tekering Posted December 28, 2025 Posted December 28, 2025 4 hours ago, M'Kyuun said: The late great Stan Winston was a design and engineering genius, and his Terminator design has long stood as one of my all-time favorite sci-fi robots. Credit where credit's due: Stan Winston's team was responsible for the engineering and fabrication of the puppets, but he'd always maintained that the design was entirely James Cameron's work. Quote
pengbuzz Posted December 28, 2025 Posted December 28, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, tekering said: Credit where credit's due: Stan Winston's team was responsible for the engineering and fabrication of the puppets, but he'd always maintained that the design was entirely James Cameron's work. Looks like me trying to get to the last piece of frozen chocolate cream pie.... ...those brussell sprouts in the freezer can be deadly! O.o Edited December 28, 2025 by pengbuzz Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted December 28, 2025 Posted December 28, 2025 (edited) Couple toylines spring to mind here when it comes to SF designs, but not the ones everyone probably knows - "StarCom" and "MegaForce". I never had any of them but they stand out as having a relatively "realistic" (by I guess "Action Forc - ", excuse me, I mean "G.I. Joe" standards of "realistic") aesthetic for the time. Early "Britains Space" also arguably had a more "grounded", "2001" style look compared to the likes of say "Star Wars" or "Micronauts" - if you ignore the yellow/orange paint of the original "hero" vehicles (Britains normally made military, farm and construction vehicle toys so I wonder if they used what they had in stock... ). And while I'm getting lyrical about old, obscure British toylines - "Action Man Space Ranger"! Edited December 28, 2025 by F-ZeroOne Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted December 28, 2025 Posted December 28, 2025 ZOIDS! Piloted mecha dinosaurs! How have we not mentioned "Zoids" yet?! Quote
Big s Posted December 28, 2025 Posted December 28, 2025 7 hours ago, F-ZeroOne said: "MegaForce" I barely remember Megaforce other than being a joke on Southpark and the recent model kit. Surprised it’s actually popular in Japan, must be the flying bikes Quote
M'Kyuun Posted December 28, 2025 Author Posted December 28, 2025 18 hours ago, tekering said: Credit where credit's due: Stan Winston's team was responsible for the engineering and fabrication of the puppets, but he'd always maintained that the design was entirely James Cameron's work. I stand corrected with appreciation. I'd forgotten that Cameron, like Ridley Scott, was a talented artist in his own right (he actually drew Jack's portrait of Rose in Titanic), and based the Terminator on a dream he'd had. I wish I could dream so grandly or draw...at all. I'll amend my comments to say that Stan Winston and his talented team were geniuses at translating directors' ideas into two- or three-dimensional reality and often times animating them. More often than not, they provided the magic behind 'movie magic' and film history is the better for their work. 5 hours ago, F-ZeroOne said: Couple toylines spring to mind here when it comes to SF designs, but not the ones everyone probably knows - "StarCom" and "MegaForce". I never had any of them but they stand out as having a relatively "realistic" (by I guess "Action Forc - ", excuse me, I mean "G.I. Joe" standards of "realistic") aesthetic for the time. Early "Britains Space" also arguably had a more "grounded", "2001" style look compared to the likes of say "Star Wars" or "Micronauts" - if you ignore the yellow/orange paint of the original "hero" vehicles (Britains normally made military, farm and construction vehicle toys so I wonder if they used what they had in stock... ). And while I'm getting lyrical about old, obscure British toylines - "Action Man Space Ranger"! I was completely unaware of Kenner's MegaForce but Coleco's StarCom was an impressive toy line even by today's standards. Like you, I never owned toys from either line, although I did have a handful of Micro Machines, the toy line Kenner was competing with (poorly IMHO) with MegaForce. Galoob had them outclassed from the get-go. Touching back on StarCom, I think, Like MASK and some other retro properties being revived, I think StarCom would be an excellent contender for resuscitation. Moreover, as a LEGO Classic Space fan (we'll have to talk about those designs in a moment), as LEGO is moving to incorporate more tech into their sets, and with their recent move towards sci-fi in their City Space sets, I'd love to see them create sets in the spirit of StarCom with friction motors and such powering little elevators, platforms, and doors, as well as extendible wings and other features. I think something like that would add an additional dimension of playability, as well as function, to the extremely successful play pattern they enjoy through the construction medium. Returning to