Ghost Train Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Scenario: it is 2013. Humanity miraculously survived the 2012 Mayan Zombie Alien Nibiru Invasion Apocalypse, . . Astro Plan has won an academy award for best foreign animated film. We are still waiting for HL2 episode 3.... but Shoji Kawamori has gone further into the deep end, Macross will be rebooted. If it happened, what would you like to see differently? Stay the same? Which characters would you keep, modify, or just eliminate completely like poor Nanase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robelwell202 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Oh, boy... Where to begin? 1) Destroids play a larger role in the series, not just cannon fodder. 2) Keep all animation production in-house, don't farm it out. 3) Use a combination of CG and Cell animation for SDF:Mac (Like Macross Frontier and Macross Zero) 4) If there needs to be a Minmay, keep her a secondary character, please. 5) Destroids play a larger role, not just cannon fodder. (Did I mention this, already? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 nothing, I hate reboots/remakes that are not necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 4) If there needs to be a Minmay, keep her a secondary character, please. If? IF??? No Minmay = not Macross. And, um...I agree with Valkyrie addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akt_m Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Keep the same with better designs and animation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 They should make it longer, maybe closer to 85 episodes or so. And they need to make more stuff transform; jets and space ships are fine, but how about motorcycles? or helicopters? And take out all the junk about protoculture being some sort of ancient alien civilization, how stupid is that. also Minmay needs to be more of a slut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 They should make it longer, maybe closer to 85 episodes or so. And they need to make more stuff transform; jets and space ships are fine, but how about motorcycles? or helicopters? And take out all the junk about protoculture being some sort of ancient alien civilization, how stupid is that. also Minmay needs to be more of a slut. I totally agree with you about Protoculture, but I'm not sure what they should turn it into. My first thought was that it should be a fuel...but on further reflection, I'm thinking it should be some kind of hallucinogenic drug. Or it could be something like the Force, that could guide and "shape" events in a mystical sort of way. I dunno...whaddya think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 How about make Protoculture a plant that is also a fuel source? Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Deep end... deep end... deep end... Oh, and we're off it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Train Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) On the mechanical side, one thing I'd do differently is to eliminate battroid mode and modify gerwalk. First, battroid - other than shooting missiles in style and mecha kung-fu serve very little tactical value. It makes more sense for tactical battroids that specialize in hand-to hand and combat on solid ground. Perhaps even transformable ground mechs. The DC-5 Lotto from Gundam Unicorn for instance looks pretty sweet and specialized for this role. Gerwalk can be a dedicated space-fighter and the legs basically solve the problem of space-fighters in general, which is the need to exert thrust in a variety of directions, lacking the strong gravitational pull of a celestial body. Also, 2 modes probably makes high quality toy design easier. Edited February 1, 2010 by Ghost Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 nothing, I hate reboots/remakes that are not necessary Yah know....I'm gonna authorize the public stoning of anyone who's even going to suggest a remake/reboot. Are we that creatively impaired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Train Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 /Erects the anti-stoning heretic shield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Don't mess with the Original series, NO Reboots!!! As for Graham, you've been watching to much RT again..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 How about make Protoculture a plant that is also a fuel source? Graham BRILLIANT!! Now just combine that with my earlier suggestins of making it an hallucinogenic drug and a mystical force, and we've got something REALLY great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 /Erects the anti-stoning heretic shield Did I say stoning? I meant "open season". Fishing lines, rifles, nets, etc.. You name it, it's legal. How about some variable tanks???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 How about some variable tanks???? I wanna see a ten-foot-tall bald chick who's married to a giant slug. That'd be COOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 No reboots! Macross is awesome as is! But if I did....my vote would be for no Basara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robelwell202 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 If? IF??? No Minmay = not Macross. And, um...I agree with Valkyrie addict. Okay... I'm in complete agreement with you all, about Macross being damn good as is. However, this thread did ask a hypothetical question, something along the lines of fantasy, so I answered as honestly as I could... Besides, Minmay as a secondary character is a low priority, as you can see. My highest priority would be something else entirely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I wanna see a ten-foot-tall bald chick who's married to a giant slug. That'd be COOL! know what's even cooler? three words... Floating... Robot... Torsos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Besides, Minmay as a secondary character is a low priority, as you can see. My highest priority would be something else entirely... Minmay looks better in shower scenes than Destroids do. She also looks better in white skirts with green polka dots. know what's even cooler? three words... Floating... Robot... Torsos... OOOOH, that's TERRIFYING! You know what would be even scarier? If we had them wearing tattered cloaks, which they throw off to reveal that they're just torsos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robelwell202 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Minmay looks better in shower scenes than Destroids do. She also looks better in white skirts with green polka dots. You'll get absolutely no argument from me on this point. Perhaps I may want to rethink the Minmay-as-a-secondary-character idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Oh, boy... Where to begin? 