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What is it with giant heads on Takara Megatrons?  Cartoon accuracy probably doesn't need to be adhered to so slavishly when you're working from bad '80s cells and bad '90s CGI.

Side note, I could have sworn Cordon already had a name, so I'm digging around and I realize I was remembering a police Countach, but it was based on Sideswipe/Red Alert.  Now I have MP-14C Clampdown on the way. ^_^

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1 hour ago, mikeszekely said:

Side note, I could have sworn Cordon already had a name, so I'm digging around and I realize I was remembering a police Countach, but it was based on Sideswipe/Red Alert.  Now I have MP-14C Clampdown on the way. ^_^

I did the exact same thing when I heard about Cordon. And if Cordon never comes to pass, hey, I get a cool transformable police Countach!

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Pics of painted Cordon. Also, it appears Takara hasn't forgotten the G1 toy crowd, MP29+ and MP36+. Both releases were already toon accurate at release, these ones are G1 toy accurate, the dark purple Shockwave many longed for, and a silver Megatron with the toy head, chest, and red legs. No new G1 release though :(. Masterpiece Beast Wars Megatron was absolutely not expected, but definitely welcomed, that thing looks incredible! Plus, he's frakking huge! That price will be nuts! Dinobot was scaring folks, Megatron's price will be sure to cause some discussion, I'm in.

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10 minutes ago, Tking22 said:

dark purple Shockwave

YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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What's up with MP-36+?

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40 minutes ago, jenius said:

What's up with MP-36+?

It's supposed to resemble the G1 toy, with the weird head, yellow eyes, silver paint, swirlies on the chest, and gun barrel on the hip.

As for Shockwave, it's pretty cool that they're doing him in the darker purple toy colors, but I'm quite happy with Quakeblast.

 

EDIT: Cordon is looking hot.  His head is so much better than Sunstreaker's.  The only thing I'm not sure I'm digging is red eyes.  I get that it's Diaclone accurate, but he looks downright evil.  Maybe Cordon should have been a Decepticon?

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36 minutes ago, jenius said:

What's up with MP-36+?

It's a bizarre new direction for the line, to be sure... but the small but vocal toy-accurate crowd will be pleased.

1 hour ago, Tking22 said:

Pics of painted Cordon.

Thanks for sharing.  Love the G1/Diaclone head on Cordon!

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9 hours ago, Valkyrie Hunter D said:

Wow, so much for a MP dry spell. Shockwave will be mine!

It's definitely still a G1 dry spell, just repaints no new G1 releases :(. Baffled it took this long for toy Shockwave, also baffled to see both him and MP-36+ are TT mall exclusives, their prices will be nuts on most sites, MP Shockwave is too expensive as is IMO.

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thats a nice purple on mp toy shockwave....but it ain't g1 toy purple unless.  its probably halfway (well maybe a little more toy) between toy purple and Fantoys OG release quakwave to be honest...

also they made mp-42 a RED EYED autobot?  aside from g1 jetfire...i think thats kinda rare (although i won't claim thats true!).

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5 hours ago, Tking22 said:

It's definitely still a G1 dry spell, just repaints no new G1 releases :(. Baffled it took this long for toy Shockwave, also baffled to see both him and MP-36+ are TT mall exclusives, their prices will be nuts on most sites, MP Shockwave is too expensive as is IMO.

Well, crap.

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With all the excitement over the new MPs I'm guessing that no one really cares about a year-old Deluxe I found shelfwarming at my local Target and only picked up because he's my favorite movieverse Decepticon.  I thought about not posting my thoughts, but truthfully it's late enough that I don't feel like getting into a game but too early to go to bed, so I kind of had nothing better to do.  Here's The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade.

