just traditional bubble wrap i still have one left in hlj, that one will prob be sealed in plastic with tissue paper but no foam wrapping paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F360 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 my cdjapan 19 came in. didn't include factory tissue paper or foam wrapping paper like the one's i got direct from my contact. instead just traditional bubble wrap i still have one left in hlj, that one will prob be sealed in plastic with tissue paper but no foam wrapping paper The one I got from HLJ had nothing...... I haven't seen tissue paper wrapping from HLJ in a long time.... well maybe on figmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzaffar Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 my cdjapan 19 came in. didn't include factory tissue paper or foam wrapping paper like the one's i got direct from my contact. instead just traditional bubble wrap i still have one left in hlj, that one will prob be sealed in plastic with tissue paper but no foam wrapping paper That's why I hate HLJs shipping meathods. They just throw the item in the box with a few air bubbles. Every other company nicely bubble wraps the item with padding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah, actually we duscussed that 'find the tab' photo a few pages ago. It's weird that Bandai hides it where in fact in actuality it's super exposed. Is this the first time Bandai did this since they made the Renewal line? I can't remember seeing exposed tabs on their Valkyries when all the Packs are equipped. Guess, Bandai thinks too much on other areas and forgets the other areas. Like how they overengineer simple things only to overlook small details. Anyways, good luck Roanstalker. I'm just going to put this out there, if Arcadia had put out a pic of a valk that showed such a large physical difference between something as significant as the entire wing root being a single piece when in reality it was a gappy mess they would have hell to pay. I feel like Bandai is being let off the hook when it's actually a massive issue as it doesn't look right, isn't accurate and was falsely advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roanstalker Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Yeah, actually we duscussed that 'find the tab' photo a few pages ago. It's weird that Bandai hides it where in fact in actuality it's super exposed. Is this the first time Bandai did this since they made the Renewal line? I can't remember seeing exposed tabs on their Valkyries when all the Packs are equipped. Guess, Bandai thinks too much on other areas and forgets the other areas. Like how they overengineer simple things only to overlook small details. Anyways, good luck Roanstalker. I'd say thats blatant false advertising. Surprising that Arcadia's YF-19 doesnt have this problem. Wth Bandai? And thanks guys for the help. Got it to be somewhat better (still a little gap). He's pone finicky toy. Much moreso than any other Bandai Valk toy I've got. I'm just going to put this out there, if Arcadia had put out a pic of a valk that showed such a large physical difference between something as significant as the entire wing root being a single piece when in reality it was a gappy mess they would have hell to pay. I feel like Bandai is being let off the hook when it's actually a massive issue as it doesn't look right, isn't accurate and was falsely advertised. They seem to try to show as little of the Advance Pack in Fighter mode as possible so you cant see the problem. Even in their promo video they only show Battroid mode with the Advance Pack. Advanced Fighter only used stock photos. Edited July 7, 2015 by Roanstalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I'm just going to put this out there, if Arcadia had put out a pic of a valk that showed such a large physical difference between something as significant as the entire wing root being a single piece when in reality it was a gappy mess they would have hell to pay. I feel like Bandai is being let off the hook when it's actually a massive issue as it doesn't look right, isn't accurate and was falsely advertised. I'd say thats blatant false advertising. Surprising that Arcadia's YF-19 doesnt have this problem. Wth Bandai? And thanks guys for the help. Got it to be somewhat better (still a little gap). He's pone finicky toy. Much moreso than any other Bandai Valk toy I've got. They seem to try to show as little of the Advance Pack in Fighter mode as possible so you cant see the problem. Even in their promo video they only show Battroid mode with the Advance Pack. Advanced Fighter only used stock photos. That's why I'm always happy and satisfied how Arcadia gearing towards the fan base by showing us a few glimpse here and there of what they're doing. And Mr.K always or most of the time answers fan's inquiring tweets. And that's a great relationship among the fan base. Even though they're not 100% perfect on their productions atleast you get to see first before it gets produced. Bandai on the other hand since they're bigger company than Arcadia, they would just create and produce something what they want to sell, period. No plans on keeping in touch with the fan base. Good thing they don't advice people to use tacky tacks on they YF-30 even though it's visible on their photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Um... unless you're talking about the paint they're going to use on the toy... where Arcadia doesn't even know themselves until they get the production unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Hahaha! That's true, true, true. But like I said on my previous post, 'they're not 100% percent on their production'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Actar, did I miss the post where you figured out what that piece was? I'm hoping to have a friggin' minute to put the super parts on my toy tonight so I can see what all this hubbub is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Arms Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Jenius, Can't wait for your review of the toy. Actar, you should post a transformation video if you have the time and resources. Edited July 7, 2015 by Golden Arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyg Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Mine just arrived! Like plenty of others, gappy, mistransformed mess out of the box. This will take some effort to close up. But initial impressions: she's huge and feels very nice to hold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyg Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Just a couple of observations about the gappy nature of how this thing seems to arrive, straight from the box. Some pics as well. Note the foot sitting outside the bottom of the leg, on one side: And some of the gaps: The wing would not click in all the way because the missile door was not clicked all the way in. I figured this out a bit after I took this pic, so that wing is now as flush as the other one to the body/leg. Is this normal? Note the crooked arms: OK, so the post on the