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She ain't no Headhunter. The Headhunter has only 1 fixed wing.

we realize that but were talking about that ship being "morphed" into the headhunter. kind of like the new JSF(jedi starfighter) that anakins piloting....kind looks like a cross between the JSF from epi2 and a tie from the OT.

i think its rather cool how lucas is going about introducing new ships. i can't wait to see what the y-wing going to look like....brand new that is. :p

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how was anakin supposed to bring balance to the force, since supposedly all the sith had been killed and the Jedi already dominated everything?

The light side and the dark side are the two extremes of the force. The Jedi are imbalanced because during the thousands of years of Republic rule, the Jedi dominated the Force in the galaxy. All light, no dark.

As the Old Republic Aged, the bureaucracy grew to such proportions that the government of the Republic was nearly immobilized by it. The Jedi also helped rule this philosophy promoting a path that went one direction only, with no real opposition. In the end, the Old Republic destroyed itself due to its own inaction.

This is true of all systems of government. Our own system of government works on checks and balances. Not just legal checks and balances, but also ideological. When our modern systems of democracy function at their peak, the two sides of our society (liberal and conservative) must compromise for each side to obtain what they want. Allow one side too obtain complete control and eliminate the voice of other, you get a paralyzed bureaucracy or an oppressive dictatorship.

Anakin's role was to balance the equation, as the prophecy of the Jedi Order predicted. This was done by diminishing the thousand year rule of the light side and put an end to the stagnation of the old Republic. Anakin then pushed the galaxy into the far dark and thus an equally imbalanced regime was created. Upon Anakin's death, the emperor was killed at his hands, the empire was destoryed, and the galactic political landscape was equalized and balanced. This left nothing except the free people of the galaxy, which we hope created a new and better society.

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how was anakin supposed to bring balance to the force, since supposedly all the sith had been killed and the Jedi already dominated everything?

Think about that, and how the whole Star Wars story pans out. You've actually answered your own question.

Damn, looks like Radd beat me to it. But it never hurts to explain the whole thing in detail :)

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The light side and the dark side are the two extremes of the force.  The Jedi are imbalanced because during the thousands of years of Republic rule, the Jedi dominated the Force in the galaxy.  All light, no dark.

No, not quite. Lucas himself has said something to the effect that the Jedi use the Force with it's balance in mind. The Sith OTOH, are only interested in their own power and use the Force only for their own benefit.

Think of the Jedi as "conservationist" and the Sith as "polluters."

The imbalance in the Force that "The Chosen One" is meant to balance is that created by the Darth Sidious. It's the reason Mace Windu talks with Yoda about the Jedi losing their ability to use the Force and Dooku about the Dark Side clouding the Jedi vision... Darth Sidious is sucking up all the mojo for his own benefit, and weaking the Jedi at the same time.

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The light side and the dark side are the two extremes of the force.  The Jedi are imbalanced because during the thousands of years of Republic rule, the Jedi dominated the Force in the galaxy.  All light, no dark.

No, not quite. Lucas himself has said something to the effect that the Jedi use the Force with it's balance in mind. The Sith OTOH, are only interested in their own power and use the Force only for their own benefit.

Think of the Jedi as "conservationist" and the Sith as "polluters."

The imbalance in the Force that "The Chosen One" is meant to balance is that created by the Darth Sidious. It's the reason Mace Windu talks with Yoda about the Jedi losing their ability to use the Force and Dooku about the Dark Side clouding the Jedi vision... Darth Sidious is sucking up all the mojo for his own benefit, and weaking the Jedi at the same time.

The Jedi are the defacto power pre-empire as it were and regardless of whatever balance each individual Jedi may seek in his own personal power/skills, the Jedi have a monopoly on the force in the SW galaxy. And that side is light.

The force isn't just a power affecting those few sensitive users. The force is described as a common universality created by all living organisms ("an energy field created by all living beings"). No one can escape being affected by it and by default, an imbalance in the force is not exclusive to the Jedi and Sith fighting each other. The ramafications are much broader than that. Hence the Old Republic shares the same imbalance as the Jedi. The Republic government is a one sided mess and it's terrible weaknesses are obvious as a result.

As such, Sidious is not the imbalance of the force. The Jedi prophecy has been around as long as the Jedi Order have. And why is that? The Jedi destroyed the Sith and have been ruling with the light side for thousands of years. One perspective, one point of view, one side to the quation. The force has been imbalanced all along, ever since light gained dominance over dark.