1) Destroids play a larger role in the series, not just cannon fodder. background designs should stay in the background 2) Keep all animation production in-house, don't farm it out. this is stupid and unrealistic. it doesn't even guarantee quality 5) Destroids play a larger role, not just cannon fodder. (Did I mention this, already? ) just go watch dougram if you want that stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane70 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 The most I'd ever want is for the original TV series to be reanimated using the DYRL style. Everything else would stay the same, except for maybe having the Zentradi speaking Zentradi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulagu Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) The devastation of Earth humanity needs to be less complete than portrayed in DYRL or the series. Even with mass assimilation of Zentradi and ?human cloning?, the ability to pull off regular immigration fleets without completely depopulating the planet seems fairly improbable. The fugly VF-4 battroid needs to be reworked so it doesn't look like a design afterthought, possibly as the YF-4. Also, it needs to show up in the series proper since it is operational by Flashback 2012. (There's a valkyrie model of it sitting around Hikaru's room in the series IIRC, but that doesn't really count). Edited February 1, 2010 by hulagu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulagu Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) I totally agree with you about Protoculture, but I'm not sure what they should turn it into. My first thought was that it should be a fuel...but on further reflection, I'm thinking it should be some kind of hallucinogenic drug. Or it could be something like the Force, that could guide and "shape" events in a mystical sort of way. I dunno...whaddya think? It can be all of the above, while also being the transmuted form of a ancient forgotten civilization (which explains the sentience). There, problem solved, LOL. For extra fun, make the ancient forgotten civilization the inhabitants of the original pre-reboot universe. Edited February 1, 2010 by hulagu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freiflug88 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Scenario: it is 2013. Humanity miraculously survived the 2012 Mayan Zombie Alien Nibiru Invasion Apocalypse, . . Astro Plan has won an academy award for best foreign animated film. We are still waiting for HL2 episode 3.... but Shoji Kawamori has gone further into the deep end, Macross will be rebooted. If it happened, what would you like to see differently? Stay the same? Which characters would you keep, modify, or just eliminate completely like poor Nanase. I would go with the hypothetical Alien Nibru Invasion scenario of 2012 and have the aliens from Nibiru turn out to be the giants of Nevilliam of Biblical tales. That way in 2013 Nibiru actors can be hired to accurately portray Zentradi in a Live action reboot of the Macross series followed by the movies Macross DYRL and Macross: The Plan, which will chronicle the events directly from the Zentradi perspective. It would also be an awesome case of our reality catching up to the science fiction of Macross. 1) Destroids play a larger role in the series, not just cannon fodder. I would like to see that and more UN Spacey mecha versus Zentradi foot soldiers in trench, hallway, and hand-to-hand combat. also Minmay needs to be more of a slut. Absolutely. Just listening to "My Frak friend is a pilot", "Its my time to be a Pornstar", and "Zero G-strings" just wasn't enough, the music should have been synced to action sequences that actually fit the lyrics. The only question is do I cast Lindsey Lohan as Minmay or Misa for my LAM? No wait Of course! I will just cast her as both characters, she has played as twins before after all. Besides no Macross Love triangles has involved twins yet, and everything is better with twins as they say. I also say why stop at Minmay? I say put more Frak'n sex in the whole show. - Rather then have couples Hikaru/Misa, Kaifun/Minmay, and Max/Milia simply stop at First Base in their demonstrations of culture, have them go for Home runs. - As his name impies have Max be the characteristic genius who somehow ends up in huge orgies that would make Roy envious, until he becomes attracted to Caprica Miria Clone 6 and her sexy red dress of course. - Have UN Spacey Engineers find a way to reprogram Macronization chambers to only enlarge certain body parts as a more natural alternative to plastic surgery. - And of course add a lot more Daedalus attacks, causes its the best mecha porn ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robelwell202 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) background designs should stay in the background this is stupid and unrealistic. it doesn't even guarantee quality just go watch dougram if you want that stuff Uh, excuse me... I do believe the original poster asked what we'd like to see, and I answered his question... Let me look it up... If it happened, what would you like to see differently? Stay the same? Which characters would you keep, modify, or just eliminate completely like poor Nanase. So, there you go.... Edited February 1, 2010 by Robelwell202 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myersjessee Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Okay...so here is my idea. Galactica, the original series took a horrible race threatening event and made it into a fun campy sitcom. Galactica reinvisioned was dark, a lot more realistic, and a lot more representative of a race on the edge of extinction. I'd love to see Macross rebooted in a similar fashion. Scenario...world is at war destroying itself...then attacked by giant aliens with incredible Technology. We have essentially one chance to keep them from destroying us...we dont understand them. I think it could make for an excellent differnt darker view. Oh, and also stealing from Galactica, I want to see ships in space fight much more like ships can fight in space. 180's on a dime...overuse of vectoring thrusters big time please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane70 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Oh, and also stealing from Galactica, I want to see ships in space fight much more like ships can fight in space. 180's on a dime...overuse of vectoring thrusters big time please. Galactica wasn't the first to use vectoring thrusters in space fights. In fact, Macross actually did it in DYRL (1984). Also not to forget, the Earth Alliance fighters in Babylon 5 also used vectoring thrusters (1993-98). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Robot Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 How about make Protoculture a plant that is also a fuel source? Graham I like where you're going with this, but how about a floor wax that is also a dessert topping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechinyun Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) A remake, but same designs, characters and story, almost shot for shot, with all hand drawn animation done by the best, setting a new WOW standard for animation quality. I would be ok with a few addition scenes here and there that just were not possible back in the day for what ever reason. Going out on a limb Maybe even have mimi's (forgot her name) voice record the songs remixed sounding more current, a "remixed" score by her. Edited February 1, 2010 by Mechinyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastaEgg Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'd like to see another animation studio's take on the franchise. Satellite's good at animating mecha but I find their character animation rather dull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCOLMRNE Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Promote Roy to a full bird Colonel. He has been a Major since Macros Zero!! There is no way a Major/Lt. Commander can be a CAG a nd not be a Colonel/Captain. I wish Mr Kawamori made a series based on the colony conflicts during 2040s so I can see some VF-11 action!! I know, Macross Plus OVA1 was just not enough! and god Macross 7 doesnt count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN_MARINE Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 They should add a new character! He'd be flying a special VF-1 w/ dark brown accents & has 3 head lasers. Although... an animated version of "Macross the First" would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'd like Minmay to not lose out in the end. At least if she's as cool as DYRL Minmay. SDF Minmay sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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