Southcross Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 On second thought... if this were say... a prototype, the final version being "perfecct" that might be a different story. Well, we've seen how Toynami's 'prototypes' compare to their 'production' toys. So, I think it's safe to say this is the best we'll see. A clear canopy might be an improvement, but that's if they throw. Ack! if this is as good as its gonna get?!? I haven't changed my mind. If they improve the seams and make a "real" canopy/cockpit... then thats a different story. I consider it a wait and see.. HG has enough of my money as it is, I think I need to give more to BW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoptimus Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Okay... 1.) I want the Japanese issued Mospeada ones that Toynami is suppose to sell overseas.. 2.)$80.00!! Yeah keep puffin that crazy crack HG. 3.)Please tell me its gonna look much better than that...especially for $80.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isamu Atreides 86 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 looks nice. but for 80 bucks? no way. not for something that small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cube Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I think the sculpt is hot, but that better be a painted prototype (although you think they would have mentioned it somewhere if it was). The seams are nasty, and the canopy sux. My guess is that it is the final version, but they painted over the canopy to hide some super-special detail in the cockpit...or the battery for the light-up eye is in the cockpit:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelay Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I'll admit that I've always liked the Alpha and wished I had one. But for $80.00, though...? Nope. I'll just bide my time until I see the price drop significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesonme78 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 think i can get one of those at cheaper rates but however to complet the collections ....................well..................maybe maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesonme78 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 i will jjst get one i think cause i want it anyway more better then the old ones in details can lahz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladic Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 looks amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druna Skass Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Ahhh, I want one... But for $80, you'd need to get me pretty hammered for me to get one at that price. I'll wait till I see it on ebay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain america Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 The pictures on Toynami's site look like those of a test-shot model, so for those of you hoping for an improved final product you're out of luck: aside from (possibly) having a clear canopy for the production toy, that's pretty much what it'll look like. The paint job will probably be worse, as per Toynami's usual qc standards. Sculpt is poor... I find it both hilarious and tragic that overall, the proportions on the "improved" IMAI sculpt looks even worse than the 20 year-old kit it was copied from; the fit of the LEX/engine nacelle/wing root is clumsy and mismatched... Japanese engineering my a$$ <_< $19.99 toy in tacky Disney packaging. $80?--HA! John F. Moscato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyowelb Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I'll admit that I've always liked the Alpha and wished I had one. But for $80.00, though...? Nope. I'll just bide my time until I see the price drop significantly. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rewooh Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 i wouldn't be surprised if the price drops. look at the yf-1r. it was 80, then it dropped to like 50-60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 As inaccurate as the sculpt may be, it's still a lot better than the old Gakken toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neova Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Okay...1.) I want the Japanese issued Mospeada ones that Toynami is suppose to sell overseas.. 2.)$80.00!! Yeah keep puffin that crazy crack HG. 3.)Please tell me its gonna look much better than that...especially for $80.00 What Milkman said! After Takara KO'ed Yamato with the MPC Optimus Prime Convoy in terms of Quality/Price and Value, I think toy collectors in the know have elevated their standards. At least my expectations have gone up. I'm sure we can wait a few months and find some in the bargain bins for 25 USD or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 (edited) As inaccurate as the sculpt may be, it's still a lot better than the old Gakken toy. You maybe right, but I got my Gakken for $20 back when it was being produced. And at that time it was one of the best toys out there. Toys like the Gakken shouldn't be much more than that now. Maybe even more if it was still being produced domestically. I wouldn't hesitate to pick up the Toynami Alpha if they sold it for what it's worth. An Alternator is $20 at Target. Even with it's limited release it should still be under the $40 mark. Edited January 28, 2004 by >EXO< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadzone Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 The pictures on Toynami's site look like those of a test-shot model, so for those of you hoping for an improved final product you're out of luck: aside from (possibly) having a clear canopy for the production toy, that's pretty much what it'll look like. The paint job will probably be worse, as per Toynami's usual qc standards.Sculpt is poor... I find it both hilarious and tragic that overall, the proportions on the "improved" IMAI sculpt looks even worse than the 20 year-old kit it was copied from; the fit of the LEX/engine nacelle/wing root is clumsy and mismatched... Japanese engineering my a$$ $19.99 toy in tacky Disney packaging. $80?