Mospeada

[m0n5t3r]

13 hours ago, MKT said:

Perhaps 1/60 is influenced from his days at T-REX, and he did work on some of Yamato's Macross stuff. But not complaining since it's the best scale going smaller than Sentinel's.

Didn't work out any numbers, but 1/60 would prolly be in the ballpark of the HMR VF-1 size.. I can see it being a good desk toy. 

 

 

5 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

"Canon" size aside, the Legioss looks stupidly tiny compared with anything modern, to the point that it's not even believable.  The 1/48 cockpit is cramped enough that it looks like it should be 1/60 anyway.

Yeah, 1/60 for the Legioss will definitely be tiny. Displaying it with the HMRs might be okay from afar but when you focus on the cockpit and pilot... just like how it's weird for me when the I put my Riobot Iota side-by-side with the 3Zero VF-1S in fighter and I look at the pilot figures. Battroid/Soldier mode might be a different story. 

I hope 1/60 scale will make it more feasible to produce different versions of the Tread. 

10 hours ago, Raikkonen said:

Hmmm... again I'm rereading this several times to see where does he confirm it's 1/60... 😅

 

Still wondering what that "reason" is and the details behind it. I hope it's more Mospeada or Genesis Breaker related instead of Robotech. 

[jenius]

Took out my Tread, put it on its landing gear and, so far, I'm very impressed. 

[505thAirborne]

36 minutes ago, jenius said:

Took out my Tread, put it on its landing gear and, so far, I'm very impressed. 

Looking forward to your review. 

[davidwhangchoi]

On 7/28/2025 at 2:52 PM, Froy said:

 

nice review, i'll keep my preorder

[Sildani]

Mine just shipped from Nin-Nin, so I’m glad I avoided their curse. 
 

Now I just need a Legioss. 

[Perxion]

46 minutes ago, Sildani said:

Mine just shipped from Nin-Nin, so I’m glad I avoided their curse. 
 

Now I just need a Legioss. 

Mine was also shipped from NinNin, but I think the earthquake stopped it in its tracks. 🤐

[jenius]

1 hour ago, Sildani said:

Mine just shipped from Nin-Nin, so I’m glad I avoided their curse. 
 

Now I just need a Legioss. 

Yes, happy to have my Tread but my Legioss hasn't shipped from Hobby Genki.

[RavenHawk]

On 7/28/2025 at 7:08 PM, jenius said:

Toynamishop shows it will be available again in August/September. Hopefully I'll snag one then. 

That makes me question the premium price which, among other reasons, is supposed to be due to it being limited to only 500

[jenius]

They probably only put an initial portion of the 500 for sale which is why it was gone so quick.

[Mog]

Can it grip it?

Yep!  And I don’t need the trigger extension like with the Toynami Beta:

As you can see, the head doesn’t exactly turn much without having a heavy tilt.  So, the Toynami wins out on that front.

But yeah, just went through a solo bomber transformation process.  Absolutely ingenious how they fit the landing gear in there and incorporate tabs to keep everything locked in.

Digging how everything tabs or hides with this rendition.  Lot of nice little improvements everywhere with the design.

The chest is not as wide and “beefy” as the Toynami.  But the Sentinel’s bomber mode is definitely less gappy than Toynami’s, as a result.

Sentinel’s forearms are also slightly bigger and not as rectangular as the Toynami’s.

Gonna snap some bomber comparison pics now.

[Mog]

Apologies in advance:  the old girl was exposed to the sun over the years and yellowed in spots.  And the yellow cockpit windows have gotten scuffed from being in fighter combo mode.

Also, forgot to push out the two circles in the middle of BOTH bombers’ chests.

 

BOMBER COMPARISONS:

As I alluded to above, the Sentinel Legioss’ design definitely helped to reduce the gaps in the Tread’s bomber mode and greatly reduced the length of the connecting boom.  

The Toynami’s chest is wider, but also very gappy in comparison:

You can also see that the Toynami tends to “look” wider and flatter.  While the Sentinel tends to have more of a curvy look.

Also, if you don’t put down the middle booster flap, the Toynami is a bit back heavy and wants to tilt back.  However, that little flap is a lot stronger and firmer on the Toynami than it is on the Sentinel.

