no3Ljm Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Ok, so I rewatched again the video from antibiotictab with fresh-rested eyes. Just to confirm, heck, to convince myself if the Battroid Support Parts is necessarily to use or just an added option part, well, to pretty hold everything in place. OR worst if it's just a late-added part or an afterthought when they noticed that the nosecone will not hold in place. And here's what I've noticed: After seeing it and thinking about it, I'm still glad that Bandai did something before the product is released. Even if this is an afterthought or late-added option, I'm still glad they did even if it's kinda let down. Since I'm paying for an expensive toy, I just want it to be perfect, but hey, as life have thought me... there's nothing perfect in this world. By the way, I'm still looking forward to see what kind of Option Parts they will offer soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saburo Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Ok, so I rewatched again the video from antibiotictab with fresh-rested eyes. Just to confirm, heck, to convince myself if the Battroid Support Parts is necessarily to use or just an added option part, well, to pretty hold everything in place. OR worst if it's just a late-added part or an afterthought when they noticed that the nosecone will not hold in place. And here's what I've noticed: nosecone_snapshot_01.jpg nosecone_snapshot_02.jpg nosecone_snapshot_03.jpg nosecone_snapshot_04.jpgnosecone_snapshot_05.jpg nosecone_snapshot_06.jpg nosecone_snapshot_07.jpg nosecone_snapshot_08.jpg nosecone_snapshot_09.jpg nosecone_snapshot_10.jpg nosecone_snapshot_11.jpg After seeing it and thinking about it, I'm still glad that Bandai did something before the product is released. Even if this is an afterthought or late-added option, I'm still glad they did even if it's kinda let down. Since I'm paying for an expensive toy, I just want it to be perfect, but hey, as life have thought me... there's nothing perfect in this world. By the way, I'm still looking forward to see what kind of Option Parts they will offer soon. Thank you no3ljm for the video analysis. That note on the support part being black on the last image, is that what was said in the video? As for the supports, I am ok with the support pieces. Its not optimal but I am glad Bandai did something about it before release. Edited July 7, 2014 by Saburo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Glad I'm only buying this for the fighter mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Thank you no3ljm for the video analysis. That note on the support part being black on the last image, is that what was said in the video? As for the supports, I am ok with the support pieces. Its not optimal but I am glad Bandai did something about it before release. Nah. Sorry about that, Saburo. I'm just throwing a sarcastic remark on them for the final 'black' support parts since what they've shown on the instruction video was purple-colored ones. Hahaha! I guess, from what you've read and thinking that it WAS from them, it shows that we've been FOOLED again by Bandai. Hahaha! By the way, you're welcome. Glad I'm only buying this for the fighter mode. Sure you're not gonna transform it not even once for your amusement esp since it has a different transformation sequence? Edited July 7, 2014 by no3ljm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saburo Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Nah. Sorry about that, Saburo. I'm just throwing a sarcastic remark on them for the final 'black' support parts since what they've shown on the instruction video was purple-colored ones. Hahaha! I guess, from what you've read and thinking that it WAS from them, it shows that we've been FOOLED again by Bandai. Hahaha! By the way, you're welcome. Sure you're not gonna transform it not even once for your amusement esp since it has a different transformation sequence? Haha, thanks for the clarification. I am just being hopeful the pieces will be molded in black. If does come in molded in gun pod purple, I will have to paint them black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Sure you're not gonna transform it not even once for your amusement esp since it has a different transformation sequence? Every time I do that to a bandai valk that I've decided not to transform? The parts go all explodey, and I'm left with a pile of debris (I'm looking at you, VF-171CF..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 The 171CF was just junk. Be interested to see if the Luca is as high quality haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Ok, so I rewatched again the video from antibiotictab with fresh-rested eyes. Just to confirm, heck, to convince myself if the Battroid Support Parts is necessarily to use or just an added option part, well, to pretty hold everything in place. OR worst if it's just a late-added part or an afterthought when they noticed that the nosecone will not hold in place. And here's what I've noticed: *snip* After seeing it and thinking about it, I'm still glad that Bandai did something before the product is released. Even if this is an afterthought or late-added option, I'm still glad they did even if it's kinda let down. Since I'm paying for an expensive toy, I just want it to be perfect, but hey, as life have thought me... there's nothing perfect in this world. By the way, I'm still looking forward to see what kind of Option Parts they will offer soon. Very interesting, thanks for sharing the breakdown. Not really rage-worthy but definitely in the realm of "par for the course" with Bandai. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wm cheng Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Glad I'm only buying this for the fighter mode. SAME HERE! The 171CF was just junk. Be interested to see if the Luca is as high quality haha I certainly hope so, but then again, my CF is always staying in its fighter mode as well, just transformed it once I first got it to see and now its back in its default mode (I can see stress/cracks, but still everything is intact. Funny, there were absolutely no stress/cracks after I transformed it the first time (even though I was specifically looking for them, they developed on their own after sitting in my glass display case motion-less). Luca will stay in its fighter mode as well, I do love that blade hanging down like Yukikaze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) The 171CF was just junk. Be interested to see if the Luca is as high quality haha THe 171's werent' junk, they are great when they worked as intended like the early Yammy VF-1's V2's or the VF-0's. Edited July 7, 2014 by Duymon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 THe 171's werent' junk, they are great when they worked as intended like the early Yammy VF-1's V2's or the VF-0's.*snip* Well to be fair, some of those were junk too. But that said, if your 171's are holding up then that means there's some hope that not all of them are going to have disintegrating parts. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 They are great as long as you don't transform them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Why do you think there are nine of them? Lol the alto ones though are awesome. Totally stable and non exploding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidweezil Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Am I the only one not at all bothered by having to add the brace to battroid mode? I display my valks in a glass case, brace or no brace really makes no difference to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyD Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Am I the only one not at all bothered by having to add the brace to battroid mode? I display my valks in a glass case, brace or no brace really makes no difference to me. No. No you are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Am I the only one not at all bothered by having to add the brace to battroid mode? I display my valks in a glass case, brace or no brace really makes no difference to me. Actually I'm not. But in all honesty, I'm somehow disappointed. Seeing those promotional pictures at first from months ago, you can tell that it's a cool-looking Battroid figure. Only to find out a month prior of its release date they will show that 'hey, by the way, you also need to put this support bracket as well.' So from that illusion, it kinda destroyed the concept of how good or cool-looking the Battroid was from the promo pix. Yes, using it will help a lot. BUT wouldn't be nice if they already show that at first so everyone has ideas somehow how the Battroid WILL really look like after we purchased it. What bothers me the most is Bandai should have learned a thing or two from Yamato. Bandai somehow already copied the transformation sequence on the VF-19 Hi-Metal, why they couldn't copy how Yamato's VF-4G nosecone and cockpit block locks together? I'm sure a folding white joint peg under the nosecone is possible but I'm not sure why they just ignored it. I remember this was promoted like it's a new 'simplified-transformation' sequence. But never announced that there will be a supporting add-on part. It's really is a mixed feeling from other members since some members here wants something perfect in transformation with no removing big or swapping important parts. And some is just content on what they're going to get. Count me as one of the latter. I'm still glad that they did add that thing to support it. But disappointed since I was fooled again by their marketing strategy. This time I really wish that the support bracket part will not look out of place or out of design when it placed on the Battroid. I don't want to see some plastic bar that looks like just a normal display stand adaptors. If it's going to add some added designs to the side of the Battroid, then I'm going to be happy. I just remembered how everyone was so intense during the P.O. stages, and look where we are now... half-excited and half-dissapointed already. And the figure is NOT even released yet. Anyways, that's just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidweezil Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I just remembered how everyone was so intense during the P.O. stages, and look where we are now... half-excited and half-dissapointed already. And the figure is NOT even released yet. I think that this is pretty much business as usual on MacrossWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULessa Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'm actually glad they did something to ADD stability to the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 To me the battroid bracket is no different from the fast pack brackets on the v2 vf-1's. Those drive me totally nuts as they kill the fighter and gerwalk side profiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 To me the battroid bracket is no different from the fast pack brackets on the v2 vf-1's. Those drive me totally nuts as they kill the fighter and gerwalk side profiles Thank you. I still don't know why they did that, the 1/48 had METAL attachment points---they were stiff and secure in my experience. And nigh-invisible! It's the only place where the v2 1/60 is worse than the 1/48. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 IMO the 1/60 FP brackets are very well implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Very interesting, thanks for sharing the breakdown. Not really rage-worthy but definitely in the realm of "par for the course" with Bandai. -b. No problem. You're welcome. Just trying to figuring out too since besides the support part I'm also concern on the durability of the swiveling waist part so I'm curious on dissecting the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidweezil Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Thank you. I still don't know why they did that, the 1/48 had METAL attachment points---they were stiff and secure in my experience. And nigh-invisible! It's the only place where the v2 1/60 is worse than the 1/48. I think the V2 fast-pack brackets were implemented to avoid the infamous 1/48 BP8 (backpack/tail hinge) breakage issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I think the V2 fast-pack brackets were implemented to avoid the infamous 1/48 BP8 (backpack/tail hinge) breakage issue. I never had that issue and I had a lot of fast-packed 1/48 VF-1's back in the day. However, I always removed the FP's before and after transformation. This Vs This It was a big step back for me which is why I didn't buy a 1/60 v2 until last year after I decided I really wanted a VF-1 to match my frontier valks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaitouSad Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 To me the battroid bracket is no different from the fast pack brackets on the v2 vf-1's. Those drive me totally nuts as they kill the fighter and gerwalk side profiles Except for the VF-1 it is an add-on, which is forgiveable given that it was to hold the Fast Packs on the VF-1. Does it look realistic? Nope, but at least it was only used for the Fast Packs. For the YF-30, it seemingly is integral to hold it in Battroid mode.. or at least prevent the wang from flopping down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'll admit, I never had a problem with the VF-1 fast pack bracket, because the 1/48 packs always scared the crap out of me that I was going to snap off the backpack. Even in-universe though, the idea of that backpack hinge being so strong that it can just hold all that weight and thrust just feels wrong somehow. I know, overtechnology and everything, but it still looks like a really questionable way to mount something that heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 In-universe, I figure the hinge isn't the only thing holding the backpack on, that there's additional latches etc at the front and center of the backpack that plug into the fighter's "spine", when the transformation is complete. Kind of like how the leg intake swing-bars are only for transformation, and aren't the main latch/joint holding things on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 i disagree... the vf-1 v.2 is perfect. in every way the yf-30 is now a parts former an "attach-former" w/ that back brace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Eh, when you consider that the legs are held on by a small shaft going through the nose, I guess the backpack is pretty beefy by comparison. I guess I just like being able to pick up the VF-1s by their packs without worrying something will break. The 1/48 always felt dangerous to hold there, since the backpack was held down by that tiny hook in the backplate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 After some thought, this isn't a biggie for me since I'll have this in Fighter Mode anyway. The Battroid Mode did grow on me but I won't have space to display it that anyway...so back brace or not it won't make any difference. I also see the pro's of added stability and con's of why the hell wasn't this designed to eliminate the need for a brace to begin with. But oh well, such is life with regards to Macross collecting. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzaffar Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I have never transformed any of my Valks and probably never will. The YF-30 will be no exception espicially with such a beautiful fighter mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 August, WHY YO SO FAR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 August, WHY YO SO FAR! Not THAT far; besides, don't know about you, but I could use a breather... or at least my wallet could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Sometimes i have problems getting the bracket far enough up... so that the peg on the side of the booster fits into the folder pack. But it goes in you jiggle a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 THe 171's werent' junk, they are great when they worked as intended like the early Yammy VF-1's V2's or the VF-0's. sheesh!! that's a lot of 171 love right there! the one of two Valks im most likely never gonna buy.. the 17 & 171.. but still great photos though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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