Newbie Questions on Macross

[azrael]

On a similar note, is there anything that says exactly where Macross City is? North America, Japan, or elsewhere?

http://www.anime.net/macross/story/atlas/index.html

http://www.anime.net/macross/story/atlas/u...city/index.html

[RichterX]

Is it posible they build in some kind of base in the lake near or under the Macross? like where pod with the Ghost was lauch from in Macross Plus

[azrael]

Is it posible they build in some kind of base in the lake near or under the Macross? like where pod with the Ghost was lauch from in Macross Plus

It is possible since Macross City is the capital of the UN government.

But really, we don't know.

[buddhafabio]

is there an cag or an equilivant to a cag in macross?

why do unspacy noy record kills on nose of valks?

[Roy Focker]

See - Roy Focker's bio on the compedium he was the CAG of the Macross.

If you never saw kill marks on their Valks that doesn't mean they didn't have them. The animators were mainly concerned with drawing the entire valk not kill marks or every warning label. I think I heard some thing about kills marks appearing in M3.

[Zero Enna]

Macross M3 - Kill Marks :

[Zero Enna]

Why the U.N. Spacy is frequently changing flight suits?

Here are the changes in the series and games:

-Flight Suit of Macross Zero (2008)

-Flight Suit of Macross (2009)

-Flight Suit of Macross Flashback 2012(2012)

-Flight Suit of Macross M3 (2014)

-Flight Suit of Macross: DYRL (2030)

-Flight Suit of Macross Plus (The one who Isamu and other VF-11 pilots uses)(2040)

-Flight Suits of Macross 7 (Diamond Force, Cannon Fodders, Jaming Birds...)

-Flight Suit of Digital Macross Mission: VF-X (the 2048 - It remembers the 2040 one)

-Flight Suit of Digital Macross Missions: VF-X2

Why the changes if some of them don't show any great modification?

Edited May 1, 2004 by Zero Enna

[azrael]

Why the U.N. Spacy is frequently changing flight suits?

Here are the changes in the series and games:

-Flight Suit of Macross Zero (2008)

-Flight Suit of Macross (2009)

-Flight Suit of Macross Flashback 2012(2012)

-Flight Suit of Macross M3 (2014)

-Flight Suit of Macross: DYRL (2030)

-Flight Suit of Macross Plus (The one who Isamu and other VF-11 pilots uses)(2040)

-Flight Suits of Macross 7 (Diamond Force, Cannon Fodders, Jaming Birds...)

-Flight Suit of Digital Macross Mission: VF-X (the 2048 - It remembers the 2040 one)

-Flight Suit of Digital Macross Missions: VF-X2

Why the changes if some of them don't show any great modification?

Different units use different suits. Technology changes over time. And styles change over time. Production-wise and story wise.

[Pat Payne]

Don't forget also: What looks cool in 1982 may look hokey by 1984 or 2004...

But DYRL is forever

[vanpang]

Don't forget also: What looks cool in 1982 may look hokey by 1984 or 2004...

But DYRL is forever

hear ! hear ! Pat Payne ! I Long Live DYRL !!!

[Boxer]

Don't know if this deserves it's own thread or not...

But what is this?

Of course it's from the Steelfalcon macross site, which calls this a one-shot laser cannon. Is this what it really is or could this be the first real beam gunpod? Nanashi?

EDIT: That should be a VF-17 firing the cannon.

Edited May 3, 2004 by Boxer

[Roy Focker]

Talk about lazy. What are people going to do if Nanashi/WindJammer not here?

Look at the Macross Compedium and find the answer there.

90% of all answers can be found a anime.net/macross

and according to it

One multipurpose seven-barrelled gatling gun pod (with retractable handle and fore grip, folding stock, muzzle sensors, and strap) mounted with an exit port and stealth covers in lower main fuselage in all modes or ejectible from lower leg section into manipulator in Battroid mode (one spare gun pod magazine or one gunpod beam adaptor stored in lower main fuselage in Fighter mode or in opposite lower leg section in Battroid mode).

See it's the a Gunpd Beam Adaptor. It took me 10 seconds to find that out.

If you want to see in action watch Macross 7.

Here's the steps I took.

1. Type in www.anime.net/macross and hit enter.

2. Saw the compedium's home page and clicked mecha.

3. Saw the mecha page and clicked VF-17.

4. Read the section on the VF-17 Armaments.

5. Cut and pasted the answer.

See how easy that was.

[Radd]

I would say that most really new newbies might not know what the Compendium is, but I think instead I'll save anyone the ridicule they'd recieve by posting just that and point out that there's a link to it in the very first post of this thread, stating that most of the answers are there.

[promethuem5]

Hi all,

I'm new to Robotech and liking what I am seeing. I am a Battletech dweeb tho, so am not unfamiliar to giant robot stuff I know Culverin from LotB too, so Im not some random stranger Right now I am reading the original comic adaptations of the Robotech stuff, as well as the novels, and plan on getting the DVD of the series nad movie

I have a couple more toy related questions:

WHY are most of them so fircken hard ot find!? why arent there soem decently done all plastic chaper versions of the big transformables? I got one of the Banpresto onex and it blows....all the joinst are loose and I had to modify the amr Suoer Valk armor to make it fit or stay on.

