David Hingtgen Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I've only decaled a few bits, but I have this to say: Decals are better than those in most kits, but not equal to the best kit decals or aftermarket. Many decals are "too small" IMHO, notably on the ventral fins. There are many areas where they will not cover the areas they are clearly intended too. (But I don't think the stickers are any better in that regard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Just doing a quick build on the VF-25S. Not bothering to do much panel lining this time, just assemblely and sticker. Got the torso, nose and head done, just need to do the limbs and gun. With the release of the toys imminent, this will probably be the last of the model kits I buy. As I mentioned previously, the models were just a toy substitute for me until the toys are released. I have to say I have been extremely impressed with the kits though. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Oh and I ordered two VF-25S kits and lucky I did, as my wife in a fit of tidying managed to lose half of the unfinished groin piece.......Grrrrrrr! Not sure whose to blame more, me for leaving the kit on the table, thinking it would be safe, or my wife for tidying where she's not supposed to. Anyway, I had to dip into my second kit to replace the lost parts. Not a happy camper. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyp Durron Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Ohh, I'd be one pissed off mofo, Graham. I'd make a new rule, NO TIDYING UP a model work area. BTW, can you post pics when you're done? -Kyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketrider Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) This as far as got over the weekend. It's a really well designed kit! I gotta hand it to Bandai. This the first injection kit I'm putting together since the late 80's...thank God it's a snap fit! Anyhow, my question is: does anyone have a translation of the color chart that comes with the kit? Apologies if this question has already been covered. Edited November 24, 2008 by Bucketrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Oh and I ordered two VF-25S kits and lucky I did, as my wife in a fit of tidying managed to lose half of the unfinished groin piece.......Grrrrrrr! Not sure whose to blame more, me for leaving the kit on the table, thinking it would be safe, or my wife for tidying where she's not supposed to. Graham My friend. Beleive me... you are the only one to blame. I got my 25S today... I wil have it ready by this friday along with the Alto custom and my custom Tomahawk (1/60). Then will post some pics! So you can make some fun of me. SPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly4victory Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Oh and I ordered two VF-25S kits and lucky I did, as my wife in a fit of tidying managed to lose half of the unfinished groin piece.......Grrrrrrr! Not sure whose to blame more, me for leaving the kit on the table, thinking it would be safe, or my wife for tidying where she's not supposed to. Anyway, I had to dip into my second kit to replace the lost parts. Not a happy camper. Graham Yeah my wife doesn't like macross either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 This as far as got over the weekend. How'd you paint the visor? It's "lighter" than most I've seen. I'm kinda disappointed how mine turned out---the amount of clear green needed to make it non-streaky made it pretty dark, even after I coated the back with chrome. (I really didn't feel like airbrushing a single piece, but maybe I should have with how goopy clear green is) PS--kudos for painting the chin, most people miss that (even Bandai!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketrider Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 How'd you paint the visor? It's "lighter" than most I've seen. I'm kinda disappointed how mine turned out---the amount of clear green needed to make it non-streaky made it pretty dark, even after I coated the back with chrome. (I really didn't feel like airbrushing a single piece, but maybe I should have with how goopy clear green is) PS--kudos for painting the chin, most people miss that (even Bandai!) I painted the inside face of the visor with the Tamiya Clr. Green, right out of the bottle with a no. 3 detail brush. To get a 'light' effect, I pasted on 1/16" strips of Model Master Ultra Thin Krome Foil (#50637C) over the black plastic part where the visor snaps onto. That way it will reflect light back out and glow. Very fussy detail but it gives a nice effect. And it was reading some of your posts that I made sure the chin is painted. I would've missed that detail no matter how many times I watch the show. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hmmn. I did pretty close to that--brush-painted Tamiya clear green with a small brush, but I used Tamiya *marker* silver paint (the shiniest silver money can buy--learned that from Wm Cheng) and applied it directly to the back of the green paint. I'll photograph mine later and see how it compares to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I got my VF-25S ozma from AFA08. Will not start on it anytime soon. Swamped with work and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDF-ONE Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) I painted the inside face of the visor with the Tamiya Clr. Green, right out of the bottle with a no. 3 detail brush. To get a 'light' effect, I pasted on 1/16" strips of Model Master Ultra Thin Krome Foil (#50637C) over the black plastic part where the visor snaps onto. That way it will reflect light back out and glow. Very fussy detail but it gives a nice effect. And it was reading some of your posts that I made sure the chin is painted. I would've missed that detail no matter how many times I watch the show. Cheers! That's a good trick. I did the same on mine now, but I cut off a tiny strip of the foil sticker sheet instead. Also Dalong has posted his extensive review of Ozuma (or is it Ozma?). I noticed that the bottom of the fighter mode is a bit messy with the gray-white color scheme. I will probably paint the bottom of the wings white as well. http://www.dalong.net/review/etc/mf02/mf02_p.htm Edited November 25, 2008 by SDF-ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReaper Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 So what is the best way to paint the visor. Airbrush clear green on the front or on the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebu Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Howdy, I got "Ozuma Custom" today (Thanks 'mustang1'). Also, for those of you who didn't know, there is this guy name 'dalong' out of Korea who does model kit review (straight build with panel lines and decal/stickers only, NO Painting) . Well, anyways, he updated the review for "Ozuma Custom" yesterday so check it out. http://dalong.net/review/etc/mf02/mf02_p.htm Now, after looking at his photo review plus confirming it with the kit I got today. I wanted to note couple of things. 1. There are some discrepancies of color scheme (indicated by the red arrows in the photo, these parts are grey in the kit. They should be white.) 2. Despite my concerns, the color separation for the head is excellent (There are just two very small spot that need to be white) 3. Head include some cool gimmicks (It folds) 4. The clear part in front of the fighter (below, forward) is still covered by light purple sticker. This part (and canopy) will need some clear coatings.. 