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Right off the bat I'm noticing the size.  Remember that the higher price tags on the Studio Series toys actually started with The Last Knight line, so there's a bit of sticker shock seeing how much smaller he is than the 2007 Deluxe Barricade at double the retail price (and yes, I did put some paint on the ol' 2007 Barricade to make him more movie accurate).  That said, although I very much want a Studio Series Barricade based on the first movie or Dark of the Moon, I suppose TLK Barricade fits with the scale of the Studio Series figures.  While scale is one of the selling points for the Studio Series in my book I think the big draw is that they are also supposed to pretty screen accurate.  When I looked at Megatron he was pretty accurate if you overlooked some vehicle kibble.  Prime needed more paint and likewise had some vehicle kibble not seen in the movie, but I was pretty impressed with the sculpt.  So it's pretty disappointing that Barricade looks so phoned in.  His head sculpt isn't too bad, and they tried to include some molded detail in his feet and shins, but it's like Hasbro didn't even try to get his arms or thighs right.  As for his torso, he's missing some details around the hips, his pelvis isn't too bad, but while the front of his alt mode does form his chest it doesn't transform in any way to more accurately resemble his movie model, so he's lacking his badge.  There's splashes of dark blue paint on a lot of his body, and they did paint the (some of) the lights on his chest, his eyes, and his knees, pretty much the only thing that's right are his knees.  The unpainted gray plastic used for his hips and elbows looks especially bad.

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Scratch that, you know what looks especially bad?  His back kibble.  That's like 30% of his alt mode just hanging on his back, and aside from the doors folding in Hasbro did nothing to minimize it.  Oh, and that non-accurate flap of car behind his head is probably there to hide the fact that only the front of Barricade's head is blue.  The back of his head is the same ugly unpainted gray plastic used for his hips and elbows.

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He at least comes with a decent amount of accessories for a Deluxe-class toy these days.  You've got the ring of arm-mounted guns seen in the movie, plus a pistol and a nightstick that I'm not sure he used in the movie but where definitely present on the character model.  Sadly, the handcuffs that were on his character model are nowhere to be seen.  All of the accessories that are included could have used some paint, but that's probably expecting too much from a Deluxe-class these days.

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Barricade's head is on a ball joint.  It swivels fine, but both lateral and up/down tilt are fairly limited.  His shoulders are on hinged swivels that rotate 360 degrees and move laterally a little less than 90 degrees.  The kibble on his biceps can also rotate so it doesn't interfere with articulation, but at the same time it doesn't lock into any position.  He has bicep swivels just above his elbows, which bend 90 degrees.  His wrists can also swivel, but his waist cannot.  His hips are on ball joints that can kick forward 90 and would be capable of kicking backward 90 degrees were it not for his egregious back kibble.  He can also bend laterally 90 degrees at the hips.  He has thigh swivels, and his knees can bend 90 degrees.  Due to transformation his feet can bend up, but they can't bend down and he lacks any ankle pivots.  It's worth noting here that pretty much every joint on him is pretty loose, even by Hasbro standards.  That made posing him trickier than it strictly needed to be.

He can hold his pistol and nightstick just fine, and yes, his fists do have molded knuckles that have the words "protect" and "serve" mirrored onto them.  At least that detail is movie accurate.  Another movie-accurate detail is that the pistol and nightstick can be stored on his legs, although they use tabs on the sides to fit into slots on his lower thighs instead of clipping into his hip armor.  Alternatively, although I personally don't think it looks so good, the tabs on his weapons can also fit into slots on the outside of his forearms.  The ring of guns can clip around his forearm, movie-style, although doing so limits his ability to hold a weapon in that hand.  If you prefer to stow the launcher, you can put it on his back the same way you would store it in alt mode.

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Speaking of alt modes, Barricade looses even more screen-accuracy points for his car mode because Hasbro didn't bother to license with Ford.  So, he doesn't turn into a Mustang, merely a fictional Mustang-esque car.  The fake car has chunkier proportions, but I suppose still scales alright with Studio Series Bumblebee.  He's still a lot smaller than 2007 Barricade, who actually does turn into a Mustang.

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There's some ways they tried to evoke the movie model.  The lights in the bottom corners of the bumpers and the grill guard are right, as is the grill guard itself, although the actual grill and headlights are all wrong.  The hood still has the two scoops.  He's got white on the door, which properly reads "Police," although the car in the movie didn't have a Decepticon emblem.  He's missing the "867" on the blue below the door and the front of the car, as well as the "911 Emergency Response" behind the front fenders.  Likewise, his roof is similarly lacking numbers and is blue instead of white.  His rear fender, which rides up too high, does have quoted text printed on it, but it reads "to punish and enslave" like his older form does, instead of "keep calm and hail Megatron" seen in the movie.  The worst is his rear, which is off on pretty much every detail from the Mustang in the film, but most obviously is sporting a simple spoiler on the trunk instead of the large wing seen in the movie.