LEGO Classic Space, and just LEGO Space thereafter, LEGO delivered a plethora of futuristic and sometimes outlandish sci-fi vehicles and playsets from 1978 with the initial batch of sets including the iconic Galaxy Explorer until 2013 with the loosely Starship Troopers inspired Galaxy Squad line, the last of the independent original sci-fi Space themes. Two distinct features set these sets apart from previous LEGO sets and set them on their path to immediate success: the introduction of specialized elements (often designed for cross-compatability with their other two intial themes, Town and Castle) and the iconic Minifigure. Although he had some heavily supervised help from his small team, Jens Nygaard Knudsen almost singlehandedly developed the first wave of 1978's Space line as well as inventing the Minifigure that would impart a much greater level of interactivity and playability with the sets. As sci-fi designs go, there are thirty-five years' worth of original designs to unpack, and the recent 2024 City Space sets which have fully leaned into sci-fi designs as well as the inclusion of aliens, two firsts in Town/City's long history of grounded Space sets. A quick snapshot : 1978's Galaxy Explorer, 1981 Starfleet Voyager, 1982 Mobile Rocket Transport, 1983 Galaxy Commander, 1986 Alien Moon Stalker, 1987 Futuron Star Defender 200, 1987 Blacktron Battrax, 1987 Blacktron Renegade, 1987 Polaris I Space Lab, 1987 Futuron Monorail transport System (the holy grail of many a Space fan), 1989 Space Police Spy Trak I, 1990 M-Tron Mega Core Magnetizer, 1991 Blacktron II Spectral Starguider, 1991 Aerial Intruder, 1992 Space Police II Solar Snooper, 1993 Ice planet 2002 Deep Freeze Defender, 1994 Spyrius Lunar launch Site, 1994 Unitron Monorail Transport Base, 1996 Explorien Starship, 1997 Robo Force Robo Raptor, 1997 UFO Alien Avenger, 1998 Insectoids Sonic Stinger, 2001 Life on Mars Recon Mech RP (notably LEGO's first true humanoid mecha sets and first non-minifig aliens), 2007 Mars Mission ETX Alien Mothership Assault (notable for the awful alien figs), 2007 MX-71 Recon Dropship, MT-61 Crystal Reaper, MT-201 Ultra-Drill Walker, 2009 Space Police 3 Container Heist, Hyper Speed Pursuit, Galactic Enforcer, Raid VPR (a Vic Viper inspired build, inspired by the ships in Gradius made popular by the late great NNENN), Undercover Cruiser, Lunar Limo ( featuring LEGO's first and only pimp-inspired minifig😄), 2011 Alien Conquest Tripod Walker, Alien Mothership, Earth Defense HQ, 2013 Galaxy Squad Hive Crawler, Space Swarmer, CLS-89 Eradicator Mech, Vermin Vaporizer, 2022 10497 Galaxy Explorer (LEGO's 90th anniversary), 2024 City Space sets, all featuring sci-fi or futuristic designs akin to the old Space sets of yore, and finally, Friends Space, also leaning into sci-fi design. I hope this trend continues with City Space, or that the sci-fi element splits off once again into its own subtheme. 7 hours ago, F-ZeroOne said: ZOIDS! Piloted mecha dinosaurs! How have we not mentioned "Zoids" yet?! Holy cow, how could I forget Zoids?!!! I have a small army of those kits that I've accumulated and built over the decades, starting in the 80s when they first premiered. My Kotobukiya Shadow Fox still stands guard on my desk, and I have an unbuilt Kotobukiya Blade Liger that I bought about a decade ago sitting under my desk that I need to put together. Definitely one of the coolest robot lines, especially given the ability to swap weapons and accessories. The early kits were notable for their motorized movements, although I prefer the non-motorized highly articulated kits that emphasize posing and display. Great mention, @F-ZeroOne! I'll note, too, the old Mego Microman toys circa 1979. One in particular that I owned was the Hornetroid, which had a manual flapping-wing mechanism, closing front jaws (using a fig to push in the tongue- brilliant!) an opening cockpit that could seat a Microman figure, folding landing gear, and removable weapons. It was such a unique and playable toy that it still holds a fond place in my memory. Quote
JB0 Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 Man, I remember StarCom. I never had any of the toys, but they were right up my alley, as was the cartoon(what little I remember of it). Zoids is one of those franchises that for years I was just completely unsure how it failed to land on me. Learning more of the history in the last couple of years, I know how I missed it entirely... and it turns out I actually didn't, but only barely. For a very brief time, the line was available in the US under the name RoboStrux. And I lusted after the RoboStrux toys, but never owned any(few in America did). But I definitely SAW them, and they stuck in the back of my mind for years and years. Every so often I'd see these toys in my head again and I would try to find out what they were, but "robot dinosaur toy" is NOT a useful search term. When I started seeing Zoids stuff it looked weirdly familiar for some reason I couldn't place. This ALSO bugged me until I was looking at the series history for some unrelated reason and saw the variety of attempts made to sell it internationally and when I saw the RoboStrux name it pulled some truly ancient memories back out of the mental coffin they'd been consigned to in a huge "holy crap" moment. Quote
