Guest davidwhangchoi Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 i think jenius a while back was making a case to go 1/72 because of the pricing issue of enemy mecha. but i doubt yamato/arcadia is willing at this point to introduce a 1/72 line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 +1 which would make it even more expensive if it were fully built and not a kit. putting it in the 500-600 range, even at the lower end 500, i doubt more than a dozen will buy it. thought the reason for the expense was the limited run and non-traditional nature of the materials used.....I do not think a non-transforming toy version made with the same plastics used for the rest of their line would cost more than the limited HDP kit....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 1/60 scale...really $$$$$! Smaller scale...ehhhh. Any Regult release for me..."not too excited so I'll wait for a sale." The toy company sees this and goes,"we're not gonna try that again!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hey Arcadia, make it in 1/60th scale; make it "Made-to-Order" like VF-4G >> Profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Made to order might work but if I was Arcadia I'd ask for money up front for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The solution to make it cheaper would be to skimp on some of the fancier aspects of it. Personally I don't need to be able to open thing up and look inside it. I'll never ever pose it that way. Leave the egg shell completely hollow. That does several things. Cuts down on cost of unnecessary parts inside. Cuts down on cost of tooling fancier parts. Cuts down on cost assembling unnecessary parts. And as we've already heard, cuts down on the weight up top the knees/ankles need to support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I would pay up front for it also. I missed out on it because at the time it was being sold, currency conversion was horrid and would have made it over $500 to purchase. I just couldn't fit it in my budget because I had other expenses as well and it didn't stick around at places like HLJ very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) The reason for the pricing was the HDP resin used and limited numbers. I frankly was not thrilled by this, if they would've made the kit at least for less than 300 it would've sold better. I know its a huge kit but still don't understand why it's so difficult to mass produce with cheaper lighter materials, only one hatches open, waist, knees and ankle articulation, not complicated. But I'll be honest, I would not pay 350-400 for this kit. Edited January 15, 2014 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yeah, I didn't understand the logic behind using HDP instead of the ABS they normally use on everything else. I'm sure that added quite a bit to the price of the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It's almost as if it was set up to fail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 yeah if this was a traditional kit or even a finished toy it would have been LESS than the limited production HDP kit. But even at less than $400 they figured they couldn't get enough sales to make production tooling worth it so they went low production, high price is my guess. i woud love for them to reevaluate the business case for a full production kit/toy or toy/kit of the regult. the design could be based on this one with some necessary changes for higher production more toy friendly kit. to make it cheaper they can reduce the size maybe....even if they reduced the scale to 1/65 or 1/72 it'd look "big enough" next to a 1/60 valk. ideally 1/60 would be nice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It's almost as if it was set up to fail...It feels like all Regult toys are set up to fail though don't it? We got gummy Revoltechs (actually pretty nice but I skipped them). We got expensive Yamato kits. We got Toynami releases that didn't do well because HELLO! TOYNAMI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It feels like all Regult toys are set up to fail though don't it? We got gummy Revoltechs (actually pretty nice but I skipped them). We got expensive Yamato kits. We got Toynami releases that didn't do well because HELLO! TOYNAMI! I do still have my Playmates one as well... What's funny is my ex-girlfriend's 8 year old kid didn't know anything about Macross/Robotech/etc... at all and his favorite out of everything I showed him was that little Toynami Regult. That and the VF-17... It seems like for something like the enemy mecha they need to find ways to cut costs, not make them more expensive. I'm sorry, I know some people really want to pose them opened up with soldiers piloting them but all of those "gimmicks" make it more expensive. A stripped down one with decent poseability is all I'd need. It would still be expensive because of the joints, but it doesn't need anything more than that. Then again I also want nousejadeul_ger's and Zent Battlesuits, etc... You'd think with some of these pretty poseable figma style figures they could stamp out some battle-armor for $40 or $50 that would look decent and be poseable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) I would consider a release in the Robot Damashii line! Simple, nice quality, low cost, low price, and hopefully looks nice! Edited January 15, 2014 by xrentonx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Posting pics as promised. More to come!