wing root was not pushed in all the way on one side, and it was a royal pain to get it fully pushed down. It didn't really seem to make much difference though. Then I noticed the guns underneath. Here's how they look, right out of the box: And a better look with the cover partially flipped up (Be careful not to try to bend it all the way out, as it will foul on the sharp tip against the inside of the fuselage): Seem a bit out of place? I thought so. Here they are a bit more straightened out: I'm still struggling with gaps around the upper intakes though - anyone got any tips here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Save yourself several hours of frustration and just smash it against a wall and call it a day. I kid... I kid... But seriously... I've probably wasted 2 hours of an incredibly busy life dealing with the gappiness in that last picture and I've come to the conclusion that if the gappiness is even all the way across then you should just accept it as 'good enough' and not fiddle with it any more. My hope is that after a few transformations things will fit a little better as things loosen up a hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I'm still struggling with gaps around the upper intakes though - anyone got any tips here? IMG_20150708_1412331.jpg I should say one thing I realized about those gaps... it's not all gap. The dark paint on the front edge of the chest actually makes the gap look bigger than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Mine just arrived! Like plenty of others, gappy, mistransformed mess out of the box. This will take some effort to close up. But initial impressions: she's huge and feels very nice to hold! yeah it takes a little handling and massaging to start to really appreciate her! I gotta say I don't usually "play" with my Valks but my hands have an unusual attraction to this bird and im finding myself taking her out of the cabinet for a mess about! Today I managed to transform her back from battroid to fighter and back again and I have to say I really enjoyed the whole process! Surprisingly fairly straight forward too! Corrected a few little transformation mistakes I had made along the way too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 this is as tight as I can get the gaps on mine and this is the better of the two that I have of which stays in fighter mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shukenzero Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Still can't fit the two super parts on the wings no matter how I try in fear of breaking it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyg Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 this is as tight as I can get the gaps on mine and this is the better of the two that I have of which stays in fighter mode. That's pretty good and I'd be happy with that. My issue is still being able to see the tabs at the pointy end of the front of those parts. I can't see yours because the canards are in the way but I'd say it's a lot better than mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Okay, if you can see the tabs up around the hips then you probably have a geometry issue with the hips themselves. I would guess you need to grab the toy by the hips and try to rotate the bottom of the hips outward toward the wing tips. Obviously you're making a minor adjustment here. JVMacross, I think you've nailed the 'extra' that would have been a million times cooler than the pinpoint barrier punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 here's a better shot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 That's pretty good and I'd be happy with that. My issue is still being able to see the tabs at the pointy end of the front of those parts. I can't see yours because the canards are in the way but I'd say it's a lot better than mine. If you're having problems with the edge poking out and the tab not going all the way in, the hip joint is probably not squeezed in all the way. If you look on the under side, you can probably see a difference in distance. I resolved that by putting my thumb and index finger on the outer sides of the primary intakes and squeezing them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roanstalker Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Mine came relatively tight in box. Those wings took a bit to actually detach from the legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunneh Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Anyone having any issues with tampo rubbing off? Just curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Actually yeah... I casually rubbed a finger across some of the black on the wingroots, and it just flaked off... will probably have to touch up the paint on it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaitouSad Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Anyone having any issues with tampo rubbing off? Just curious... Actually yeah... I casually rubbed a finger across some of the black on the wingroots, and it just flaked off... will probably have to touch up the paint on it soon. That sounds bad... You guys think perhaps it'd be wise to maybe top coat part of the Valk before playing with it? Specifically the black parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggy99 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I've almost finished the weathering on my (just a little bit of dry brushing in some areas) and I'll be applying some Mr Topcoat flat, but weather is Melbourne is too cold right now. I was planning on doing it over the weekend, but forecast is rain rain and more rain.... I haven't had any tampo/paint rubbing/flaking off yet, and I handled it a lot while panel lining and weather it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I've almost finished the weathering on my (just a little bit of dry brushing in some areas) and I'll be applying some Mr Topcoat flat, but weather is Melbourne is too cold right now. I was planning on doing it over the weekend, but forecast is rain rain and more rain.... I haven't had any tampo/paint rubbing/flaking off yet, and I handled it a lot while panel lining and weather it. hmmm! looking forward to seeing your finished work! be sure to post up some photos for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F360 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) There's a set of YouTube videos on the 3 modes , He did like 1 a day so the next one will probably be armoring it up. F G B It's in Japanese but is easy to follow . Edited July 8, 2015 by F360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 great videos! pity I can't understand a word of it.. and to think I even studied Japanese in school! where oh where did all those brain cells go..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 There's a set of YouTube videos on the 3 modes , He did like 1 a day so the next one will probably be armoring it up. F G B It's in Japanese but is easy to follow . Here you go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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