Theres that one comic con exclusive Suoper posable VF-1D non transforming Battroid fig, but why arent there more!> I want all the Valks in suoer posable figs.

I am big on the model kits too.....especially the 1/200 scale ones by BIG WEST? I have links to some I did over on lordsofthebattlefield.com, but most of those are in Battletech colors except for this one:

http://www.lordsofthebattlefield.com/galle...album=81&pos=38

[JB0]

Hi all,

I'm new to Robotech and liking what I am seeing.  I am a Battletech dweeb tho, so am not unfamiliar to giant robot stuff   I know Culverin from LotB too, so Im not some random stranger   Right now I am reading the original comic adaptations of the Robotech stuff, as well as the novels, and plan on getting the DVD of the series nad movie

Friendly warning: Some people here really really hate Robotech.

There's a thread in other anime and science fiction explaining the diffrences, if you don't know them.

I have a couple more toy related questions:

WHY are most of them so fircken hard ot find!? 

Because the show is 20 years old, mainly.

why arent there soem decently done all plastic chaper versions of the big transformables? 

Because the target market is collectors, whoa re willing to pay that, or kids, who don't care if it's anime-accurate.

I got one of the Banpresto onex and it blows....all the joinst are loose and I had to modify the amr Suoer Valk armor to make it fit or stay on. 

Somewhere around here's instructions to make hte Banpresto valks into semi-decent toys.

Theres that one comic con exclusive  Suoper posable VF-1D non transforming Battroid fig, but why arent there more!>  I want all the Valks in suoer posable figs.

Nasty legal dispute between Harmony Gold and Big West serve to restrict what comes in. Many valks never appeared in the original Macross TV series, and thus aren't/weren't fair game for Harmony Gold to make toys(they MAY have signed a license to acquire toy rights to other shows recently, based on their announcement of DYRL superposables. It's still not clear as far as I know)

I am big on the model kits too.....especially the 1/200 scale ones by BIG WEST?

More likely under license from Big West. They're the Macross copyright holder, but as far as I know, they only do animation.

Edited May 3, 2004 by JB0

[Boxer]

Forgive me of my ignorance.

Edited May 3, 2004 by Boxer

[azrael]

I would say that most really new newbies might not know what the Compendium is, but I think instead I'll save anyone the ridicule they'd recieve by posting just that and point out that there's a link to it in the very first post of this thread, stating that most of the answers are there.

Nah, people are just lazy.

Now for a friendly reminder:

The Macross Compendium, the best and most under-used resource for Macross.

Mirror for the Robotech FAQ for people who want answer for differences between the 2 shows.

Lebhead's site, for people who just found the world outside Robotech.

Heck, he even has his own thread: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=228

And for our own info threads:

The infamous HG vs. BW license debate thread. Post at your own risk of not reading the thread first.

[Druna Skass]

Is that ship Bodolza had (both series and DYRL) unique to him (only his looks like that) or were they mass produced?

[promethuem5]

thanks for the response. the only thing is, the macross/robotech FAQ site aint workin for me, so im still in the dark tehre.....but i am definetaly doing to joint tightening tricks to my banpresto valk.....so its worth foolin around with

[Shmitty]

Ok, I know that the SW-AG is the energy converting armor on the VF's, but what does the acronym stand for?

Edited May 4, 2004 by Shmitty

[melancholic]

Not much of a question, but I've had the Macross box sets from Animeigo for about a year now and just started watching them. This is the first time I've seen Macross for about six years, and I noticed that some scenes the animation is so choppy as to look like it came from a slide projector. Is it the DVDs or were parts of Macross actually that poorly animated? My memory on this aspect of the show is really bad, so I had to ask. I continually read about Animefriend being a bad studio, but it really takes the cake for poor animation in a few scenes.

Edited May 4, 2004 by melancholic

[JB0]

It's really that bad at points.

[Hydro]

I don't know if this has been discused here before so I'll ask in here. Why is it that in all the valks with a twin cockpit, the radar guy gets stuffed into a ridiculusly small space behind the pilot? does he have no legs or is his control panel built into the back of the pilots eject seat? It looks very odd to me, just like one of those sports cars with back seats only usefull for shopping.

[RichterX]

Do you mean the VF-0?

Well it is not like the VFs are passenger planes...

[azrael]

Is that ship Bodolza had (both series and DYRL) unique to him (only his looks like that) or were they mass produced?

Mass-produced.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/zentrad...itzs/index.html

Variants, however, do exist.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_..._bis/index.html

Ok, I know that the SW-AG is the energy converting armor on the VF's, but what does the acronym stand for?

That hasn't been explained. However, Egan Loo can ask Kawamori the next chance he gets. However, I get the feeling it's just something Kawamori pulled out of his ass....

