Slave IV Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 hours ago, IXTL said: Pre-order deadline will be on 22 May. What was the deadline for the 31J parts? Seems like that was available for order on NY up to about a month before release? Is the deadline just for Bandai's shop and it will still be available at NY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I have an extra lil draken set on PO if anyone needs one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 38 minutes ago, anubis20 said: I have an extra lil draken set on PO if anyone needs one I'd take it but i wouldn't be able to pay for it right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dex Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, anubis20 said: I have an extra lil draken set on PO if anyone needs one Tempted. Though the main reason I haven't ordered is the price, which I wouldn't expect you to lesson since it is new. Also I am not all that interested in the lil'Drakens... I more want the missile packs and the sword. What is the price roughly in USD anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Master Dex said: What is the price roughly in USD anyway? Google says Y8424 is $75.71. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dex Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, no3Ljm said: Google says Y8424 is $75.71. Yikes... a bit higher than I hoped... especially when I'm not interested in the little planes, heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 You could try selling the Lil Drakens and keeping the missile pods, sword and shield. Yeah it's a low chance anyone will bite but you might get lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Am liking the display options with the lil draken stands. Buzzing around keith, or even acting as a shield b4 the snipe killshot thru the 31F canopy. Get enough of it and you can have a mini squadron in v formation in front of the drakens...that is if your wallet can support it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy NYK Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 16 hours ago, no3Ljm said: So lame, Bandai. Always has a way with 'clear support mechanism' as the last resort. This should've been thought out from the toy design phase. Not sure how long the swivel joint will hold if the Lil Drakens were left there in Gerwalk or Battroid modes. For sure, Bandai will make another lame 'clear support' for Gerwalk and Battroid modes. Yup, my concern is on the swivel, not the fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Looks like the lil drakens are still available at NY so that 5/22 date was wrong or maybe by the end of the day they will stop. Seems odd considering how long all the other exclusive preorders stayed open but whatever the case I ordered mine just in case. Wanted to wait until the last min which should be months from now but at least it's out of the way along with the 31F parts I ordered together with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Slave IV said: Looks like the lil drakens are still available at NY so that 5/22 date was wrong or maybe by the end of the day they will stop. Seems odd considering how long all the other exclusive preorders stayed open but whatever the case I ordered mine just in case. Wanted to wait until the last min which should be months from now but at least it's out of the way along with the 31F parts I ordered together with it. The deadline is correct, it is just that NY must have ordered a lot extra and let it stay open a longer. From my observation, the 31J super parts is still available to order a month before the release date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 11:02 PM, IXTL said: yeah that is pretty sh!t eh.. that clear part looks like total crap and I wouldn't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atheonyirh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Gotta be honest, I can't find a reason to be bothered by the clear support pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 40 minutes ago, chyll2 said: The deadline is correct, it is just that NY must have ordered a lot extra and let it stay open a longer. From my observation, the 31J super parts is still available to order a month before the release date. Yeah, the 31J armors, HMR missiles, Milia and most other ones I can think of all stayed open until about a month before release if I remember correctly. Anyways, not messing around and missing the preorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 About 5.5 hours left to preorder those super parts. 2300hrs May22nd Japan time is cutoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Atheonyirh said: Gotta be honest, I can't find a reason to be bothered by the clear support pieces. I guess it comes down to personal preference but I simply don't like the fact that they needed to add a piece like that to counter a design deficiency that shouldn't have been there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 53 minutes ago, spanner said: I guess it comes down to personal preference but I simply don't like the fact that they needed to add a piece like that to counter a design deficiency that shouldn't have been there in the first place. +1. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Weird that they put such great foresight in the 31 design but not the sv-262. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sandman said: Weird that they put such great foresight in the 31 design but not the sv-262. yeah you can tell where the majority of the love went in to.. or more so the 262 design was a bit more adventurous to achieve perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 The 262 is crazy complicated. Unfortunate it's not perfect but also not terribly surprising. V2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobytrap Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Yeah it should have had a better design but it doesn't impact me either way. I don't ever plan on attaching the lil ones anyway. Looks much better with them as ghost drones flying in formation with the 262. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Pretty sad that they had alllll that unused surface down the front panel of the leg to secure the wing panels to, and they decided to go with a single tab on the one part of the entire wing that needs to move for the drones to mount. The models didn't even use a tab on the wing, they had locking pins up and down the full length of the shin. The hinges also have an extra notch to pull the wingtips inwards past vertical so you can mount the drones while on the landing gear. Course, the models are also pretty fragile, and the long panels holding the wings are especially prone to stress fractures, so they're both pretty mixed bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Unless Bandai has already made a bad version of something once before or another company has already done it once or twice and worked out the quirks Bandai can never get their first Macross outing correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 What about the 31? Seems loved universally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 31 is full win the first time but they really gotta put a knuckle in that trigger finger. The 262 is still really cool with a couple weak spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't necessarily agree that the YF-30 was their first try since it's so different (and was similarly well done I think), but they did seem to pretty much nail the design itself (for better or for worse, considering the "landing gear"). The execution of certain parts is still a little lackluster I think, but the overall design may be the best "first try" for any Macross design so far. We're getting to the point where everything is designed in computers though, and you can get a nearly direct translation from screen to model/toy (if the engineers are willing to put forth any reasonable effort), so the problems with anime magic are kind of disappearing. Now it's just a matter of how faithfully the physical version reflects the animated one. What gets ugly is when the on-screen stuff is designed with no regard for whether a physical copy is even feasible, much less durable. I don't know if official art exists for all the internal mechanisms of the 262, but the DX is an absolute monstrosity of itty-bitty hinges and pivots, all of variable tension, that are all supposed to move together and line up somehow. It's a beautiful design, and I love it, but the engineering behind the 1/72 model is several orders of magnitude simpler, and just as effective. Bandai's DX engineers just have an uncontrollable fetish for making everything with three or four times the number of pieces necessary to accomplish the design goal. Edited May 22, 2017 by Chronocidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, Chronocidal said: I wouldn't necessarily agree that the YF-30 was their first try since it's so different (and was similarly well done I think), but they did seem to pretty much nail the design itself (for better or for worse, considering the "landing gear"). The execution of certain parts is still a little lackluster I think, but the overall design may be the best "first try" for any Macross design so far. Don't forget the individual 'brackets' for Gerwalk and Battroid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXTL Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 No, the 30 was sloppy in my estimation. The additional external brackets that the 31 easily incorporated is the real big one. Though for a first try they did pretty well. I think the 262 is worse, things are unnecessarily complicsted and they pretty much got Gerwalk mode wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Mommar said: No, the 30 was sloppy in my estimation. The additional external brackets that the 31 easily incorporated is the real big one. Though for a first try they did pretty well. I think the 262 is worse, things are unnecessarily complicsted and they pretty much got Gerwalk mode wrong. How is gerwalk mode wrong? Not being facetious or sarcastic, i genuinely want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I don't know about "wrong" per se, but the massive mess of folding joints in holding the wings on doesn't put the wings in the proper place relative to the arms, if I recall. After building several of the 1/72 models and seeing how much simpler the design can be accomplished, I wish they would have copied it for the DX. they even included locks for the shoulders into the torso in both gerwalk and battroid, which the DX just doesn't even attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universe1010 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 16900 yen http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=FIGURE-023079 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, monishb said: 16900 yen http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=FIGURE-023079 Wow! That's a bargain. I'm tempted for a 2nd one. Seeing the aftermarket prices of the Draken, do you guys think that the 'pope' version will still get made? If so, hope they just do the white one first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Elvis King version you meant ? Hell yeah, we need the white not white knight Draken before the green ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Xigfrid said: Elvis King version you meant ? Hell yeah, we need the white not white knight Draken before the green ones! Yes sir! Roid's White Draken. I prefer that one for my 2nd Draken. And no plans on getting Pope Drakens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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