--HA! John F. Moscato Good to hear from you again. Any chance you will be finishing the project to show Toynami how an Alpha/Legioss should be done? I sincerely hope so. In terms of the MPC Alpha, I am in agreement with the general consensus. The toy is okay at a lower price point. I would be willing to pay $25.00 for it if the thing shows up in a bargain bin. The final product just looks too cheap with the low quality plastic, ugly seams, and a painted canopy. Reminds me of the childrens toys kids played with when they were three or four (the canopy I mean). Funny thing is, the Gakken Alpha was made several years back, and I still think that toy kicks ass. The proportions are wrong, but the scale and ABS plastic more than makes up for it. How come in our age of technology, remakes are getting crappier? I just hope that the prices for the Gakkens start coming down as a result of the MPC release. Of course if the good Captain decides to finish his project, I would start saving up money for that instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I'll probably end up buying from RT.com to get the crappy cells AND the Mospeada versions, just to cover all bases. Cyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjek Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 ok a newbie question. Hi there, i have seen this animation when i was young cant rem much thou. but the alpha fighters only appeared in robotech rite? never in macross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rogers Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 i wouldn't be surprised if the price drops. look at the yf-1r. it was 80, then it dropped to like 50-60 I wouldn't talk when the Yamato VF-1's were ¥6,800 then dropped to like $26 shipped on eBay. That's about 35% of its original worth (assuming S/H was about 6 bucks) compared to the Toynami, which kept at least 62.5% of its value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91WhiskeyM6 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 No thanks! I'd rather spend $80 on a Binaltech/Alternator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 (edited) Okay, I came late to the game but if you can tell me where to get a VF-1S strike, VF-1J Max or Millia, or VF-1D for $26, I'd gladly pay you a commission. Surely the earlier Yamato VF-1's took longer to drop to their current prices than the YF-1R has taken to drop to its current level. Anyway, the $80 MPC price tag is probably Toynami/HG highballing the price, knowing they'll still make a profit if they can sell it at $40. If a few people bite at $80, so much the better. Edit: It's already available for $70 + S/H! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=3172393657 Edited January 28, 2004 by ewilen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 ok a newbie question. Hi there, i have seen this animation when i was young cant rem much thou. but the alpha fighters only appeared in robotech rite? never in macross. Yep, the Alpha Fighter from Robotech aka Legioss Armo-Fighter from Genesis Climber Mospeada never appeared in Macross. But many Macross fans are friendly to the design because they came up through Robotech or they just like transformable mecha toys of that era. Some are even more Mospeada fans than Macross ones.... Cyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghadrack Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 They can stuff the cyclones. All I want is an Alpha/Legioss and a Beta/Tread.Some Invid/Inbit would be nice as superposables... But I wouldn't buy any Cyclones/Ride Armor if they cost a nickel (I know some other mospeada fans will consider that heresy). Never have liked motorcylces though. Man, I am just the opposite, I always hated the Alpha/Legioss design,, but the Cyclone/Ride Armor on the other hand I thought looked very cool. Now an Alpha/Beta Legioss/Tread linked on the other hand looked really good, I think that is my problem with the Alpha/Legioss, it looks like half a plane to me. Anyhow, I thought I read somewhere that HG/Toynami are the only ones with rights to produce Mospeada toys, so if their line doesn't do it for me, I will probably be out of luck. Here is to hoping for a linking Beta/Tread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 (edited) Anybody know what scale it's supposed to be? 1/55? It looks like they just "copied" the old Imai/Monogram model molds (looks just like it to me). But I like the Alpha; I wouldn't mind getting one, just because the old Gakken toys are way up there on price. But 80 bones just for an HG toy? no way. I'm confident that the price will have to come down. I'll just wait for bigbadtoystore.com to get some in--heck they've got MPC Valks for $35, so they're bound to give a decent price on these... I'd like to see