Big s Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 38 minutes ago, JB0 said: Man, I remember StarCom. I never had any of the toys, but they were right up my alley, as was the cartoon(what little I remember of it). I had a couple, but really wish I had more. It was a super cool concept almost more realistic ships and fighters with pilots that had magnetic feet to kinda give more of a zero g kinda feel. Also was just watching the intro for the show on YouTube about a month ago and that was actually pretty cool Quote
tekering Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 (edited) We never had ZOIDS or StarCom where I grew up, but I remember being quite taken with ROBOTIX: Despite sharing much of the writing and production staff (not the mention the voice cast) of Transformers and GI Joe, the short-lived Robotix cartoon was lackluster and all-but forgotten today. 😅 Edited December 29, 2025 by tekering Quote
Big s Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 28 minutes ago, tekering said: We never had ZOIDS or StarCom where I grew up, but I remember being quite taken with ROBOTIX: Despite sharing much of the writing and production staff (not the mention the voice cast) of Transformers and GI Joe, the short-lived Robotix cartoon was lackluster and all-but forgotten today. 😅 Definitely a cool toy for the imagination. I only had a few as a kid, but a friend of mine would find less than complete sets at cheap goodwill type places and would use the motors and stuff to make odd mechanical creations. I always wondered why he never got into the whole battling robot thing. He seemed to have had the concept long before that battle bots show aired Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 (edited) 8 hours ago, Big s said: I barely remember Megaforce other than being a joke on Southpark and the recent model kit. Surprised it’s actually popular in Japan, must be the flying bikes Hi, to the best of my knowledge the film called “MegaForce”and the toyline called “MegaForce” are completely unrelated. Presumably a trademark lapsed at some point, or given the state of toy licensing at the time, the toy producers were completely unaware. Lego Space and Robotix are good shouts! I always got the impression “Zoids” was more popular in the UK than the US. We got a pretty good comic book (I think it merged with “Spider-Man” in the UK eventually; it may just have ran as a back up strip there and I’m misremembering) with art by Steve Yeowell (possibly best known for his work at “2000AD” with “Zenith”) and I think one of the “big” comics writers also did scripts for it, I want to say Grant Morrison? The UK comic book continuity was more or less separate from the Japanese background material. When I first started travelling to Japan, I used to see “Zoids” kits all the time (the original Tony releases, not the later even more detailed toys and model kits), really wish I’d picked up a few. I’ve frequented a few local toy fairs recently and they seem to be fairly scarce as “classic” toys go, I’ve only seen one out of half a dozen shows I’ve been to. Edited December 29, 2025 by F-ZeroOne Quote
Big s Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 1 hour ago, F-ZeroOne said: I always got the impression “Zoids” was more popular in the UK than the US. It was a fairly popular thing more so at hobby shops since the old zoids were more like wind up kits. I think robotix kinda took off a bit due to a cartoon and more options as far as what the machines could actually do, but price made them more rare unfortunately. Quote
Scyla Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 Thanks to this thread I remember some of the sci-fi media I consumed as a kid. One thing that came to mind were the Yoko Tsuno comics by the Belgian writer Roger Leloup which might not be that well known by North-American sci-fi fans. Especially the mechanical design of the vessels are memorable to me. With their large windscreens, small cockpit- and large propulsion-section is distinctly scientific fiction and their design really speaks to me: Quote