Lastly, the Sentinel has a deeper, almost Macross/SDF-1 blue, while the Toynami has a more grayish blue hue.

Pilots:

Sucks that Sentinel’s is fixed pose too.  But the Sentinel does have one additional opening the Toynami doesn’t have:

My eyes and my hands are gonna hate trying to paint this fixed pose bastard. 
 

EDIT:  Just discovered you can lower the cockpit further down.  Whoops:

Edited Thursday at 04:57 AM by Mog

[davidwhangchoi]

53 minutes ago, Mog said:

Apologies in advance:  the old girl was exposed to the sun over the years and yellowed in spots.  And the yellow cockpit windows have gotten scuffed from being in fighter combo mode.

Also, forgot to push out the two circles in the middle of BOTH bombers’ chests.

 

BOMBER COMPARISONS:

As I alluded to above, the Sentinel Legioss’ design definitely helped to reduce the gaps in the Tread’s bomber mode and greatly reduced the length of the connecting boom.  

The Toynami’s chest is wider, but also very gappy in comparison:

You can also see that the Toynami tends to “look” wider and flatter.  While the Sentinel tends to have more of a curvy look.

Also, if you don’t put down the middle booster flap, the Toynami is a bit back heavy and wants to tilt back.  However, that little flap is a lot stronger and firmer on the Toynami than it is on the Sentinel.

Lastly, the Sentinel has a deeper, almost Macross/SDF-1 blue, while the Toynami has a more grayish blue hue.

Pilots:

Sucks that Sentinel’s is fixed pose too.  But the Sentinel does have one additional opening the Toynami doesn’t have:

My eyes and my hands are gonna hate trying to paint this fixed pose bastard. 
 

EDIT:  Just discovered you can lower the cockpit further down.  Whoops:

so which one is better

[tekering]

That's a cool weathering job you did on your Masterpiece Beta, @Mog.

Mine still has that "new toy" look. 😉

50 minutes ago, Mog said:

Sentinel has a deeper, almost Macross/SDF-1 blue, while the Toynami has a more grayish blue hue

I'd say the Toynami is closer to the SDF-1 color scheme, whereas Sentinel's blue is more VF-1J Max...

Prolonged exposure to sunlight may have exaggerated the color difference on yours. 🤔

2 minutes ago, davidwhangchoi said:

so which one is better

That's either a rhetorical question, or you're just being facetious. 😅

[Mog]

34 minutes ago, tekering said:

That's a cool weathering job you did on your Masterpiece Beta, @Mog.

 

That’s just dust, not weathering. 😁

I did sticker and panel-line her up years ago, along with making a bigger “MB 07” stickers for the wing.

I wish I had more Danger and No Step stickers left from the Toynami’s (yes, plural).  But we’ll see what I can pull off.  

40 minutes ago, davidwhangchoi said:

so which one is better

Still gotta check out the fighter combo.

Understand, I still absolutely love my old Toynami Betas; they been the unquestioned king for over 15 years now.

But my goodness, the Sentinel is a REVOLUTIONARY improvement to the Tread/Beta.  It’s like going from the 1/55 Takatoku to the Yamato 1/48.

I mean, I always said someone could reduce the gappy-ness and better integrate the cockpit for soldier mode.  Sentinel did that.

Then they incorporated the connecting boom AND solid landing gear directly into the figure (and not as separate pieces?)?!?!  WHAT?!

I’m just amazed at all the little tricks and bits this figure pulled off.  Just all sorts of nice decisions you can see in the design.  There’s some markings I’d personally change, as personal preferences.  And the limited range of motion on the head is frustrating.

But this is the design that all future Treads/Beta Fighters should be based off of.

It’s that damn good.

We have a new king. 👑 

[m0n5t3r]

1 hour ago, Mog said:

 

My eyes and my hands are gonna hate trying to paint this fixed pose bastard. 
 

EDIT:  Just discovered you can lower the cockpit further down.  Whoops:

Those cockpit features are a nice touch.

