Valkyrie Driver Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 You're that friend who is like "you've already talked yourself into buying it because reasons, why are you asking me? Ass." Thank you. You're welcome. This man speaks the truth... we have all been there. Unless the VF-19Advance counts as a duplicate for my Yamato YF-19, I have not done this... yet... It's coming though. On my wishlist is: VF-27 gamma Brera Sterne VF-171EX super parts set YF-30 YF-25 The rest of SMS Skull squadron (R/VF-25S/G/F)(I have the VF-25F alto) VF-19F (duplicate) VF-19S VF-1A/J (J with GPB) Destroid Defender VF-25 super parts So yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Perhaps. Finally in a place financially where doing more than talking about buying is an actual thing for me. Thanks for the support! haha Was just looking at your website. Creeper. =P Which adapter would I ​need for the Bandai 19? Will the Arcadia work? Also, which would I need if I just wanted to display it in fighter? Thanks. The 19 advance uses the DX adapters found here and here. You could just get this to dip your foot in the pool, too. It will work with the stand base the valk comes with. You're welcome. Unless the VF-19Advance counts as a duplicate for my Yamato YF-19, I have not done this... yet... It's coming though. On my wishlist is: VF-27 gamma Brera Sterne VF-171EX super parts set YF-30 YF-25 The rest of SMS Skull squadron (R/VF-25S/G/F)(I have the VF-25F alto) VF-19F (duplicate) VF-19S VF-1A/J (J with GPB) Destroid Defender VF-25 super parts So yeah... Some of your wants can still be found for a decent price at hkcollectibles. I have ordered from them several times, and have had nothing but good experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Some of your wants can still be found for a decent price at hkcollectibles. I have ordered from them several times, and have had nothing but good experiences. If only I had money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Thanks Yeti, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikElvis Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Since it was posted I decided to look at hkcollectibles and picked up a 17s for $118 plus ship. Not bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I need to stay away from there, or I will wind up buying more VF-19s. My 19 collection is close to rivaling my set of VF-1s, and considering how many there are of those, that's saying something. Last count, I think I have 15.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogze Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 While posing my 19Advance in battroid I noticed I wasn't able to get the arms in some "across the chest" positions because it has no swivel at the bicep which is weird. Because Bandai really went out of their way to implement a waist joint which is arguably useless but still cool nonetheless. But why is there no bicep swivel? One can even spin the forearm which is of no use pose-wise because it is under the double jointed elbow... Am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It does have a Bicep swivel how else would I have been able to do this: ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I need to stay away from there, or I will wind up buying more VF-19s. My 19 collection is close to rivaling my set of VF-1s, and considering how many there are of those, that's saying something. Last count, I think I have 15.. wow! 15 19's! which ones do you have!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I bought a few multiples with the intention of customizing them.. last count is at least 2 of each, with 3 of the 19F and 19P I think. I hate the thought of modifying something only to trash it, so I bought backups. I plan on reworking one of the 19Ps into a white 19F somehow, possibly with shapeways printed wing components. I hesitate to paint anything, because the tolerances on those things are so incredibly tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's great. After I received my first one, I immediately bought a second, as I liked it so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I do want another, but I'll be satisfied with my one for now, I'll wait for a repaint to get a duplicate... PLEASE DO A LOW VIS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I bought a few multiples with the intention of customizing them.. last count is at least 2 of each, with 3 of the 19F and 19P I think. I wonder what are your plans to paint these. Playing with my 19p, it is really tight and I cant help and be scared of Paint chipping. This is very different with let's say a 25, which imo, with proper transformation, paint chips can be minimized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogze Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It does have a Bicep swivel how else would I have been able to do this: ? That's not a bicep swivel, maybe I've been watching too many toy review videos because I thought it was something everyone here understood ;P a bicep swivel should allow the arm to rotate (360) at the bicep, every DX valk has had it so far, except this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 That's not a bicep swivel, maybe I've been watching too many toy review videos because I thought it was something everyone here understood ;P a bicep swivel should allow the arm to rotate (360) at the bicep, every DX valk has had it so far, except this one You know, I didn't play around with the battroid mode much, but now that you mention it and after thinking about it, it does limit the range of motion that putting the swivel above the elbow joint affords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I do want another, but I'll be satisfied with my one for now, I'll wait for a repaint to get a duplicate... PLEASE DO A LOW VIS! absolutely yes! A low vis or simply a standard issue CF grey paint (as pictured below) would be epic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Somehow, that grey low vis scheme looks kinda boring to me... Looks like it's just a dirty tin can kind of color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Somehow, that grey low vis scheme looks kinda boring to me... Looks like it's just a dirty tin can kind of color. Bring on the dirty tin cans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 That's not a bicep swivel, maybe