tekering Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, Tober said: So surely the attachment points on the top of the missile pod and forearms are for a Tread..? Oh, wow. I was so taken aback by the absent legs, I hadn't even noticed those attachment points. Yes, that's precisely where the Tread would connect with the Legioss... in Armo-Fighter mode, at least. I don't know what Sentinel thinks they're doing, but they're completely ignoring the 35-year legacy of Mospeada toys. The fighter mode is supposed to have the legs hanging off the back, not tucked in like the animation design... and you're supposed to provide a lousy sticker sheet, not print tampographed details on the toy. And what's with the navigation lights on the wings? You don't paint details like that on a Legioss toy. Most insulting of all, it looks like they've engineered the fighter with built-in attachment points for a Tread, which is totally against the spirit of the Legioss design. Have they no respect for tradition? The Tread is supposed to be an awkwardly-designed afterthought, with no secure way of connecting it to the Legioss. How arrogant and presumptuous they must be to plan these things out in advance. Who do they think they are, Bandai? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 My only concern is that those connection points seem kinda deep, especially if there gonna keep the Legioss' middle missile rack in place during combined mode. The Tread's chest/sternum would be butting right up against it. But it's good to see Sentinel coming out of its winter hibernation, guns blazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, jenius said: I imagine the wings are in a hinge so you could probably have them straight if you prefer As I said the problem isn't a slight cant with the wings, the problem is it's too severe in these pics. They don't have to be totally flat, I don't even want them totally flat. Hopefully you're right and they can be adjusted up a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tober Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Yeah, only the Drone and Dark Legioss have their gun top-mounted - and between the arms, not above. For the Legioss to transform attached to the Tread there would still have to be a main bar on the underside. It's just not a traditional Legioss and Tread combo if the Legioss doesn't fall off the connection bar if you roll it more than 30°. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I've never owned a previous Legioss/Tread combo before. Where are these attachment points you guys are referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tober Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mommar said: I've never owned a previous Legioss/Tread combo before. Where are these attachment points you guys are referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Should it attach to the missile box as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyl Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tober said: The center one is for attaching gun, using the magazine attachment point. The two on the arms are probably for Tread, may be two attachment "arms" swing out from under Tread's "chest" missile pods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwhangchoi Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 i want this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navtek Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Mommar said: Up at Amazon Japan now too. https://www.amazon.co.jp/RIOBOT-VR-041H-ブロウスーペリア-12スケール-アクションフィギュア/dp/B07QB24R2W/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=riobot&qid=1554781898&s=hobby&sr=1-2 21,200 Yen with shipping. Thanks for posting. Got mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 except for the wings down, i like the fighter mode. hopefully they can be put straight out. its looks tight. looks like i can finally sell my toynami mpc alphas and betas? i know the scott/blue alpha goes for a lot these days but i coudln't let it go without a replacement coming in. i just recently opened my evolution toys guys (and the soldier mode is far superior to these IMO) and enjoying them currently except the dumb hands. they are great for shelf presence in soldier mode...being bigger than yamato v2 vf-1s. these could be great for combined mode (the toynamis are passble there but not great and evo toys probably won't make a huge tlead that i would have zero room for anyway) display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 3 hours ago, tekering said: I don't know what Sentinel thinks they're doing, but they're completely ignoring the 35-year legacy of Mospeada toys. The fighter mode is supposed to have the legs hanging off the back, not tucked in like the animation design... and you're supposed to provide a lousy sticker sheet, not print tampographed details on the toy. And what's with the navigation lights on the wings? You don't paint details like that on a Legioss toy. Most insulting of all, it looks like they've engineered the fighter with built-in attachment points for a Tread, which is totally against the spirit of the Legioss design. Have they no respect for tradition? The Tread is supposed to be an awkwardly-designed afterthought, with no secure way of connecting it to the Legioss. How arrogant and presumptuous they must be to plan these things out in advance. Who do they think they are, Bandai? I see what you did there, @tekering. 