[davidwhangchoi]

1 hour ago, Mog said:

That’s just dust, not weathering. 😁

I did sticker and panel-line her up years ago, along with making a bigger “MB 07” stickers for the wing.

I wish I had more Danger and No Step stickers left from the Toynami’s (yes, plural).  But we’ll see what I can pull off.  

Still gotta check out the fighter combo.

Understand, I still absolutely love my old Toynami Betas; they been the unquestioned king for over 15 years now.

But my goodness, the Sentinel is a REVOLUTIONARY improvement to the Tread/Beta.  It’s like going from the 1/55 Takatoku to the Yamato 1/48.

I mean, I always said someone could reduce the gappy-ness and better integrate the cockpit for soldier mode.  Sentinel did that.

Then they incorporated the connecting boom AND solid landing gear directly into the figure (and not as separate pieces?)?!?!  WHAT?!

I’m just amazed at all the little tricks and bits this figure pulled off.  Just all sorts of nice decisions you can see in the design.  There’s some markings I’d personally change, as personal preferences.  And the limited range of motion on the head is frustrating.

But this is the design that all future Treads/Beta Fighters should be based off of.

It’s that damn good.

We have a new king. 👑 

that's good to know. sounds like i got my review.

2 hours ago, tekering said:

That's either a rhetorical question, or you're just being facetious. 😅

Well, you never know...  the riobot bikes can break. i may take the old beagle bikes over the new riobots.

 

I hope that huge robotech alpha fighter will  or someone someday have individual removable micro missiles or have some smoke effect parts.  

[pablumatic]

BBTS has the Pose + Legioss for preorder. $569.99

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/329760

From the page:

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$114.00 Non-Refundable Down Payment Required

Includes Tariff Surcharge (Details Below)

 

Tariff info:

Edited Thursday at 04:22 PM by pablumatic

[26662]

Nin-Nin:

“Thank you for choosing Nin-Nin Game!
We regret to inform you that the pre-paid shipping fees are insufficient to cover the actual shipping costs. Your order requires additional shipping payment or the selection of a shipping method that does not incur an extra fee. This can occur for various reasons, and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.”

😞  

Well, stow my pitchfork!  Looks like it’s only gonna cost an extra $4.65.  I can live with that.

 

Edited Thursday at 04:41 PM by 26662

[Mog]

Allegedly, Amazon said the price I paid went down on the Tread. . . to a whopping US$6 or $7.

Can upgrade to a venti coffee today!

[Mog]

So, I’m using the extra support part:

Done. 

I always imagined the Legioss boosters merging into the chest circles on the Tread.  The Sentinel combo has the Legioss sitting a little higher, a noticeable smidge above the chest circles.

BUT are you seeing that picture above?!  I ain’t touching the Legioss AT ALL. 

[m0n5t3r]

13 minutes ago, Mog said:

So, I’m using the extra support part:

Done. 

I always imagined the Legioss boosters merging into the chest circles on the Tread.  The Sentinel combo has the Legioss sitting a little higher, a noticeable smidge above the chest circles.

BUT are you seeing that picture above?!  I ain’t touching the Legioss AT ALL. 

Awesome! Testing it that way never even entered my mind. 

Edited yesterday at 01:00 AM by m0n5t3r

[Perxion]

I think the Sentinel toy line is the ultimate Mospeada collection. The best yet, and the definitive one.
Quality, design, engineering, color, aesthetics, fidelity, etc etc...
Well done, Sentinel.

[26662]

18 hours ago, pablumatic said:

BBTS has the Pose + Legioss for preorder. $569.99

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/329760

From the page:

 

Tariff info:

Can anyone vouch for Robot Toy Base or Kicks Generation Toys?  Both are taking deposits ($20.00) for the POSE+ Legioss.  The prices quoted below are more reasonable than BBTS, but these prices don't include S&H: I imagine the final prices will all be within a couple $10 dollars of each other.

https://robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=8238

USD439.9 +  shipping charge by airmail

https://www.kicksgenerationtoys.com/collections/pose

USD475.00 + S&H

[General Rasp]

3 hours ago, 26662 said:

