YF-29 Durandal Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Besides the balloon hands for SDFM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2k6 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 iirc, there is no VF-1J on DYRL. a VF-1S yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hikaru jumps straight to the VF-1S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
close313 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Maybe you could watch the movie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knp9Mftt1Os Hikaru has the VF-1A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 There is a Hikaru TV VF1J briefly in DYRL... but Hik isn't in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 just the hands....it is animated both with and without the grey visor on the TV show...but just with grey visor on film version....unless the grey visor is part of the GBP setup??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The infamous gray visor, I prefer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 i think the 1J is only shown in DYRL in the GBP, and yes it has grey visor and different hands. man i love the 1J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I think he just needs to watch DYRL. Not sure why he's depriving himself of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Draw Me Like One of Your French Girls Edited July 18, 2014 by charger69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Draw Me Like One of Your French Girls I see what you did there.... Wonder if a VF-1 V2 can even do that pose....I never tried it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyD Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I can't tell what scene that's from? Any hints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typhoon Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 It's when Hikaru is on his first mission and boards the Zentran ship. From memory he was blown out of a hatch shortly after confronting a Zentran solider.....but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Prefer the grey goggled version myself, that's which VF-1J I have displayed with the rest of my Vermillion Squad/SDFM Valkyries. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Wonder if a VF-1 V2 can even do that pose....I never tried it..... yep! she can! sorta.. sorry couldn't help myself! Edited July 19, 2014 by spanner76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 ^ -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 There you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Maybe you could watch the movie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knp9Mftt1Os Hikaru has the VF-1A ^^This^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 just the hands....it is animated both with and without the grey visor on the TV show...but just with grey visor on film version....unless the grey visor is part of the GBP setup??? I'm pretty sure that the grey visor is not a part of the GBP setup so grey visor for DYRL and white visor for SDFM or maybe the grey visor for DYRL is an animation error as well? I think he just needs to watch DYRL. Not sure why he's depriving himself of it. I have now seen DYRL and I must say that SDFM has the better story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 When building the M3 website I recall having a difficult time deciding whether the visor was white or grey in the SDF Macross series. I decided to color one grey and then have a stylized coloring of the VF-1J featuring a white visor. Figured I had both bases covered. In most of the SDF Macross series, the VF-1J Valkyrie is shown with a white visor, though there are exceptions (Like the VF-1J GBP-1S Armored Valkyrie). I didn't have access to HD screen shots and extensive art books with colored Macross line art like I do today, so it was more difficult to reconcile contradictions when I first built my site 10 years ago. The Macross Chronicle and all official Yamato, Bandai, Arcadia and Revoltech toy/model products all depict the VF-1J visor as white. In the next update to my website, I'm going to change the standard model VF-1J visor back to a white visor, leaving only the GBP-1S with the grey. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Was there anything regarding the visor color differences in Macross Chronicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 yep! she can! sorta.. sorry couldn't help myself! Bahahahahaha! awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 When building the M3 website I recall having a difficult time deciding whether the visor was white or grey in the SDF Macross series. I decided to color one grey and then have a stylized coloring of the VF-1J featuring a white visor. Figured I had both bases covered. In most of the SDF Macross series, the VF-1J Valkyrie is shown with a white visor, though there are exceptions (Like the VF-1J GBP-1S Armored Valkyrie). I didn't have access to HD screen shots and extensive art books with colored Macross line art like I do today, so it was more difficult to reconcile contradictions when I first built my site 10 years ago. The Macross Chronicle and all official Yamato, Bandai, Arcadia and Revoltech toy/model products all depict the VF-1J visor as white. In the next update to my website, I'm going to change the standard model VF-1J visor back to a white visor, leaving only the GBP-1S with the grey. Hope that helps. Thumbs up. And I love your site, I always go there for my line art fix. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Q Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I seem to recall that there is a difference in the forearms of the DYRL vs SDFM valks. I'm not sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Perhaps the toys make some distinction, but I can't tell from the line art if there is supposed to be any difference in the arms. I'll post a comparison picture here (TV on the left, DYRL on the right)Kanedas BikeThen you'll adore the next update. A space ship full of line art has been revised across the website. Getting closer to finishing the update, but still so much work, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) When building the M3 website I recall having a difficult time deciding whether the visor was white or grey in the SDF Macross series. I decided to color one grey and then have a stylized coloring of the VF-1J featuring a white visor. Figured I had both bases covered. In most of the SDF Macross series, the VF-1J Valkyrie is shown with a white visor, though there are exceptions (Like the VF-1J GBP-1S Armored Valkyrie). I didn't have access to HD screen shots and extensive art books with colored Macross line art like I do today, so it was more difficult to reconcile contradictions when I first built my site 10 years ago. The Macross Chronicle and all official Yamato, Bandai, Arcadia and Revoltech toy/model products all depict the VF-1J visor as white. In the next update to my website, I'm going to change the standard model VF-1J visor back to a white visor, leaving only the GBP-1S with the grey. Hope that helps. I don't think that equipping the GBP armor parts should make the visor grey so it's probably an animation error in SDFM that carried over to DYRL. Edited July 22, 2014 by YF-29 Durandal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Just remembered.....there is probably also a difference in the cockpit canopies between TV and DYRL...but that also goes for all VF-1 types.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
close313 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Mr March, I didn't know how to show my appreciation for M3 until I realised you are actually here! I love that website so much and I can tell the amount of time and effort you have put into that site. Thanks so much for the invaluable resource! Looking forward for more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Perhaps the toys make some distinction, but I can't tell from the line art if there is supposed to be any difference in the arms. I'll post a comparison picture here (TV on the left, DYRL on the right) Kanedas Bike Then you'll adore the next update. A space ship full of line art has been revised across the website. Getting closer to finishing the update, but still so much work, lol Yes! And DYRL for the win. I don't think that equipping the GBP armor parts should make the visor grey so it's probably an animation error in SDFM that carried over to DYRL. More likely just a very deliberate design or aesthetic change. Especially since every Valkyrie had styling changes that include coloring and mechanical details (like the VF-1A head, Battroid hands, cockpit designs, etc., etc.). -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'm thinking like this: SDFM type VF-1J without GBP = white visor and SDFM type VF-1J with GBP = grey visor... so does the GBP armor parts make the visor grey or is it an animation error and did that animation error carry over to DYRL? And feel free to correct my grammar... english is not my first language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) I'm thinking like this: SDFM type VF-1J without GBP = white visor and SDFM type VF-1J with GBP = grey visor... so does the GBP armor parts make the visor grey or is it an animation error and did that animation error carry over to DYRL? And feel free to correct my grammar... english is not my first language. I'm not sure why you're hung up on this. The grey is consistent with the armor's aesthetic and perceived functionality. It is not an animation error. The only animation error(s) in DYRL is the first release's Max-1A (chest-stripe) and Roy-1S (heatshield) color-change, which was subsequently corrected in the Remastered DVD and the later Blu-Ray versions. The Takatoku 1/55 1J Hikaru was released with grey-visor for whatever reason. Yamato did not follow that with their regular Hikaru-1Js. The Yamato grey-visor Hikaru-1J 1/60 was a limited edition. Edited July 22, 2014 by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) I suppose it's possible the VF-1J GBP-1S grey visor is a color error that's been perpetuated, but there's no way to really know. I think it's more plausible it's a deliberate style choice on behalf of the artists and when you look at it white vs grey, the grey clearly works better for the armored mode. The Macross Chronicle colors the GBP-1S Armored Valkyrie visor grey and several pieces of official art over the years have done the same. There are also a few toys that use the grey visor. The standalone VF-1j is uniformly white across every Macross publication I've seen. I think most folks associate the VF-1J with a grey visor when armored, so I've stuck with that color scheme for the revised armored valkyrie art in the next website update. For the standalone VF-1J, I'm gonna go with white. I can always do a color variant if fans want. It's easy enough. But the standard VF-1J profile on the M3 will use white after the next update.Yes, I've noted the change in the Macross The First VF-1J cockpit glass. I've built a VF-1J "Macross The First" variant profile for the next update of my website and manually redrew the cockpit glass to match the new canopy. See attached image below. close313 Thanks for the praise. The M3 is a lot of work, but it's worth it. In addition to new material that is slated to appear, the next update is an broad "renovation" of existing material. The VF-1S Battroids shown in my post above are a good example of what the revised colored art will look like. In some cases, even more detailed colors will appear on other pictures. But not just the valkyries are revised, there's much more including revised ships, vehicles, missiles, gun pods, and other material. Trying hard to get it out this year, hopefully by the end of the summer or early fall. Edited July 22, 2014 by Mr March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yay I can't wait for the update Mr. March. Your website is awesomeness in a can. I hope to see some new YF-29 pictures and Frontier Valkyries in the style of the other ones on your site. Keep up the great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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