1 hour ago, davidwhangchoi said: i want this! I want it too, @davidwhangchoi. 46 minutes ago, Mechapilot77 said: i just recently opened my evolution toys guys (and the soldier mode is far superior to these IMO) and enjoying them currently except the dumb hands. they are great for shelf presence in soldier mode...being bigger than yamato v2 vf-1s. these could be great for combined mode (the toynamis are passble there but not great and evo toys probably won't make a huge tlead that i would have zero room for anyway) display. Hmmm. That's too early to say, right? You have to compare both first in your hands to claim what's superior. Besides, Sentinel's size looks more practical to have a Thread than EvoToy's Legioss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 12 hours ago, RavenHawk said: Looks like Sentinel finally had to design a new stand. That is not a new stand. That's been around for years now with their bigger figures. I first got one of those with their Re:Edit Hulkbuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, ArchieNov said: That is not a new stand. That's been around for years now with their bigger figures. I first got one of those with their Re:Edit Hulkbuster. Fair enough. Thanks. I'd never seen it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convectuoso Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Seems like I should sale my MPC Alpha before I even take it off the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 ^^If you like the combined fighter mode, I’d wait until Sentinel confirms outright that they’re doing a Tread. But if you’re only interested in the standalone Legioss, I’d still wait for reviews before selling the MPC. Looks promising, but want to see how solidly locked in place the fighter mode is, the ground clearance in fighter mode, and want to see how strong the joints are in Armo Soldier mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 NY has it up now too, 17800, got my 2 ordered. https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/27893-riobot-vr-041h-blow-superior-yellow.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Photos, pricing, and release month from Miyazawa Mokei Spring 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Smacky said: NY has it up now too, 17800, got my 2 ordered. https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/27893-riobot-vr-041h-blow-superior-yellow.html Are you in US? And what shipping method you used for your order? I tried to check if I will save more if I use them this time for 2 figures. And found out it's around $398, almost $400 if I use EMS. That way, I rather go with BBTS if I didn't order at AmazonJP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enphily Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: Photos, pricing, and release month from Miyazawa Mokei Spring 2019. They increased price? O_o Edited April 9, 2019 by enphily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 I'll be living vicariously through you guys on this one, 28,000 yen is a bit steep for me at this point. But damn if that Legioss doesn't look amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: Are you in US? And what shipping method you used for your order? I tried to check if I will save more if I use them this time for 2 figures. And found out it's around $398, almost $400 if I use EMS. That way, I rather go with BBTS if I didn't order at AmazonJP. I'm in Canada which charges duties for importing toys, so I try to almost always go with NY since they declare a really low value so I never get dinged with the fees. It came out to 44300Y for 2 shipped with EMS, cheaper than 400USD + shipping at BBTS + import duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said: I'll be living vicariously through you guys on this one, 28,000 yen is a bit steep for me at this point. But damn if that Legioss doesn't look amazing. My collection is centered around bikes, so I've been doing the 2 of each of the ride armors (fortunately the gf has no idea how much these things cost, or I'd be getting some dirty looks). I was planning on skipping the Legioss... but who am I kidding? It's MOSPEADA, and it's Sentinel (all good experiences with their products so far), so I think I'll get the one blue Legioss, and be done with it. 28,000 yen is a lot of money, though may not be unreasonable for this product. Still, I think you'll see less folks doing multiples, or even one of each color, than with products that manage to stay under the 20,000 yen line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said: I'll be living vicariously through you guys on this one, 28,000 yen is a bit steep for me at this point. But damn if that Legioss doesn't look amazing. 