dizman Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Cool stuff, I love the Blue Angels shot with 1 and 3 looking like one plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) On 6/8/2017 at 0:32 AM, dizman said: Cool stuff, I love the Blue Angels shot with 1 and 3 looking like one plane. Yup great shot. The Angels are untouchable in the flight demo department. T-Birds are impressive too, but no one beats the Blue Angels. Surprisingly, I've even heard U.S. Air Force personnel agree with that. Chris Edited June 9, 2017 by Dobber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Glad I saw the 56FW fly their F-35 when I did---they were just grounded again today. (Oxy probs again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 What's with all these O2 problems now. F-22, F-35, F/A-18E/F, T-45. I don't recall hearing about issues like these in older aircraft like the Eagle, Tomcat, Fighting Falcon, legacy Hornet, and earlier. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Didn't have OBOGS like the new birds do. Like any newish tech, there's bugs that need to be worked out. Regrettably, these bugs are potentially lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Footage shot from the cockpit of a B-1B over the Baltic Sea with an Russian Naval Su-27 greeting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I thought the Naval Su-27k, also known as the Su-33, had the canards on it. The Flanker family is very confusing. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Yeah, the designation has become quite random. Know your Su-30: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 16 hours ago, Shadow said: Footage shot from the cockpit of a B-1B over the Baltic Sea with an Russian Naval Su-27 greeting them. oh wow epic shot of mr red 92! Such a beaut's the 27 lineage is.... read more about it here...http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/2017/06/12/watch-from-the-cockpit-of-a-b-1-as-its-intercepted-by-a-su-27/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Dobber said: I thought the Naval Su-27k, also known as the Su-33, had the canards on it. The Flanker family is very confusing. Chris this seems to be the SU-27P as per the article and flew from the chkalovsk air base, and not from a carrier, which the canards SU-33 flanker D would be taking off from.. Edited June 13, 2017 by seti88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Still see the RuAF loading mostly older R-27s onto the fighters instead of the R-77. I agree the designations surrounding the Flanker family is abit overwhelming, particularly the Su-30. I believe the Su-33 Sea Flankers are being retired though for the Mig-29K Fulcrum-Ds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalvasflam Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I have long ago lost track of the Flanker family. For me, there are only two main types, the platypus attack version and The mainline fighter version. Nobody can keep track of all those derivatives with canards, and a different camouflage schemes, and such. Basically, it is the same plane with a bunch of different skins, not unlike a lot of these modern day games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I remember in the 90s when you had the Su-35 and 37 demonstrators, then finally came the current Su-35S that threw everything ontop of its head. I think only the MiG-21 has more derivatives than the Flanker among Russian aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slide Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, kalvasflam said: I have long ago lost track of the Flanker family. For me, there are only two main types, the platypus attack version and The mainline fighter version. Nobody can keep track of all those derivatives with canards, and a different camouflage schemes, and such. Basically, it is the same plane with a bunch of different skins, not unlike a lot of these modern day games. close: most of the time there's a "new variant" of Russian machine it's an avionics/computer/internally upgraded model [usually these changes/upgrades filter back into older models to bring them up to current standards, which makes nomenclature even MORE ridiculous] or a straight-up MLU. Su-30 is SUPER complex because of all the export variants [see the chart from a little earlier in the thread]. this means externally, there's little or no difference. and since the Russians tend to use test/eval airframes to also try out new paint-schemes [at random], there's a new model/new scheme crossover that we westerners don't normally have to deal with, what with NATO aircraft all being boring [but effective] grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slide Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Just now, Shadow said: I remember in the 90s when you had the Su-35 and 37 demonstrators, then finally came the current Su-35S that threw everything ontop of its head. I think only the MiG-21 has more derivatives than the Flanker among Russian aircraft. test aircraft and service-aircraft do not share the same numbering scheme. The real Russian designations for those airframes translate as "object xxxxx" or "project xxxxx", much like their experimental tank numbering. Also the Russians do not like the idea of the west knowing what's up with their armed forces, so there's a lot of PURPOSEFULLY confusing nomenclature that gets out to us. Edited June 14, 2017 by slide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 At least the latest MiG has a very visible profile change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 The MiG-29SMT looks so strange in profile. it's like a weirdly truncated Flanker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 That is one BEEFY MiG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Speaking of Fulcrums. Has anyone seen a single seat version of the Mig-35? All shots I've seen is of the two-seater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I looks like the offspring off a MiG and he F/A-18. Very weird. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Looks like the Mig has got conformal fuel tanks like the new F-16's we keep seeing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal9000 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well something you don't hear about every day a TV blimp crashed, at the us open. I got a text from a friend that's on site. Reports are that the crew parachuted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-ZeroOne Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 So, having seen that MiG-29, the F-35 probably doesn't seem quite so lumpy anymore right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Nobody builds badass ugly russian fighters like MiG. Take that you girly Sukhois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 hours ago, electric indigo said: Nobody builds badass ugly russian fighters like MiG. Take that you girly Sukhois There was always something about the 2nd gen Mig-23ML series that I just liked. The MLA and MLD made it into more than just a small interceptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 15/06/2017 at 10:44 AM, Shadow said: Speaking of Fulcrums. Has anyone seen a single seat version of the Mig-35? All shots I've seen is of the two-seater. The single seater is essentially the same as the two seater but with the second seat replaced by the fuel tank. Thus, they all look like two seater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Anyone seen this yet??? https://www.cnet.com/pictures/meet-the-stratolaunch-the-worlds-largest-airplane/?ftag=ACQ9265a8a&vndid=1860861253&nan_pid=1860861253&ad_id=6365968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, derex3592 said: Anyone seen this yet??? https://www.cnet.com/pictures/meet-the-stratolaunch-the-worlds-largest-airplane/?ftag=ACQ9265a8a&vndid=1860861253&nan_pid=1860861253&ad_id=6365968 Yes, looks awesome even with the Rhutan weirdness! This is something NASA should have been doing for decades! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 So Lockheed just showed a new C-130J variant proposed for special operations. Intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frothymug Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 21 hours ago, derex3592 said: Anyone seen this yet??? https://www.cnet.com/pictures/meet-the-stratolaunch-the-worlds-largest-airplane/?ftag=ACQ9265a8a&vndid=1860861253&nan_pid=1860861253&ad_id=6365968 I actually agree with this launch methodology. This seems like the most cost-effective way to get small payloads into orbit. I am curious, though, why they didn't connect the tails together to give the entire structure more rigidity. Maybe they figured the payload would have adverse effects on aerodynamic surfaces, but that still shouldn't keep them from simply using it for structure reinforcement. Those wing spars between the two fuselages must be beefy as hell to resist torquing between the two bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I bet you the fly-by-wire system is programmed to keep the twin fuselages within millimeters of each other within normal parameters. I'll agree though that this is a case of two separate aircraft flying in ridiculously close formation, more so than any twin that's come before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 There's a lot of 747 parts in there. They bought 2 747-400's from United that had sequential serial numbers so as to be as identical as possible. The cockpits are from them, as are the engines and much of the landing gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-air-force-has-no-plans-to-restart-the-f-22-after-a-report-found-big-costs/article/2626637 Not surprised. Just disappointed. It's going to be a looong wait to the 6th generation fighter program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-ZeroOne Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 F-35A at Paris airshow, where that ultimate arbiter of combat aircraft effectiveness the online airshow video has definitely determined, ending all possible arguments and stopping any further discussion that the F-35 is the ultimate air combat machine past, present or future/more useless than a Brewster Buffalo thats already been shot down/sexier than a PaK-FA wearing a bikini/uglier than something found at the bottom of the ocean/what actually launched the proton torpedoes that destroyed the Death Star: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I only saw three failed attempts to pull a cobra... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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