M'Kyuun Posted December 29, 2025 Author Posted December 29, 2025 (edited) 12 hours ago, tekering said: We never had ZOIDS or StarCom where I grew up, but I remember being quite taken with ROBOTIX: Despite sharing much of the writing and production staff (not the mention the voice cast) of Transformers and GI Joe, the short-lived Robotix cartoon was lackluster and all-but forgotten today. 😅 I remember Robotix, both the show and the kits. I couldn't get into the former and never had any of the latter. That said, the toys looked cool, and back then anything involving robots or robotics was cool to me. Except the show, ironically. I had Zoids under both the Zoids and Robostrux brand names. I know I found some in stores throughout the 80s, 90s, and into the millennium, but I think I probably got one or two, especially my copy of Radox, from Sears or JC Penny catalogs. We didn't have TRU near us, but we did have a few dept stores which carried toys, but my mom didn't drive, so the catalogs were her go-tos for a lot of my toys at Christmas and birthdays. I still have this guy packed away in a box somewhere. I probably have 20-30 Zoids/Robostrux kits, mostly the small to medium ones, with Radox, IIRC, being the only large one I own. Well, my Kotobukiya Blade Liger will be on the larger side if I ever get around to building it. This toyline definitely struck a chord with me for both the engineering involved, but also all the mechanical details. How can you say no to robotic dinosaurs and insects, especially when they're done this well? 7 hours ago, Scyla said: Thanks to this thread I remember some of the sci-fi media I consumed as a kid. One thing that came to mind were the Yoko Tsuno comics by the Belgian writer Roger Leloup which might not be that well known by North-American sci-fi fans. Especially the mechanical design of the vessels are memorable to me. With their large windscreens, small cockpit- and large propulsion-section is distinctly scientific fiction and their design really speaks to me: This is definitely new to me, an American. Despite being slightly more cosmopolitan than the vast majority of my countrymen due to my military travels, there are always new things to learn which is why forums like this are such a fantastic medium. Those are some interesting designs, and the artist appears to have taken inspiration from 1950s and 60s aerospace designs like the XB-70 Valkyrie and perhaps some of the Gemini/Apollo stuff, with some artistic flare, of course. Neat stuff! Thanks for sharing! Love that ship in the center, a nice precursor to the NASA orbiter. The spherical tanks, the opening cargo bay, and the long extended forward fuselage impart a sleek yet utilitarian aesthetic that makes for a believable craft. I'm not crazy about the yellow color (b/c yellow is a horrible, horrible color), but everything else is groovy. Edited December 29, 2025 by M'Kyuun Quote
Mog Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 One thing I’ve enjoyed with more recent sci-fi is how they’ve incorporated Newtonian motion into space battles. The BSG Vipers with their herky-jerky moves when they suddenly change directions with RCS thrusters. Or the ships in The Expanse flipping around halfway on their route to slow down. Quote
Scyla Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 1 hour ago, M'Kyuun said: I remember Robotix, both the show and the kits. I couldn't get into the former and never had any of the latter. That said, the toys looked cool, and back then anything involving robots or robotics was cool to me. Except the show, ironically. I had Zoids under both the Zoids and Robostrux brand names. I know I found some in stores throughout the 80s, 90s, and into the millennium, but I think I probably got one or two, especially my copy of Radox, from Sears or JC Penny catalogs. We didn't have TRU near us, but we did have a few dept stores which carried toys, but my mom didn't drive, so the catalogs were her go-tos for a lot of my toys at Christmas and birthdays. I still have this guy packed away in a box somewhere. I probably have 20-30 Zoids/Robostrux kits, mostly the small to medium ones, with Radox, IIRC, being the only large one I own. Well, my Kotobukiya Blade Liger will be on the larger side if I ever get around to building it. This toyline definitely struck a chord with me for both the engineering involved, but also all the mechanical details. How can you say no to robotic dinosaurs and insects, especially when they're done this well? This is definitely new to me, an American. Despite being slightly more cosmopolitan than the vast majority of my countrymen due to my military travels, there are always new things to learn which is why forums like this are such a fantastic medium. Those are some interesting designs, and the artist appears to have taken inspiration from 1950s and 60s aerospace designs like the XB-70 Valkyrie and perhaps some of the Gemini/Apollo stuff, with some artistic flare, of course. Neat stuff! Thanks for sharing! Love that ship in the center, a nice precursor to the NASA orbiter. The spherical tanks, the opening cargo bay, and the long extended forward fuselage impart a sleek yet utilitarian aesthetic that makes for a believable craft. I'm not crazy about the yellow color (b/c yellow is a horrible, horrible color), but everything else is groovy. According to Wikipedia the artist did build models of some of the designs to create credible drawings from all angles of the various ships in the comic. He is similar to Kawamori in this regard. The designs with the elongated clear cockpit sections and beefy rear fuselages clearly speak to me (which is why I adore the VF-25 Armored Messiah) so there is a clear through line between the comic, the shmup ship designs to my love for the mecha design in Macross. Speaking of shmups, my favorite ship is probably the one from the cover of the PAL version of Super R-Type (and the GameBoy version of R-Type); the NES Gradius cover art being a close second: Quote
