Kelsain Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I dont see why they are making this as a toy then. It is cool and all but there are some valks with more screen time and or equally little or less screen time but are better designs that would be better to make. But I guess it will make some people happy. Because it probably will share 90% of the VF-25 parts. As will the VF-27. Milkin' the molds, baby! Still, I'd get one! Perhaps the wings just fold back, ie the 25, but stick out further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin3060 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Me too. You never know. Bandai certainly didn't have issues releasing some very esoteric Gundams for their GFF line. So it gives me some hope for stuff like VF-9 or VF-5000. Yep... they are certainly showing Frontier alot more love than they did for 7 so I'm hopeful. Esp as 1/100 seems to be their mass market line--which is actually kind of smart! Instead of competing directly with Revoltech and Yamato's GNU-DOU, make a toy that is about the same size, but transformable! I think they've got a winner on their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReaper Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hmm, if I compare the two there aren't that many parts that could be reused. Especially as a lot of parts are likely to be grouped together like in the model kits. So if one part is changed you have to make entire new molds. Or at least make a new mold for all the changed parts and throw away the extras. About the only parts that seem unchanged are the legs, shoulder area and maybe arms. Though that YF-24 lineart looks to have been slapped together very quickly. Just look at those ugly rear stabilizers. So I guess they will correct the line-art to look a bit more like the VF-25 and just mount some different wings on it. Also the VF-27 shares nearly no common parts with the VF-25. They are superficially similar but every part actually has a slightly different form. You can at most save a bit on the time necessary to perfect the transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 wow... that just great Hehehe. Look on the bright side, it's good coloring, if I do say so myself They seem to have made some tweaks to them though. Notice that their YF-19 has some of the dark grey panels under the nose replaced with the sand color Indeed they have. But it's definitely mine. The coloring/shading of the VF-4 Lightning III fighter mode is especially telling as my own work, since it's a unique style that I invented for just that one fighter. damn Mr March, you should really get into that if you're right, you should request to get a compensation for it, it's you're work and they are just taking it without permission if it were the other way around you would be contacted immediately to get it removed LOL No, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. To get paid, I would have needed to have commissioned my skills to Bandai before releasing my work on the internet. Asking for compensation after the fact is really too little too late. Plus, the line art is theirs; the only thing I own is the coloring/shading work. I would have loved to color line art for Bandai and Big West, but I think I'm living in the wrong country for that Besides, I built my website for the english fans, and we've always got the short end of the stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReaper Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 You could still request your name to be acknowledged for the work you made, maybe even squeeze the Url in there. The surge in hosting costs and the fact that most japanese suck at english might hamper that though. The pretty pictures are worth it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 You could still request your name to be acknowledged for the work you made, maybe even squeeze the Url in there. The surge in hosting costs and the fact that most japanese suck at english might hamper that though. The pretty pictures are worth it though. If it were me, I'd just want them to send me a letter with nice bandai letter head saying that yes, they did use my stuff in their marketing material. Just so that I'd have something to show people when I tell them the story and they're all like "No way, I call BS" and anyways: YF-24! YAY!!! I honestly want that more than anything else from frontier. I love obscure underutilized valks. so how about a VF-4 and a VF-3000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Train Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I love that Basara VF-19. Definitely looks different than on the actual show, but the VF100 toy looks better.... and honestly the animation quality of M7 was er.... medium-quality, so this sculpt does the mecha justice in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGemini Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Bandai already has plans for the VF-171, YF-24, VF-27, and VF-1 seen in the Frontier series? A bit ambitious? Maybe just wishful thinking by Bandai? If they make it, I will buy. All of them. They should replace the VF-1 with the VF-171EX. I hope that the poll they're making is just to decide the order of the releases... The box says: Macross Zero (2008), Macross (2009) then... Ai Oboeteimasuka? then macross Plus (2040), Macross 7 (2045), Macross Frontier (2059)... can somebody understand what the last part says? And they have the option for: Normal, Super Parts, Armored Parts, Fold Booster and Super Fold Booster. Which one is the Super Fold Booster? the Fold Booster with Super parts like the YF-19 ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchizophrenicMC Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 They should replace the VF-1 with the VF-171EX. I hope that the poll they're making is just to decide the order of the releases... The box says: Macross Zero (2008), Macross (2009) then... Ai Oboeteimasuka? then macross Plus (2040), Macross 7 (2045), Macross Frontier (2059)... can somebody understand what the last part says? And they have the option for: Normal, Super Parts, Armored Parts, Fold Booster and Super Fold Booster. Which one is the Super Fold Booster? the Fold Booster with Super parts like the YF-19 ones? Something tells me Macross II... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 And they have the option for: Normal, Super Parts, Armored Parts, Fold Booster and Super Fold Booster. Which one is the Super Fold Booster? the Fold Booster with Super parts like the YF-19 ones? That all refers to option parts for the VF-25. The Super Fold booster was the prototype one developed by LAI Corp, that Michael used to get to Galia IV super fast. IIRC It's 10 times faster than a regular fold booster & ignores fold faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGemini Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 That all refers to option parts for the VF-25. The Super Fold booster was the prototype one developed by LAI Corp, that Michael used to get to Galia IV super fast. IIRC It's 10 times faster than a regular fold booster & ignores fold faults. Oh, ok. Thx! I hope these optional parts are sold as add-ins and not with new versions of the VF-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The more I look at the 1/100 VF-19Kai pic, the more convinced I am that it is going to have just as much, if not even more parts swapping than the 1/100 VF-25. On The VF-19Kai it looks like the whole torso and groin will have to be swapped out. I suspect also that possibly the head, tail fins and possibly shoulders may also need to be swapped. Looks like only the legs and arms may be common between versions. Hope that Bandai will utilise the molds to give us a VF-19F/S/P. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midi_Amp Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The box design is less glamorous than what I imagine, but still good enough, it's the inside what we care about right. The overall design from both the VF25 and the VF19 actually doesn't suit my taste, as I prefer the model kit built proportion. But truth be told... Pronounced hip movement and the ensuing dynamic pose just decimates the overall proportion. Bring it Bandai, I'll buy each and every one of em (at least every unit not including the variations). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCowboy Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The parts swapping on this line sort of killed it for me. I hate parts swapping in TFs. If you are going to do that, why not just give me really articulated models of each of the modes, and then I'll "transform" it by hiding the jet mode and putting the battloid in its place! It really sucks, because I'm a big fan of releasing non-VF-1 valks and was looking forward to this line. Oh well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'll have to see more of the 19 kai, but I too like it better than the animation. I know I can be a bit of a line art fanatic, but that mainly applies to the more recent designs that use CAD, and therefor didn't dramatically change proportions from one mode to the other. I never did care for the cartoony proportions that the M7 valks had and even M+ too.....ie.....huge legs and such......and mouths. For once it seems to work in my favor after the dx proportion debate. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The parts swapping on this line sort of killed it for me. I hate parts swapping in TFs. If you are going to do that, why not just give me really articulated models of each of the modes, and then I'll "transform" it by hiding the jet mode and putting the battloid in its place! It really sucks, because I'm a big fan of releasing non-VF-1 valks and was looking forward to this line. Oh well.. My feelings exactly. Maybe Yamato will copy this idea and make us some PT 1/100's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 My feelings exactly. Maybe Yamato will copy this idea and make us some PT 1/100's. Wasn't there a recent rumor that Yamato was thinking of doing a 1/100 line? I wonder if they would do PT or if they would also go the route of swapping. The one 1/100 toy they developed in the past (the unreleased VF-0) had just about the most parts swapping I'd ever seen on any transforming toy. I'm still holding out hope that at least some of the Bandais will be PT. There's no reason the VF-1 shouldn't be, although PT or not I don't really even want another VF-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheran Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) The 1/100 VF-25s look really good. To an untrained eye like mine, they look like the DX which I'm OK with. $50 is a little too high for me to consider for a parts former. According to the photos, to transform from robot to gerwalk, I'd have to pull apart almost everything off and re-plug everything in. I'd be OK with that if it was a ~$25 toy but not for double