a TF Cyclone toy too--I've got an old 1/6 Gakken, but it's so highly engineered--and as such, fragile--for a toy that I've only transformed it once or twice, then put it in storage for fear of breaking something... Edited January 28, 2004 by reddsun1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cube Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I was actually surprised how sturdy the gakken cyclone was. I used to transform mine all the time and it never felt like it was going to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifand Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I was actually surprised how sturdy the gakken cyclone was. I used to transform mine all the time and it never felt like it was going to break. Mostly true, maybe except for: 1. Knee caps - spring gets detached from soldered anchor. 2. Foot joints - worn out by friction 3. Hip joints - plastic 'clacker' gets brittle over the years and breaks easily. As for the MPC, it looks good enough for a toy but like most folks I feel the price is too high. Unfortunately, without other competitors making a comparable Legioss toy, bargains will be harder to come by... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine23 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 (edited) Hmm.... I can sum up my opinion on this toy in 3 words that somehow are missing from the Robotech.com description. It is wee. Edited January 28, 2004 by Blaine23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hey, if they stick to the $80 per toy rule, I'd be willing to pick it up if the Beta comes out as the same price as their FPs. Assuming there IS one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do not disturb Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 to those hating the $80 price tag, i got 3 words for ya.... "clearance at gamestop". its a USA release, so sales and discounts are to be expected, without any ridiculous shipping fees. i'll probably get the one to check the goods and get the rest on sale cause there no way i'm paying retail for an MPC again. i still got my RH's MPC sitting in my closet cause it doesn't deserved to be displayed. lets hope the same thign doesn't happen to this alpha. on a side note, the thing that bothers me most about these pics is theres no way to tell how big/small it is. if anything, they should take a pic of it next to something like a can of soda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit29 Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Eh it looks alright. It looks better than the one I saw at Comic-con over the summer with the metallic paint scheme. I won't be buying it since I'm not much of an RT New Gen/Mospeada fan. The price is high(like many have said) but this is a Toynami product so it will be 40-60% off in 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom64ss Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 i wouldn't be surprised if the price drops. look at the yf-1r. it was 80, then it dropped to like 50-60 I wouldn't talk when the Yamato VF-1's were ¥6,800 then dropped to like $26 shipped on eBay. That's about 35% of its original worth (assuming S/H was about 6 bucks) compared to the Toynami, which kept at least 62.5% of its value. Yeah, whatever... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=3163466723 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 i wouldn't be surprised if the price drops. look at the yf-1r. it was 80, then it dropped to like 50-60 I wouldn't talk when the Yamato VF-1's were ¥6,800 then dropped to like $26 shipped on eBay. That's about 35% of its original worth (assuming S/H was about 6 bucks) compared to the Toynami, which kept at least 62.5% of its value. Yeah, whatever... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=3163466723 Damn T-64 good deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy's Blues Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 The price has dropped already Ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSkylineGTR Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I was just checking it out on RT's site. It did not say anything about it being 1/55. Hopefully Toynami will up the scale for the Alphas. I dunno if I will pick it up though, not too big of a fan of the Alphas of Mospeada for that matter. Now, the Alpha+Beta on the other hand... On a semi-related note, BBTS buys back old (or fairly recent) toys and I was thinking of selling back alll my MPC Valks w/armor to upgrade to either: A. 3 TV Super VF-1J 1/48's: Hikaru, Max, Millia -or- B. 1/60 Yamatos: S Max, S Millia, S. Hikaru, VF-1S Roy. Decisions, desisions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom64ss Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 i wouldn't be surprised if the price drops. look at the yf-1r. it was 80, then it dropped to like 50-60 I wouldn't talk when the Yamato VF-1's were ¥6,800 then dropped to like $26 shipped on eBay. That's about 35% of its original worth (assuming S/H was about 6 bucks) compared to the Toynami, which kept at least 62.5% of its value. Yeah, whatever... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=3163466723 Damn T-64 good deal Thanks pfunk. I never had any intentions of buying the Macross Saga MPCs, ever, but this price was just too good to pass up. I actually feel like I paid what they're really worth. (25% of the MSRP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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