Big s Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 As far as side scrolling spaceship shooters, my favorite ended up being Einhander Quote
Hikuro Posted January 1 Posted January 1 On 12/27/2025 at 7:22 PM, tekering said: Credit where credit's due: Stan Winston's team was responsible for the engineering and fabrication of the puppets, but he'd always maintained that the design was entirely James Cameron's work. There's an old Terminator comic by Dark Horse I read many years ago. The art style and colors are very similar to Cameron's work here. Pretty dark and horrible future in t hat comic with John Connor pretty much at the end of his rope ready to give up, and Skynet getting desperate in it's attacks launching nukes against tectonik plates and volcanos. Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Another memory bank kicked into stuttering life: when "2000AD" launched, the lead strip wasn't a certain Lawman of the Future, but a reimagined "Dan Dare". Originally drawn by Massimo Belardinelli and later by a certain Dave Gibbons (whatever happened to him?) the strip featured a "mothership" for Dan called a "Space Fortress" (I'm fairly sure, but can't confirm, the name was inspired by the B-17) and a smaller gunship-like craft I forget the name of (possibly, and suitably enough, "Eagle"?) both of which featured technical cutaways in the comic and which were great examples of late 70s style "realistic" spaceships. Speaking of Dave Gibbons, also in "2000AD" was "Rogue Trooper" which over its life featured some amazing "future war" vehicles depicted by various artists including Cam Kennedy and Collin Wilson. An animated movie, directed by Doug Jones, is coming "soon". I'll also mention "Starblazer", which will require a bit of explaining - a long-running fixture of British newsagents (convenience stores) were "Commando" comics, little booklet-size comics usually depicting war stories which has been going for a long time (I think it still is!); for a while it had a SF counterpart, "Starblazer". Some of the covers for "Starblazer" featured amazing late 70s/early 80s SF art, some drawn by the much overlooked Ian Kennedy. And finally there was a series of books that haunted second-hand bookshops for years under the "Terran Trade Authority" banner, being essentially a showcase for various SF themed work by various artists with accompanying fluff text written by Stewart Cowley. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted Friday at 11:42 PM Author Posted Friday at 11:42 PM 6 hours ago, F-ZeroOne said: Another memory bank kicked into stuttering life: when "2000AD" launched, the lead strip wasn't a certain Lawman of the Future, but a reimagined "Dan Dare". Originally drawn by Massimo Belardinelli and later by a certain Dave Gibbons (whatever happened to him?) the strip featured a "mothership" for Dan called a "Space Fortress" (I'm fairly sure, but can't confirm, the name was inspired by the B-17) and a smaller gunship-like craft I forget the name of (possibly, and suitably enough, "Eagle"?) both of which featured technical cutaways in the comic and which were great examples of late 70s style "realistic" spaceships. Speaking of Dave Gibbons, also in "2000AD" was "Rogue Trooper" which over its life featured some amazing "future war" vehicles depicted by various artists including Cam Kennedy and Collin Wilson. An animated movie, directed by Doug Jones, is coming "soon". I'll also mention "Starblazer", which will require a bit of explaining - a long-running fixture of British newsagents (convenience stores) were "Commando" comics, little booklet-size comics usually depicting war stories which has been going for a long time (I think it still is!); for a while it had a SF counterpart, "Starblazer". Some of the covers for "Starblazer" featured amazing late 70s/early 80s SF art, some drawn by the much overlooked Ian Kennedy. And finally there was a series of books that haunted second-hand bookshops for years under the "Terran Trade Authority" banner, being essentially a showcase for various SF themed work by various artists with accompanying fluff text written by Stewart Cowley. Despite having been to England a number of times, including having lived there for four months (stayed at least a couple weeks at the Bell Inn in Thetford- never saw any ghosts though), I remain largely ignorant to a great deal of British media, especially comics. I've never really been into comic books, even American ones, so I'm woefully out of the loop. Of