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 A w w w w w - AWESOME! Great Pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Awesome! I still plan to make a soldier to put inside these suckers. Already have it all modeled up! I'm just saving up for a 3D printer. Hopefully it won't be too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I would consider a release in the Robot Damashii line! Simple, nice quality, low cost, low price, and hopefully looks nice! A similar concept to what I'm thinking of, yes. Though I would like for them to be in scale. Posting pics as promised. More to come!!! It's a perfect stance for a gancho too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Awesome! I still plan to make a soldier to put inside these suckers. Already have it all modeled up! I'm just saving up for a 3D printer. Hopefully it won't be too heavy. Shapeways Preview.JPG I would so buy one of those. It'd be cool to cut the joints & put in Revoltech joints. Or you could plan it that way for printing... Amazing Regult, I.O.! Sigh, what might've been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyD Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Yeah, I would definitely buy one of the soldiers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 great pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I feel sorry for the Zentraedi soldiers who had to be inside one of those things... the females had the better looking mecha for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tober Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Awesome! I still plan to make a soldier to put inside these suckers. Already have it all modeled up! I'm just saving up for a 3D printer. Hopefully it won't be too heavy. Shapeways Preview.JPG Nice work. I would so buy one of those. It'd be cool to cut the joints & put in Revoltech joints. Or you could plan it that way for printing... Amazing Regult, I.O.! Sigh, what might've been. That model needs separate parts to fit in the Regult anyway. Revoltech/Ball joints are the obvious way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 More pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Oh, with the knees fully bent now I see why it isn't that stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 More pics! So awesome thanks for the shots with the 1j (like the macross intro) and 1d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 So cool! I love the one with the regult sitting in front of the soldier. The one I'm making is close to the TREX one and it will require joints. It'll just be smaller to fit inside the cockpit. It's about the size of a figma figure or a CMs Macross figure. Also want one in 1/48 scale... which to me is 1/60 anime scale. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Really wish that Arcadia would re-visit this with more reasonably priced materials and fully assembled for those of us that don't have a single modeling bone in our bodies. Exclusive, limited-run, whatever - just make it happen for no more than the price of a v2 1/60 YF-19, VF-4 or SDF-1. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) They should handle it like they did with the SDF-1. Move to ABS and release an assembled version and a kit version. The kit version was half the cost of the assembled toy and included more stuff as well! It would be so easy to light this thing with LEDs, especially if you didn't care about the inside compartment. I would put LEDs in the foot and side thrusters, possibly the eye, and in the guns. Edited January 17, 2014 by MacrossJunkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Well MJ, from your keyboard to Arcadia's ears/release plans - I think a lot of people would be happy with that. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think Arcadia should make a toy dropping all internals but leaving the door open for a later "internals" set (that maybe even another company like T-Rex could fulfill. The Regult toy without the internals would be much less top heavy and would make a better toy and it should be so simple that the price wouldn't need to be astronomical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 That's a great idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 And how would you rate a toy of this kind in your toy reviews? I mean regarding Packaging content & gimmicks, charm, sculpt &detail, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think Arcadia should make a toy dropping all internals but leaving the door open for a later "internals" set (that maybe even another company like T-Rex could fulfill. The Regult toy without the internals would be much less top heavy and would make a better toy and it should be so simple that the price wouldn't need to be astronomical. That's been my idea for awhile minus the additional internals designed by someone else, but that's because I don't care about any internals. Just find a way to cut down on costs and weight. I don't need a bunch of "gimmicks" just some fun pose-ability I can put next to my Valks. At this point making a (relatively) affordable one in 1/60 you can pose is gimmick enough. With the shell hollowed out that might make it easier to change out assemblies on the front/sides/top of the pod so you could have heavy missiles, or mini-missiles or switch the face out for the Scout version. That's a better gimmick then being able to put an action figure inside it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 That's been my idea for awhile minus the additional internals designed by someone else, but that's because I don't care about any internals. Just find a way to cut down on costs and weight. I don't need a bunch of "gimmicks" just some fun pose-ability I can put next to my Valks. At this point making a (relatively) affordable one in 1/60 you can pose is gimmick enough. With the shell hollowed out that might make it easier to change out assemblies on the front/sides/top of the pod so you could have heavy missiles, or mini-missiles or switch the face out for the Scout version. That's a better gimmick then being able to put an action figure inside it to me. yup i think a simplied interior/hollow interior version would sell well since they could hit a price point people could accept. they do need to give the thing better, stiffer joints though. that would be the uiltimate insult if a simpliied hollowed out one couldn't hold poses well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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