16 minutes ago, RavenHawk said: My collection is centered around bikes, so I've been doing the 2 of each of the ride armors (fortunately the gf has no idea how much these things cost, or I'd be getting some dirty looks). I was planning on skipping the Legioss... but who am I kidding? It's MOSPEADA, and it's Sentinel (all good experiences with their products so far), so I think I'll get the one blue Legioss, and be done with it. 28,000 yen is a lot of money, though may not be unreasonable for this product. Still, I think you'll see less folks doing multiples, or even one of each color, than with products that manage to stay under the 20,000 yen line. After seeing that price, I'm re-evaluating if I should get two. I really want it since this is the first time I'm going to have a transforming Legioss -- ever. I used to have the red transforming Legioss back in the 80's but that's a history and forgotten now. So I know, this time I really need it. It looks better than EvoToys and the size is more manageable. But after that price increase. IIRC, they showed the first prototype with a Y24000 price tag, I believe. Anyways, will think about this but I'm definitely going to get it. How many, I'm not sure now. 23 minutes ago, Smacky said: I'm in Canada which charges duties for importing toys, so I try to almost always go with NY since they declare a really low value so I never get dinged with the fees. It came out to 44300Y for 2 shipped with EMS, cheaper than 400USD + shipping at BBTS + import duties. Thanks Smacky. Thought you're in the US, so I was going to advise just go with Amazon or BBTS if it's going to have the same price as NY's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 oof 28000 yen is a lot...not that the evo toys were a good buy for their price (not at all "worth" it but was wroth it to me) either and i'd be on this for sure if i hadn't just bought the evo toys versions in the past year or so. hmmm....may sit it out afterall. was hoping this would be under 20k yen each. i caved a year ago, should i cave again? and yes i have to see wafter they are released what is superior but i do like the sculpt of the evo toys soldier mode better than what we've seen shown previously for the sentinel's soldier mode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: Thanks Smacky. Thought you're in the US, so I was going to advise just go with Amazon or BBTS if it's going to have the same price as NY's. Actually you’re right. I just checked on Amazon, they charge 37564 for 2, 1800 S&H plus 5033 for import fees deposit, comes out to 44397, 97 more than I paid at NY. I’d rather have ordered from AJ than NY, especially after the crap NY pulled with the DX VF-1A, but lesson learned for next time, AJ as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 That Legioss is amazing. They knocked it out of the park. It's got perfect proportions and the legs are nice and compact in fighter mode! Day 1 pre-order for me barring some financial crisis. I was going to skip the Bikes (I like my Beagle just fine) but I almost want to buy one now to go with the Legioss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, danth said: That Legioss is amazing. They knocked it out of the park. It's got perfect proportions and the legs are nice and compact in fighter mode! Day 1 pre-order for me barring some financial crisis. I was going to skip the Bikes (I like my Beagle just fine) but I almost want to buy one now to go with the Legioss. Yeah. But Beagle doesn't have Yellow nor officially released Houquet after the prototype stage. So now is the perfect time to complete the Ride Armors. Edited April 9, 2019 by no3Ljm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 How much should we charge for our Legioss? > People are paying 28k for the evolution toy! Ours is way better so we'll charge the same and dominate. Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, jenius said: How much should we charge for our Legioss? > People are paying 28k for the evolution toy! Ours is way better so we'll charge the same and dominate. Yay! Dominate for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convectuoso Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 ¥28000 is a lot, but I guess I can still sell my Toynami MPC for almost the same, maybe even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tober Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 https://www.facebook.com/groups/Popdeculture/permalink/632971300449506/?sfnsn=mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convectuoso Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tober said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Popdeculture/permalink/632971300449506/?sfnsn=mo The hands look a bit small on those pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHobo Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 The price is pretty disappointing since the legioss is honestly quite small in 1/48 scale. Sentinel continues to gouge prices. The ride armors were of a somewhat okay price tag, but 28k for the legioss is a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tober said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Popdeculture/permalink/632971300449506/?sfnsn=mo The Legioss on that photo stream are old. The price tag still says Y25000 not Y28000. And the release month still says July instead of September. Which I believe it's the first time we saw how much it's going to be. Edited April 10, 2019 by no3Ljm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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