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At least he's got storage for his weapons.  The ring of guns splits open and pegs onto his rear window.  The pistol and nightstick actually plug into the same slots they use for bot mode storage.  In fact, you can transform him between modes without removing any stored accessories.  Kind of makes me wonder why they put slots on his forearms, though.

Like I said at the beginning, I bought Barricade because he's my favorite movie Decepticon.  I can't actually recommend him, though.  The engineering on his just feels lazy- I mean, aside from the ridiculous backpack, I didn't mention earlier that his chest folds down over his head for robot mode but doesn't peg, tab in, or secure there in any way.  His robot mode is inaccurate but ultimately recognizable, but his alt mode looks bad with the licensed alt modes of other movie toys.  But the real nail in Barricade's coffin is Hasbro's price hike.  I didn't mind it with the Studio Series, where the money felt like it was going toward better engineering and screen accuracy and I'd felt like they were some of the best mainstream retail Transformers releases in years.  I tolerated it with TLK Megatron and Optimus, who had their flaws but were both pretty good figures in their own right.  But Barricade feels like the sort of lazy, cheap junk Hasbro's been shoveling out for years now, the sort of junk that's been turning me off of retail Transformers.  And if I'd skipped nearly all of the movie toys after the first one and a number of later Generations releases at $15-ish then $20 for is, frankly, a rip off.

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Back when I reviewed TLK Voyager-class Optimus I said this:

On 5/2/2018 at 1:37 AM, mikeszekely said:

I think I might actually try painting some of this guy.  And you should know that I'm terrible at painting toys, so if I'm willing to try you know I think the paint on this guy is wrong.

Well, I did.  And I'm sure someone with, y'know, talent would probably do a lot better, but I'm pretty happy with how he turned out.  The extra flames are Reprolabels, but everything else is paint from a mix of spray cans, paint pens, and brushing.

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Very clean work, Mike!  Thanks for sharing.  :)

The last movie Optimus I painted was the "Dual Model" kit, and that was years ago...

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PURPLE DINOSAUR! :o

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On 5/11/2018 at 6:45 PM, mikeszekely said:

Back when I reviewed TLK Voyager-class Optimus I said this:

Well, I did.  And I'm sure someone with, y'know, talent would probably do a lot better, but I'm pretty happy with how he turned out.  The extra flames are Reprolabels, but everything else is paint from a mix of spray cans, paint pens, and brushing.

It looks a whole better than it did straight outta the box.

I'm still gonna buy it because transforming police cars are mega cool, but Cordon's pricing took me aback.  Considering that most of the characters I like already have MPs, I dunno if I can buy more with the rising prices.

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On 5/12/2018 at 2:06 AM, tekering said:

The last movie Optimus I painted was the "Dual Model" kit, and that was years ago...

That looks really good!  Did you dry brush the scratches on his knees and shins?  Someday I'm going to take the time to learn to do stuff like that.  Y'know, after my baby girl goes to college or something...

12 minutes ago, Valkyrie Hunter D said:

I'm still gonna buy it because transforming police cars are mega cool, but Cordon's pricing took me aback.  Considering that most of the characters I like already have MPs, I dunno if I can buy more with the rising prices.

I'm in exactly the same boat.  Actually, when I look at my collection and see Quakewave, Despotron, Meteor, the ToyWorld Coneheads, Backdraft, Salus, Sunsurge, Wrestle, Citizen Stack, and Carry representing characters that all have official MPs I think I might be more inclined to buy a 3P figure instead.

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9 hours ago, mikeszekely said:

Did you dry brush the scratches on his knees and shins?

Chipping, dry brushing, LEDs in the abdomen...  I put a lot of love into DMK-01.  :wub:

9 hours ago, mikeszekely said:

I look at my collection and see Quakewave, Despotron, Meteor, the ToyWorld Coneheads, Backdraft, Salus, Sunsurge, Wrestle, Citizen Stack, and Carry representing characters that all have official MPs I think I might be more inclined to buy a 3P figure instead.

I'm less inclined to buy 3P figures now, since I bought the iGear Seekers, the iGear Coneheads, the iGear Specialists, Animus, Quakewave, Backdraft, Wrestle, Apollyon, Sunsurge, and Art Feather Bumblebee, representing characters that didn't have official MPs...