I don't know if this has been discused here before so I'll ask in here. Why is it that in all the valks with a twin cockpit, the radar guy gets stuffed into a ridiculusly small space behind the pilot?

The VF-0D, VF-1D, VF-11D, VF-17T, and VF-5000T-G actually look fairly roomy from the lineart. The VT-1/VE-1 is the only one that actually looks fairly tight. As for the YF-19's rear seat, the seat is labeled as optional, so I would imagine that the seat is normally not there for a reason.

For some quick lineart views: http://www.mahq.net/

[wolfx]

Random things i realise from rewatching DYRL and never realised before:

1.) DYRL has some cool civilian death scenes.....gory factor.

2.) Max was macronised and piloted the Q-rau with Miria. Wow..how come I didn't realise this?

3.) Miria was addressed as Miria 639 by Laplamiz.

4.) In the beginning when Max pwned 3 zentraedi battlepods, the last one his gunpod was strapped to his arm facing the OTHER way and it fired on poor zentraedi's head. Animation error? Heh. The gunpod can't face that way strapped to the hand. (I thought he was holding it with his hands at 1st)

5.) Star DUET poster parodying Star Wars poster. Luke and Leia's roles of holding the lightsaber is exchanged.

Macross 7 encore: Strongest women of the fleet:

- When Max and Miria was walking into the bridge of the meltrand ship in their VF-22s, they were the same size and height as the Meltran guards escorting them. Weren't the VF-22s supposed to be bigger than an average Zentraedi?

[Pat Payne]

Is that ship Bodolza had (both series and DYRL) unique to him (only his looks like that) or were they mass produced?

Mass-produced.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/zentrad...itzs/index.html

Variants, however, do exist.

Um, Azrael, I think he was asking about this ship

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/zentrad...ntzs/index.html

And, both versions were mass-produced. At the end of the movie, Exedore tells Britai that they still have a massive amount of work, since there are roughly 1000 Bodolza-class fortresses and their attendant fleets running around.

Edited May 4, 2004 by Pat Payne

[Effect]

Quick question. In episode 5 of SDF Macross. When the Macross detects the Zents defolding behind them and the order to scramble is given. What are those black VF-1s? Is that just a color scheme or are they a certain model? Stealth versions maybe?

[azrael]

Um, Azrael, I think he was asking about this ship

Whoops.

Quick question. In episode 5 of SDF Macross. When the Macross detects the Zents defolding behind them and the order to scramble is given. What are those black VF-1s? Is that just a color scheme or are they a certain model?

Most likely, color scheme. There are many color schemes for VFs as we've seen. This could be one of them. Or it could be just an animation mistake.

[connor99]

wolfx Posted on May 4 2004, 09:53 AM

In the beginning when Max pwned 3 zentraedi battlepods, the last one his gunpod was strapped to his arm facing the OTHER way and it fired on poor zentraedi's head. Animation error? Heh. The gunpod can't face that way strapped to the hand. (I thought he was holding it with his hands at 1st)

"ANIME MAGIC" perhaps?!

[wolfx]

Oh...and also in Hikaru's room in DYRL, there's a toy model of a VF-4 ? It looks like a VF-4.

[VF-19]

wolfx Posted on May 4 2004, 09:53 AM

In the beginning when Max pwned 3 zentraedi battlepods, the last one his gunpod was strapped to his arm facing the OTHER way and it fired on poor zentraedi's head. Animation error? Heh. The gunpod can't face that way strapped to the hand. (I thought he was holding it with his hands at 1st)

"ANIME MAGIC" perhaps?!

This one was brought up in a previous thread, and one argument was that this was a one time only usage. Max could have ordered the arming crew to put the gunpod on backwards, so that, when he transformed into battroid mode for the first time, the gunpod would be facing towards the victim. When he transformed his 1A back, the gunpod was probably switched around again.

[connor99]

VF-19 Posted on May 5 2004, 05:22 AM

This one was brought up in a previous thread, and one argument was that this was a one time only usage. Max could have ordered the arming crew to put the gunpod on backwards, so that, when he transformed into battroid mode for the first time, the gunpod would be facing towards the victim. When he transformed his 1A back, the gunpod was probably switched around again

This is not possible because I just saw DYRL? again and in that part where the valks are on the intercept course to engage the battle pods and MISA was giving them course corrections, MAX, who also was adjusting his flying patterns by using the fast pack side boosters, had his gunpod on the valk the usual way. So, it couldn't have asked the arming crew to attach the gunpod backwards on the valks arm.

[RichterX]

It was just an animation effect for coolness

edited to add:

also in that battle scene the transformation of Max's VF-1A is not shown clear, he might had switch the way the gunpod was attach for the melee

Edited May 6, 2004 by RichterX

[connor99]

RichterX Posted on May 5 2004, 10:45 PM

It was just an animation effect for coolness

edited to add:

also in that battle scene the transformation of Max's VF-1A is not shown clear, he might had switch the way the gunpod was attach for the melee

SURE. but why would he re-attach the gunpod back to the valks right arm as oppose to having to hold it with the valks hand, specially during combat?