As the imbalance begins to fades, the monopolistic power of the light side is diminished and brought back into a more equalized share of the force. It then swings extreme dark for a short time (reign of the empire) and then is finally equalized yet again at the end of the six episode saga. Whether it would have swung back and forth yet again in episodes 7-9, we'll never know. However, Lucas has said the complete tale of Darth Vade will go through beginning, middle, and end once the prequels and the OT are told as one story.

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great pics, that first pic of episode 3 in book form, Vaders helmet looks funny like it is to long. the space battle sequence looks great, alittle cluttered in the still picture but when everything is moving on the big screen it should look great. i am hopeful for this movie I hope we end this new trilogy with a good note.

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Whoops, I missed one.

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Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith

The novelization of the final Star Wars film adapts the story of Anakin's fall to the dark side. Novelist Matthew Stover met with George Lucas to discuss the storyline of the film. As a result, the novel includes all new sequences that won't be found in movie theaters. But more importantly, Stover gets inside the heads of the characters, and depicts these dramatic events from their points of view. This book will be released in hardcover with simultaneous audio release on CD and cassette.

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The light side and the dark side are the two extremes of the force.  The Jedi are imbalanced because during the thousands of years of Republic rule, the Jedi dominated the Force in the galaxy.  All light, no dark.

No, not quite. Lucas himself has said something to the effect that the Jedi use the Force with it's balance in mind. The Sith OTOH, are only interested in their own power and use the Force only for their own benefit.

Think of the Jedi as "conservationist" and the Sith as "polluters."

The imbalance in the Force that "The Chosen One" is meant to balance is that created by the Darth Sidious. It's the reason Mace Windu talks with Yoda about the Jedi losing their ability to use the Force and Dooku about the Dark Side clouding the Jedi vision... Darth Sidious is sucking up all the mojo for his own benefit, and weaking the Jedi at the same time.

The Jedi are the defacto power pre-empire as it were and regardless of whatever balance each individual Jedi may seek in his own personal power/skills, the Jedi have a monopoly on the force in the SW galaxy. And that side is light.

The force isn't just a power affecting those few sensitive users. The force is described as a common universality created by all living organisms ("an energy field created by all living beings"). No one can escape being affected by it and by default, an imbalance in the force is not exclusive to the Jedi and Sith fighting each other. The ramafications are much broader than that. Hence the Old Republic shares the same imbalance as the Jedi. The Republic government is a one sided mess and it's terrible weaknesses are obvious as a result.

As such, Sidious is not the imbalance of the force. The Jedi prophecy has been around as long as the Jedi Order have. And why is that? The Jedi destroyed the Sith and have been ruling with the light side for thousands of years. One perspective, one point of view, one side to the quation. The force has been imbalanced all along, ever since light gained dominance over dark.

As the imbalance begins to fades, the monopolistic power of the light side is diminished and brought back into a more equalized share of the force. It then swings extreme dark for a short time (reign of the empire) and then is finally equalized yet again at the end of the six episode saga. Whether it would have swung back and forth yet again in episodes 7-9, we'll never know. However, Lucas has said the complete tale of Darth Vade will go through beginning, middle, and end once the prequels and the OT are told as one story.

Mr March or anyone, can you clarify something for me then? Mr March said that the imbalance in the force was due to the dominance of the Jedi during the times of the Old Republic and by the Sith during the reign of the Empire. Balance was returned with the demise of Vader and the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. But isn't it really still imbalanced, since there are no Sith and two Jedi? Technically, you could count 3 more Jedi, if Yoda, Obiwan, and Anakin are able to materialize at will and influence the outcome of events (such as Obiwan did with Luke). Also, in the EU, don't Luke and Leia create a new Jedi academy? Wouldn't this further serve to imbalance the Force towards the light side again?

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all i know on the star destroyer thing is that the super star destroyer will be in it. look at the photo archives on the special features disc from the OT box set. nice big pic of the SSD EXECUTOR bridge saying that it had been rebuilt for use in the film.

that new jedi starfighter looks "neat" and i can see where lucas is trying to match the mechanical look of the 2 trilogies but i think that the old fighter from epi2 was just fine. hes doing the usual adding a new vehicle or character into the film with every new movie bit.

general grevious is the perfect example of that. cool big badass but essentially he seems useless to the movement of the story. we didnt see him in the other movies so why now. a character thats touted as being as important as he is should have been included in some way into epi2 at least to show us whats in store.

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found a few more pics do not know if you have seen them, looks a little to much CGI almost like a video game , but it is real

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Anakin fighting Dooku with the Emperor in the background, (cool) very similar to the end of the first trilogy, notice the star destroyers in the background as well,

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