...and then bought MP-11 Starscream, MP-11SW Skywarp, MP-11T Thundercracker, MP-11NR Ramjet, MP-11NT Thrust, MP-11ND Dirge, MP-21 Bumblebee, MP-27 Ironhide, MP-29 Laserwave, MP-30 Ratchet, MP-33 Inferno, MP-35 Grapple, MP-36 Megatron, and MP-39 Sunstreaker.  :mellow:

Anyone want to buy a ton of 3P figures that now have official MPs?  :unsure:

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On 9/5/2018 at 9:22 PM, kanedaestes said:

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Oooh yes! :D

Been waiting for this one for years. Actually, since the first release.

Not big fan of the transformers toy line, but I want this to complete my triplet: Star Saber (my personal favorite), Convoy and Barney on steroids.

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So, I was kinda bored and grabbed a plastic robot off the shelf just to mess with.

Specifically, Trailbreaker/blazer/cutter/whatever. The modern one that doesn't combine. Generations, I think it was?

 

He's just fun to mess with. A transformation that's interesting without being frustrating, that doesn't pack complexity in just for complexity's sake, and he cleans up nicely in both modes. I'm particularly fond of the fold-open forearms.

The gunshield is still a dubious handheld accessory, and I wish the forcefield projector could hide in his armored truck mode(for that matter, I wish it was a camper truck), but all in all, I think he works really well as a modernized Trailbreaker.

The light-piping on his eyes, of course, is basically nonexistent because Hasbro keeps trying to use the trick without sacrificing the look of the head, so light can't ACTUALLY REACH the eye piece. It is even worse than usual here since he's got that big shield emitter rising up behind his head throwing a shadow onto the tiny portal they barely remembered to add(but hey, at least they remembered). That the lightpiping is less than worthless really goes without saying, but I am taking the excuse to gripe at the consistently bad engineering decisions that have gone into mainstream Transformer heads for something like a decade now.

 

 

But there's one thing I've always wondered about this version of this guy... why does he have as many sockets on him as a Centurions figure? Has anyone ever figured out what the thought process was there?

I mean, there's three down his back, both shoulders, both forearms, another pair at his knees, then two more on the back of his shieldgun(which ALSO has three pegs on it). He could equip every gun Cliffjumper owns AT THE SAME TIME. It is a little ridiculous.

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Hmmmm now I’m getting interested in BWs again.

btw anyone noticed that figures are in short supply lately? Every store I’ve got since TRUs announced shut down has come up fairly barren minus studio figures which even those are in short supply. Walmart, target, fredmyers, anywhere with a toy department is virtually empty. One store even had tags on their generations pegs saying “temporarily unavailable”

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7 hours ago, JB0 said:

So, I was kinda bored and grabbed a plastic robot off the shelf just to mess with.

Specifically, Trailbreaker/blazer/cutter/whatever. The modern one that doesn't combine. Generations, I think it was?

 

He's just fun to mess with. A transformation that's interesting without being frustrating, that doesn't pack complexity in just for complexity's sake, and he cleans up nicely in both modes. I'm particularly fond of the fold-open forearms.

The gunshield is still a dubious handheld accessory, and I wish the forcefield projector could hide in his armored truck mode(for that matter, I wish it was a camper truck), but all in all, I think he works really well as a modernized Trailbreaker.

The light-piping on his eyes, of course, is basically nonexistent because Hasbro keeps trying to use the trick without sacrificing the look of the head, so light can't ACTUALLY REACH the eye piece. It is even worse than usual here since he's got that big shield emitter rising up behind his head throwing a shadow onto the tiny portal they barely remembered to add(but hey, at least they remembered). That the lightpiping is less than worthless really goes without saying, but I am taking the excuse to gripe at the consistently bad engineering decisions that have gone into mainstream Transformer heads for something like a decade now.

 

 

But there's one thing I've always wondered about this version of this guy... why does he have as many sockets on him as a Centurions figure? Has anyone ever figured out what the thought process was there?

I mean, there's three down his back, both shoulders, both forearms, another pair at his knees, then two more on the back of his shieldgun(which ALSO has three pegs on it). He could equip every gun Cliffjumper owns AT THE SAME TIME. It is a little ridiculous.