course, Judge Dredd has seen a couple retellings via Hollywood, for better or worse, and stuff like the Thunderbirds and Space 1999, as well as the wildly popular and long running Dr. Who series have been airing on American tvs for decades, not to mention toys thereof. I had to employ some Google-fu to look up the respective artists you mentioned, and I'm sure what popped up only scratches the surface of each artist's body of work. I was surprised to learn that there was a PS4 game based on Collin Wilson's Rogue Trooper called, appropriately enough, Rogue Trooper Redux. Duncan Jones helmed an animated film starring the likes of Hayley Atwell, Sean Bean, Asa Butterfield, and Aneurin Barnard as the eponymous Rogue Trooper. It was intended for release in summer 2025, but has been delayed, date to be determined. Anyway, thanks for sharing these memories of early British sci-fi. I was moved to look up other UK based artists in sci-fi and discovered Peter Elson, whose work is exemplary and definitely merits mention and a look. I never heard his name before, but I'm wowed looking through his various works. This Is Cool has a nice brief gallery as well, and serendipitously turned out to be an awesome resource for myriad international artists doing sci-fi and fantasy art. Jim Burns is a multi-Hugo-award winning sci-fi and fantasy artist, and Chris Moore, who sadly passed in Feb 2025, was an eclectic artist across themes and styles. Many of his works graced book covers, his claim to fame, if you will. I think I'll also mention the late H.R. Giger here, a Swiss artist best known for creating the Alien Xenomorph, as well as other designs across the Alien franchise. Beyond that, Giger had an incredible and unique talent for creating otherworldly biomechanical creatures, objects, and landscapes, often with sexual overtones. He also created the look of the alien leads in Species and Species II. For creating one of the most notable of sci-fi movie monsters, still highly relevant today, and for his signature style, Giger merits a significant mention. Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted Saturday at 07:52 PM Posted Saturday at 07:52 PM I had the original release of the "Rogue Trooper" videogame; it was actually pretty good fun. By no means top tier but for what it was, much better than one would expect. It had a suitably "chunky" look to the hardware. Its not the first "Rogue Trooper" game - one was actually released for various 8-bit home computers, along with a "Nemesis the Warlock" game and (I think ) a couple of "Strontium Dog" titles. Peter Elsons work I know, though until now I didn't know his name - I loved the "Stainless Steel Rat" books (and they also had a "2000AD" adaptation; its basically the "Kevin Bacon" of British pop culture... 😅) Chris Moore and Jim Burns, again, not overly familiar names but I've almost certainly seen their work. Comics were a big part of British popular culture up to the mid-80s; war comics were still popular here long after they'd faded in the US, and it arguably took "Star Wars" to finally dethrone them. In a way I could say, comics wise, I experienced American comics in a kind of reverse process; when I grew up in the early 80s US comics were relatively rare and when the stories made it over it was often as a back-up strip in another Marvel-associated title (like "Star Wars". To save money; these imports were often re-printed in black and white rather than colour; one story that stands out in my memory is Tony Stark somehow being locked in his armour and Ant-Man having to go in to solve the issue whilst being attacked by the Iron Man suits internal defences). Sometimes Marvel and DC stories would be published in compilations (rather like how "Judge Dredd" comics were released in the US); actual US editions I usually acquired packaged in bundles at "holiday camps" or on holidays to the Spanish islands. One time I acquired a stash of "Archie" comics at an event in a nearby city, which introduced me to a whole different style of US comic; arguably more "realistic" than superheroes and even native publications like "The Beano" (which while usually set in the "real" world were full of what is usually described as "wacky hi-jinks"). And to this day I still don't recognise this "Dennis the Menace" version you claim to have on your side of the pond... 😅 Please note I grew up in a semi-rural part of the UK so don't take my youthful SF media experiences as necessarily reflective of the whole country. Anyway. Before I derail things any further, to my shame it has taken me this long to realise I have somehow, in a discussion of "General Sci-fi Designs Across Various Media", failed to mention the Granddaddy of British SF - Herbert George Wells. Granted, he didn't directly illustrate the iconic Martian tripod, but his descriptions have certainly proved a big inspiration to many over the decades. And as a further dive into obscure British SF media, theres the rather over-ambitious BBC production (adapted from a book series) "The Tripods" from back in the day... Quote