Can anyone vouch for Robot Toy Base or Kicks Generation Toys?  Both are taking deposits ($20.00) for the POSE+ Legioss.  The prices quoted below are more reasonable than BBTS, but these prices don't include S&H: I imagine the final prices will all be within a couple $10 dollars of each other.

https://robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=8238

USD439.9 +  shipping charge by airmail

https://www.kicksgenerationtoys.com/collections/pose

USD475.00 + S&H

I can vouch for Kicks Generation Toys. I purchased a MoShow Toys figure from them and I came in perfect condition. Shipping was fast, packaging was good, no damage to the box or the figure. Shipping for the Pose+ Legioss should be free from them, orders over $250 get free shipping. 

[vladykins]

 

Got my shipping notice for the tread from Yoyaku- about $52 to ship DHL, so not as bad as I thought it might end up being. 

[Mog]

7 hours ago, Perxion said:

I think the Sentinel toy line is the ultimate Mospeada collection. The best yet, and the definitive one.
Quality, design, engineering, color, aesthetics, fidelity, etc etc...
Well done, Sentinel.

I agree with this sentiment.

Yes, there’s some bad issues (the troubled joints on the Ride Armors prone to cracking/breaking, minor chipping/scratching that can happen to the torso, parts that can pop off but are thankfully easy to pop back on).

And some of the design choices can be annoying (Hot Pink Houquet , the overly busy HUD lines on the visors, the uncolored pilots for the birds).

AND I’m still pissed over the fixed pose pilot for the Tread, not tossing in Rey’s bike with the Tread, and initially hiding the missiles behind a Japan only paywall.

But they actually completed the hero line:  the main four bikes, the three Legioss colors, and the Tread.  

Sure there’s Shinobu’s bike, the Dark Legioss, the drone Legiosses, different colored Treads, and the whole Inbit crew that can still be done.

But somehow, Sentinel completed a Mospeada collection, something that only CM’s has ever been able to accomplish.

Just the improvements to the Legioss’ and Tread’s designs alone should be celebrated.  How they pulled off some of those ideas is amazing.

And yes, all these figures have no issues holding dynamic poses.

So yes, Sentinel should take a victory lap and enjoy this tip of the hat 

[Protoman]

Here's a video of the Super Scale Legioss

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Protoman

[Mog]

Some more comparison pics:

So obviously if you have to choose between the Sentinel or the Toynami, go with the Sentinel. . . . because the Toynami Alpha is just that awful.

However, there are a few things that the Toynami Beta still does better than the Sentinel Tread:

- Head turns - the Toynami head may lack and up/down tilt.  But its head turns so much better.

- Chest - the Sentinel clearly has the better missile layout.  But I wished the missile bay doors could drop just a smidge more.  It looks like the bay doors block the path of the bottom row of missiles.

- Chest Size - the Toynami chest is definitely bigger and wider.  The proportions on the Sentinel aren’t bad necessarily.  But it kinda looks like the Sentinel Tread never skips legs and forearm day.  But doesn’t exactly put in the work on chest day.

- Legs - The Sentinel can do a solid A stance, but it’s not as wide as the Toynami’s.  Further, the knee articulation in soldier mode is a little more limiting on the Sentinel.  Neither will be able to do the Black Widow hero pose, but the Toynami has slightly better leg articulation.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mog

[jenius]

In the chest section you missed how terrible the cockpit looks hanging down the middle. Also... the big box that is the Toynami chest may look 'beefier' but it's not more correct. 

[Mog]

I always looked at the cockpit sternum as a compromise.  It didn’t bug me as much back then.  If anything, the gaps in bomber mode bugged me more.

Obviously, Sentinel came up with a slick solution to that whole issue.  And the fact you can still have the pilot pop out of the top in soldier and combo mode? <chef’s kiss>

[twich]

39 minutes ago, jenius said:

In the chest section you missed how terrible the cockpit looks hanging down the middle. Also... the big box that is the Toynami chest may look 'beefier' but it's not more correct. 

Hey Jenius,

Are you planning on acquiring and doing a video on the Pose + 1/28 Legioss?  Just curious, I look forward to all of your videos, even if I do not plan on purchasing the collectible contained therein or not.

Twich