Concur with everything you said, especially his shield emitter stowing into his camper in truck mode- it seems a given to me, so why TT didn't do that is anybody's guess. As you said, questionable engineering decisions. I don't think I ever noticed the light-piping, TBH. I never noticed how many ports he has all over his body, either, especially when he didn't come with a handheld weapon (unless you count the unwieldy shieldguns, which I tab onto his forearm Megatron style) Anyway, I found the mold to be interesting and visually appealing, and the transformation scheme is complex enough to make him interesting without frustration, and he indeed cleans up well in both modes. In short, a fun TF toy that does just about everything right. As an IDW representation, I think TT did a good job capturing the new look as well, and I find it suitably fitting for the character. I was impressed enough by the figure to get his mold brother, Hoist, as well. Generally I skip repaints, unless they add something significant. Too, at the time, TF's were still around $10 for deluxes, so buying repaints didn't make as much of a dent. I've been really happy with the majority of the CHUG line, my top favorites being Mirage, Hound (of whom one or the other used to accompany me on my deployments before I retired) RTS Jazz, Wheeljack/Tracks (another fairly complex figure that yields a clean bot and vehicle mode, and IMHO, works for both characters), deluxe Warpath, Classics Bumblebee, and of late, many of the TR heavily G1 inspired figures. I'll throw in Arcee, too; despite her shellformery nature, TT dun good in capturing her likeness overall. She's not an easy figure to make, as evidenced by the recent less-than-stellar 3P attempts, so I give leeway to TT for making her as good as she is at the deluxe scale. Plus, we waited over 30 years for an official version, and it could have been much worse (see Toy World's Leia-:bad:)

1 hour ago, Hikuro said:

btw anyone noticed that figures are in short supply lately? Every store I’ve got since TRUs announced shut down has come up fairly barren minus studio figures which even those are in short supply. Walmart, target, fredmyers, anywhere with a toy department is virtually empty. One store even had tags on their generations pegs saying “temporarily unavailable”

Yep- my local Wally has a few of the Studio Series deluxes, a few pegs of RID figures, a couple pegs with legends class PotP figures and any number of the PotP Powermasters. No PotP deluxes, voyagers, or leaders to speak of for at least a couple weeks. I was actually pretty pleased towards the end of last year, beginning of this, as the TF shelves were being stocked regularly, and it was starting to become easier to find these things again. Now the old trend of little to no stock is happening again. I hope it's a temporary issue. Waiting patiently for the rest of PotP Terrorcons to start showing up. Also waiting for Studio Series Brawl.

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7 hours ago, Hikuro said:

Hmmmm now I’m getting interested in BWs again.

btw anyone noticed that figures are in short supply lately? Every store I’ve got since TRUs announced shut down has come up fairly barren minus studio figures which even those are in short supply. Walmart, target, fredmyers, anywhere with a toy department is virtually empty. One store even had tags on their generations pegs saying “temporarily unavailable”

That's been my continual experience since Classics and Alternators hit, aside from the "unavailable" sticker.

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First teeny, tiny photos of prototype V3 Prime are out, look next to the gold MP-10. Apparently the full prototype will be shown off at TTS. Once again, articulation be damned, if he's too toon accurate I will probably pass, MP-10 lacks modern articulation yes, but his aesthetic is on point for me, too toony is no good for me personally.

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Are we going to get a gold mp10?

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34 minutes ago, jenius said:

Are we going to get a gold mp10?

Definitely, but no word on if it is Lucky Draw like most gold releases or if it will be a normal release. Funny that Takara is pushing another repaint of MP-10, with pictures of a newer Prime right next to it, blatantly telling you a new Prime is coming, but here's another MP-10 to buy...

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2 hours ago, Tking22 said:

First teeny, tiny photos of prototype V3 Prime are out, look next to the gold MP-10. Apparently the full prototype will be shown off at TTS. Once again, articulation be damned, if he's too toon accurate I will probably pass, MP-10 lacks modern articulation yes, but his aesthetic is on point for me, too toony is no good for me personally.

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Man, they got me hook, line, and sinker for MP-29+ I must say. Sadly, I got out of Beast Wars MPs, and will be passing on dino Megs.