5. Panel line fill and sticker application are must (check out the straight build without any panel lines and stickers applied YUCK!!! ) I will post the completed model when it is done (Don't know what that will be though) Thanks Zebu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Nit-pick since people keep saying it: There is no white on Ozma's valk. There is however, very light grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Check it out! From the DX thread: http://www.toy-world.com.hk/maga/fk/03_2008/037.html Looks like that is the planned line-up so far. I want all of them and want to know about that stand!! will it come with the Super Alto, be sold separetly or both!!? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vifam7 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Check it out! From the DX thread: http://www.toy-world.com.hk/maga/fk/03_2008/037.html Looks like that is the planned line-up so far. I want all of them and want to know about that stand!! will it come with the Super Alto, be sold separetly or both!!? Chris SMS action base stand to be sold separately. When - unknown. Price - unknown. Above, it says that Super Parts will be sold separately and as a combo pack. When - unknown. Price - unknown. Edited November 26, 2008 by Vifam7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Super pack separately? Hmmn. Of course, the big question is--how? Perhaps it'll include a few "replacement" parts? If you just snap-fit it together it may be quite possible to remove parts and use the new ones with armor attachment points, but people who glued and puttied will have problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 you know Bandai doesn't give a f*ck when they keep wearing Gundam jackets with Macross figures all over the table for a macross article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 SMS action base stand to be sold separately. When - unknown. Price - unknown. Above, it says that Super Parts will be sold separately and as a combo pack. When - unknown. Price - unknown. This is welcome news. Thank God i don't have to buy another kit just to make my Alto armoured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klam1020 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Thanks for those scans!!! Which magazine are they from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet101 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Looks like model graphix. I'd love to see Bandai do those schemes. Great to hear about the next line up and the super packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Looks like model graphix. I'd love to see Bandai do those schemes. Great to hear about the next line up and the super packs. Yes it's model graphix I checked the bottom corners of the first pic Edited November 26, 2008 by Ignacio Ocamica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenphong Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Welcomed news for sure for me. I'm glad I won't have to repurchase Alto and Ozma's armor/super packs for my kits. Lets just hope they will be reasonably priced compared to the bundle kits that will be offered. Edited November 26, 2008 by shenphong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntsan Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Do you think that the Armor pack may come with 4 different set of stickers or just one color for each edition? Anyway that excellent news to hear! Is that blue custom similar to the draft drawing of SK shown on the other thread? Edited November 26, 2008 by ntsan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The *super* pack (not armor pack) is going to have most of the "brightly colored parts" molded in color, clearly. I doubt they'll include multiple copies of the sprues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin3060 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Any tips about getting the intake beam guns into the proper positions? After a few transformations I cant seem to get my legs/engine nacelles to sit properly, resulting in the problem. I wish Bandai had come up with a way of locking all the wing root pieces into position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly4victory Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 you know Bandai doesn't give a f*ck when they keep wearing Gundam jackets with Macross figures all over the table for a macross article Its cool that the employees get nice uniforms and sucks that they are not wearing the SMS shirt, tie and jacket. I'd pay to work at Bandai just just to see them implement an SMS uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I finally finished building my 1/72 VF-25 kit. I broke the leg in the upper thigh inner skelleton but used some cement to fuse it back. Still need to sticker it up. Transformation is painful so I will be keeping it in Battroid mode. It is a very nice model and it was a lot of fun but it took a whole lot of time to build. I want the others but dont know if I will ever make the time to build them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Finished my VF-25S Ozma at the weekend. I didn't bother with panel lining this time, just did a quick build and stickered it up. Where as the Alto VF-25F definitely needs panel lining to look good, IMO the grey plastic of the VF-25S actually looks fine without any panel lining. Bandai have obviously made some improvements to the tooling as the wing-roop/hip guns fit much better on this kit. Unfortunately, while building it, I broke the hook connector on the neck bar that connects to the collar. I couldn't fix it again. Beacuse of this I decided after completing the kit to glue it permanently into fighter mode. Luckily I found the peices that my wife had lost, so I can now build my second kit, which I will leave transformable (assuming I don't break anything). As others have already mentioned, the tips of the horns on the big skull sticker, actually sit on top of the wing hinges, which is likely going to damage the sticker during transformation. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Graham--can you tell WHAT was done to make the hip-guns fit better? (so that we can attempt to modify Alto's to be the same) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Yeah, i'd like to know this aswell. I looked at the parts but could not find any visible reason as to why the fit is better. Graham, are the head-lasers on your Ozma becoming loose? Mine don't even stay on anymoe. I tried nail polish but that only made the hole too shallow for the ball-joint to fit. I had to glue them on permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Yeah, the head lasers are pretty loose. Not 'fall off by themself' lose, but ceratinly 'fall off at a slight touch' loose. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin3060 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 From my Alto kit, it seems that the main problem is that it is hard to get the lower intakes into the proper position, it always hangs low and doesn't fit nicely with the upper intakes/wing root part, so the intake gun piece will sit lower as well. I don't really see any solution other than to cut off the ball joint for the gun and glue the beam gun to the wing root, but that would mean I'd have to commit to fighter mode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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