Big s Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM 1 hour ago, F-ZeroOne said: And to this day I still don't recognise this "Dennis the Menace" version you claim to have on your side of the pond... 😅 Oddly there is a YouTube guy that immigrated from Britain to the U.S. that has a YouTube channel called Lost in the Pond where he talks about the differences he’s noticed from both countries over the years and recently did a video of name changes of movies from the USA to England when they pop up overseas. It was the first time I ever heard there was a different Dennis the Menace comic on that side of the pond. He didn’t really have time to go over every movie or anything, just the ones he could remember off hand for the most part. Fun little channel for fun useless information Quote
electric indigo Posted Sunday at 03:29 PM Posted Sunday at 03:29 PM We can't talk about British SF influences without mentioning Chriss Foss. One of the most prolific and unique SF artist since the late 70s. You couldn't walk into a bookstore without noticing one of his wild cover illustrations back then. He was part of the Jodorowski Dune design team and contributed some preliminary art to the Alien movie. To this day, I'm waiting for a big SF production to fully utilize his style. Quote
M'Kyuun Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Author Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM I've always loved this cover illustration of R. Giskard from Asimov's Robots of Dawn by Michael Whelan. Still have my copy from when I was about twelve years old. It was the cover that caught my attention, and ever since I've always wanted to see Asimov's robots depicted in a show or film like this. Chris Foss has an impressive body of work, and while his style doesn't always appeal to me, his work manifests a great imagination and the wherewithal to make it come alive on the canvas. Harkening back to @F-ZeroOne's post above, two founding fathers of Sci-fi, the British H.G. Wells and the French Jules Verne, painted their pictures with words and established a foundation for the early sci-fi genre using their knowledge of scientific advances of their eras and weaving them into narratives that continue to influence sci-fi to this day. Much like today's authors, they engaged in speculative fiction, which built upon nuggets of accepted scientific fact and liberal license as to how that science would manifest in various circumstances. Quote
electric indigo Posted Sunday at 10:45 PM Posted Sunday at 10:45 PM BTW Chris Foss did the basic design for the Eagle Transporter: And there is a tribute piece in the first Star Wars movie: Quote
F-ZeroOne Posted Monday at 02:43 PM Posted Monday at 02:43 PM Chris Foss! I've been trying to remember that name ever since the topic of SF cover artists came up! Quote
tekering Posted Monday at 03:05 PM Posted Monday at 03:05 PM 16 hours ago, electric indigo said: And there is a tribute piece in the first Star Wars movie: 50 years obsessed with Star Wars minutiae, and there's still more to learn. 🤯 Quote
derex3592 Posted Monday at 06:09 PM Posted Monday at 06:09 PM Same! Had no idea that odd black droid was anything other than something the model/prop makers dreamed up for that 1st scene at the droid sale! Awesome! Quote
Big s Posted Monday at 09:20 PM Posted Monday at 09:20 PM 16 hours ago, Swann said: Frazetta is one of my favorites. One of mine as well and while those were great fantasy works, I think what sticks in my mind as far as Sci fi is his stuff for Battlestar Galactica. I don’t know if he really had seen any of it before doing his works or if it was just someone describing things of the show to him and he did the promo art. I had seen some in old tv schedule article collections years ago and loved them, even though they didn’t seem quite like how things ended up on screen Quote
M'Kyuun Posted Tuesday at 03:21 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:21 AM 5 hours ago, Big s said: One of mine as well and while those were great fantasy works, I think what sticks in my mind as far as Sci fi is his stuff for Battlestar Galactica. I don’t know if he really had seen any of it before doing his works or if it was just someone describing things of the show to him and he did the promo art. I had seen some in old tv schedule article collections years ago and loved them, even though they didn’t seem quite like how things ended up on screen I like everything about that last painting except the out-of -place Viking chick; she's too much of a fantasy trope that sticks out like a sore thumb in an otherwise very sci-fi environment. For the record, I'm not much of a fantasy fan, and I generally like my sci-fi more on the science-y side than otherwise. The robots look great, the domed cities in the background are absolutely apropos, and the ships, which remind me of a cross between manta rays and the Horton Ho 229 or this set from the LEGO Ninjago Movie are fitting. If the girl was wearing some sort of space suit or jumpsuit with sci-fi accoutrement, it'd be perfect. Quote