that price. If the price drops, I might pick up a couple to display. Maybe they'll be small enough to sit on the Yamato SDF-1's deck Edit: Added link to photo Edited February 25, 2009 by anotheran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheran Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 On another note... I wonder if the pieces will be interchangable between the different valks. It'd definitely be cool to mix and match wings/legs/arms so I can put a VF-1S head on a VF-25S body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 On another note... I wonder if the pieces will be interchangable between the different valks. It'd definitely be cool to mix and match wings/legs/arms so I can put a VF-1S head on a VF-25S body. I like the Frankenvalk (Valkenstein?) idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheran Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I like the Frankenvalk (Valkenstein?) idea! Yeah! Or build real valks like a VF-X-4 as on SDF with a VF-4 body and a VF-1 canopy! Edited February 25, 2009 by anotheran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin3060 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 On another note... I wonder if the pieces will be interchangable between the different valks. It'd definitely be cool to mix and match wings/legs/arms so I can put a VF-1S head on a VF-25S body. That's certainly one advantage of having a partsformer! Frankenmechs ala Battletech will be so much easier to build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm waiting for the VF-2SS and the VF-0. I hope their designs will be good. And the VF-4, like I had to say anything!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letigre Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 That all refers to option parts for the VF-25. The Super Fold booster was the prototype one developed by LAI Corp, that Michael used to get to Galia IV super fast. IIRC It's 10 times faster than a regular fold booster & ignores fold faults. Yeah, but I can't recall if the regular boosters looked any different from it or not? (I ask because Brera later has a booster attached to his Lucifer when he and Ranka were to depart with Ai-kun: it appeared like the Super Fold Booster from earlier, but it was never mentioned if it was the super, or a regular one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I sorta like the look of Basara's 19 but time will tell whether or not I actually buy it. If it doesnt come with the sound booster thingie then forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yeah, but I can't recall if the regular boosters looked any different from it or not? Yes, regular fold boosters look different from the super ones. Alto uses a regular booster when he escorts Sheryl to Galia IV. Michael user a super to get to Galia IV. Watch the eps to see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yeah, but I can't recall if the regular boosters looked any different from it or not? Yes, regular fold boosters look different from the super ones. Alto uses a regular booster when he escorts Sheryl to Galia IV. Michael user a super to get to Galia IV. Watch the eps to see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yeah, but I can't recall if the regular boosters looked any different from it or not? (I ask because Brera later has a booster attached to his Lucifer when he and Ranka were to depart with Ai-kun: it appeared like the Super Fold Booster from earlier, but it was never mentioned if it was the super, or a regular one. Brera was using the super booster. the regular booster looks the same as the boosters from Mac+ and Mac7 except for a different color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Be sure to post as soon as anybody gets a shipping note from HLJ or other suppliers. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 When is the Alto due out again? I thought it was this Saturday. If so, may pick one up then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGemini Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 When is the Alto due out again? I thought it was this Saturday. If so, may pick one up then. Originally, it was yesterday. The new date according to the website is: VF100's(ブイエフハンドレッズ) VF-25F メサイアバルキリー(早乙女アルト機) 5,040円 2009年02月28日 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 UGH. 5040en. I forgot it was so high. Not sure about that then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 The price is definitely ridiculously expensive for the scale and the parts-formation. I may not get any VF-25 variants after the Alto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareEX Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/331099...182ce699b_o.jpg VF-100 Ozma and Michel's Messiah units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midi_Amp Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 UGH. 5040en. I forgot it was so high. Not sure about that then. At 5000 yen, the price is actually falls quite comfortably between a non transforming highly articulated action figure and a transforming action figure. I considered Yamato's GN-U Macross series to be more expensive than the VF100 series at 3000 yen. For one thing the GN-U line is not transformable, and the articulation is not exactly superior than the VF100. At 5000 yen, the VF100 is priced just about right for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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