I wonder if this new version of MP-10 will be MP-10+ or if it will have a new number designation? The teasers look good so far, and I don't mind if the whole thing adopts a more toon accurate look like modern G1 MPs. I will be keeping MP-10 anyway, and this  gives me more of an excuse to stand MP-10 with Maketoys Despotron. I think those two look better together, anyway. With this new version, I'm hoping Takara will give us a better match for their official G1 Masterpiece Megatron (MP-36). That could be a cool display, if everything works out.

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12 minutes ago, technoblue said:

Man, they got me hook, line, and sinker for MP-29+ I must say. Sadly, I got out of Beast Wars MPs, and will be passing on dino Megs.

I wonder if this new version of MP-10 will be MP-10+ or if it will have a new number designation? The teasers look good so far, and I don't mind if the whole thing adopts a more toon accurate look like modern G1 MPs. I will be keeping MP-10 anyway, and this  gives me more of an excuse to stand MP-10 with Maketoys Despotron. I think those two look better together, anyway. With this new version, I'm hoping Takara will give us a better match for their official G1 Masterpiece Megatron (MP-36). That could be a cool display, if everything works out.

I think you're right. Despotron looks better with MP-10. It's weird to see how Optimus have short thigh besides MP-36 Megatron. ^_^ 

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Now I'm considering again these two. Hehehe. :lol:

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I sat on the fence for a year before finally picking up MP-10 b/c I didn't like the way the wheel wells projected out with those chintzy covers, and his ape-arms. After seeing pic after pic of him, though, his appeal began to grow, and I got him. No regrets; he's still a really nice Optimus figure, and his truck mode is a great improvement over MP-01, whose design most certainly prioritized bot mode, and for that reason still holds a place near and dear. That said, I'm open to an update, especially if they work on proportion, hiding those leg wheels and streamlining his legs, and giving him an articulation upgrade. Granted, given TT's devotion to the animation models, a lot fine detail will likely be lost (rivets around panels, panel lines themselves, etc), but I'm still curious to see what they can pull off, especially in light of all the complex engineering in Sunstreaker and Megatron. I just hope they maintain a good balance between his truck and bot mode, as a lot of Prime toys tend to fudge the former, and by this stage of the game, with all the 3P guys bringing some deft engineering to the fore, TT need to demonstrate why buying official product has its payoff.

Gotta agree that the aesthetics between Despotron and MP-10 are a far better match. Chunky, but good. Despotron is just a fantastic looking Megatron.

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43 minutes ago, technoblue said:

With this new version, I'm hoping Takara will give us a better match for their official G1 Masterpiece Megatron (MP-36). That could be a cool display, if everything works out.

This was always the plan, Takara is making V3 Prime toon accurate like all of their modern releases, with the main goal being to make it a perfect companion for MP-36, who myself and others feel looks ridiculous next to MP-10, you can see the clear aesthetic shift from earlier MPs to how they are now. Doubtful it will be a designation for MP-10, I'd guess it will be an all new numbered MP release. Most are guessing it will have some design elements from MP-10, but mostly a new figure with more articulation, and it will be far closer to the straight off the screen toon aesthetic Takara is going with now.

On a side note I wasn't all too impressed with MP-36 so I sold it and bought the Magten silver KO MP-36, same figure as MP-36 but it's finished in a beautiful silver paint with red on the inside of the legs like the G1 toy, it's the perfect blend of toon and toy that I want in my MP-36. And honestly, the paint is far nicer and more durable, plus it has some better tolerances and joints.

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'Bout time. I hope the next iteration is better; it'd be easy to say it couldn't get worse than Bay's, but sure it could. Need someone like Marty Isenberg to flesh out the reboot. Marty 'got it', which is why, love or hate the animation style, Animated was a good Transformers show. It paid homage to what came before, while establishing its own storyline.

Hope the art direction slews more towards an E. J. Su look. Always liked his industrial approach to the designs, even while maintaining a G1 aesthetic. That's what I want- Transformers that are recognizable as Transformers, not all broken up into a zillion tiny bits and glued to a CG skeleton, but more in keeping with the general toy aesthetic, where the transformation is absolutely feasible because it's based on something that actually transforms. I'd be happy if they turned out like upgraded Alternators- just with better articulation.

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29 minutes ago, JB0 said:

/me does a happy dance

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