Big s Posted Tuesday at 03:29 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:29 AM 4 minutes ago, M'Kyuun said: I like everything about that last painting except the out-of -place Viking chick; she's too much of a fantasy trope that sticks out like a sore thumb in an otherwise very sci-fi environment. For the record, I'm not much of a fantasy fan, and I generally like my sci-fi more on the science-y side than otherwise. The robots look great, the domed cities in the background are absolutely apropos, and the ships, which remind me of a cross between manta rays and the Horton Ho 229 or this set from the LEGO Ninjago Movie are fitting. If the girl was wearing some sort of space suit or jumpsuit with sci-fi accoutrement, it'd be perfect. The scantily clad ladies were really his thing. Even when it doesn’t fit the backdrop. I absolutely appreciate his work, but definitely makes you wonder if he actually watched the show or saw much of the preproduction stuff and then just started sketching from memory or what. I’ll have to search for some interviews or something and try and find out what led to his interpretations Quote
M'Kyuun Posted Tuesday at 03:55 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:55 AM 17 minutes ago, Big s said: The scantily clad ladies were really his thing. Even when it doesn’t fit the backdrop. I absolutely appreciate his work, but definitely makes you wonder if he actually watched the show or saw much of the preproduction stuff and then just started sketching from memory or what. I’ll have to search for some interviews or something and try and find out what led to his interpretations I don't mind scantily clad women; however, make even the minimal apparel fit the genre. If she was wearing a two-piece bathing suit with a gun belt holding a laser rifle and wearing some sort of space helmet or even a visor with headphones and a little mic, with maybe a hint of some cybernetic limbs, at least she'd fit the part. Just, no Vikings in a robot battle, please. Having just watched GitS: SAC, Major Kusanagi comes immediately to mind as one of those more well-known scantily clad sci-fi women, and I'm good with it. More Motoko, less Viking. 😄 Quote
Big s Posted Tuesday at 07:10 AM Posted Tuesday at 07:10 AM 3 hours ago, M'Kyuun said: Having just watched GitS: SAC, Major Kusanagi comes immediately to mind as one of those more well-known scantily clad sci-fi women, and I'm good with it. More Motoko, less Viking. 😄 I don’t know,that first season kinda weirds me out. The manga she totally fits with the other characters, but that first season of the show she’s just wandering around demanding to be taken seriously, but the only person in a thong. Doesn’t even matter the situation. She could be on the street or in a business office or at the prime minister’s building just the only person in a thong. The second part of the show put pants on and it kinda felt more in line with the universe, but nothing against hot ladies in thongs, but it just seems really weird to have one random lady in charge of things with just a thong and a short coat demanding respect Quote
M'Kyuun Posted Tuesday at 09:06 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:06 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Big s said: I don’t know,that first season kinda weirds me out. The manga she totally fits with the other characters, but that first season of the show she’s just wandering around demanding to be taken seriously, but the only person in a thong. Doesn’t even matter the situation. She could be on the street or in a business office or at the prime minister’s building just the only person in a thong. The second part of the show put pants on and it kinda felt more in line with the universe, but nothing against hot ladies in thongs, but it just seems really weird to have one random lady in charge of things with just a thong and a short coat demanding respect Well, you're not wrong. It is odd that she traipses around in a thong regardless of situation or environment and nobody bats an eye or shows any discomfort. I realize she's fully prosthetic, but it seems she's anatomically endowed and fully functional. She sleeps topless in just panties next to a teenaged boy in 2nd season after emerging from the shower in said panties with naught but a towel draped around her neck to partially cover her breasts. Moreover, after he inquires whether she can have sex, she playfully invites him to find out. A bit risqué if not ethically questionable. If the genders were reversed, I think there would've been far more flack and attention given to it back when it was airing on tv. What's more disturbing about it is that she's a cop. Edited Tuesday at 09:10 AM by M'Kyuun Quote
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