I've been watching too many toy review videos because I thought it was something everyone here understood ;P a bicep swivel should allow the arm to rotate (360) at the bicep, every DX valk has had it so far, except this one I'm looking at my advance right now, and the swivel is just below the first joint of the elbow, down from the shoulder. So I guess it's not a bicep swivel per se, but it's still incredibly poseable... I've still managed to get some cross the chest poses on the arms. So I'm having a hard time understanding your complaint. Maybe yours is just really stiff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I'm looking at my advance right now, and the swivel is just below the first joint of the elbow, down from the shoulder. So I guess it's not a bicep swivel per se, but it's still incredibly poseable... I've still managed to get some cross the chest poses on the arms. So I'm having a hard time understanding your complaint. Maybe yours is just really stiff? Cool. Btw, is it below or above the uniboob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Cool. Btw, is it below or above the uniboob? I can get the arms across the chest both above and below the uniboob, if that's what you meant. As for the swivel,if that's what you were inquiring about, if the arms are perpendicular to the ground, the swivel is below the level of the uniboob, just above the elbow joint at the forearm. I hope those answer the questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Somehow, that grey low vis scheme looks kinda boring to me... Looks like it's just a dirty tin can kind of color. I really like that dirty tin can look! Gives it that deployed / used look! I know that if they ever made that grey CF color that it wouldn't have the dirty look but the grey really appeals to me just like real life fighters in the field. It would be an instant buy for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I'm looking at my advance right now, and the swivel is just below the first joint of the elbow, down from the shoulder. So I guess it's not a bicep swivel per se, but it's still incredibly poseable... I've still managed to get some cross the chest poses on the arms. So I'm having a hard time understanding your complaint. Maybe yours is just really stiff? It's not really a matter of stiffness. I'll illustrate the difference in the implementations for having the swivel above or below the elbow joint: Here, Ozma can swing his arms outward and make use of the double joint and do a flex. Isamu can only make use of one and can only go a max of 90 degrees. Using the second joint would only cause the arms to fold forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It's not really a matter of stiffness. I'll illustrate the difference in the implementations for having the swivel above or below the elbow joint: Here, Ozma can swing his arms outward and make use of the double joint and do a flex. Isamu can only make use of one and can only go a max of 90 degrees. Using the second joint would only cause the arms to fold forward. I see your point. Then I suppose it's a function of the arm transformation mechanism. I'm guessing there really wasn't a way to get a true bicep swivel and do the transformation the way they wanted it? I'll have to think on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogze Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Thanks for your input MJ, your picture illustrates exactly what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 They could have done the swivel at the bicep not that I look at it, and think about it. I don't know why they chose to do it the way they did. Even with the odd placement of that swivel I find the toy more than adequate for my wants and desires. Unless there was some kind of problem with putting the swivel in the bicep that we don't know about, I mean I took a closer look at the shoulder and bicep area, and it just looks like there's a lot going on there, maybe they didn't wan't to introduce a failure point into that area. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogze Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It's not a big deal but it did prevent me from getting some poses, actually I was quite surprised when I realized that the swivel wasn't above the double elbow joints but in between. I'm kind of torn on this toy, between my admiration for Bandai making some really intricate design choices (mostly the waist joint, ball jointed shoulders) and the fact that these are also not very useable while posing the toy. The shoulders can barely move 1mm forth and back and the waist can only barely rotate (I dented the plastic around the hip joint while using it the first time). Also wish Bandai made the extra work to make the gunpod stow in the shield because that is a simple yet cool feature on the Arcadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah I would have preferred the gun stow gimmick over the head/neck cover. They already packed one in the box for Gerwalk and that seems sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It's back on NY for Y28000 before shipping just in case some people might want to get another copy or to those who doesn't have a copy yet. https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/10446-macross-f-dx-chogokin-vf-19-advance.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Im tempted. the more I play with it the better i get at the transform, and the tighter I can get her in tighter. i still think she is a little over engineered, but time has made me like it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 The Arcadia triple hinge kinda bothers me now that I've seen how Bandai executed it. It just looks better, and the Yamato was very similar. The Bandai feels like they took the best parts of the yamato, and the arcadia, designed the toy, and redesigned it with the new features they waned to add. While the toy does seem over engineered at first blush, it doesn't seem fiddly enough to be called that. I'm not tempted to get another one in the Isamu Colors, but if they do repaints I'm getting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roanstalker Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The Arcadia triple hinge kinda bothers me now that I've seen how Bandai executed it. It just looks better, and the Yamato was very similar. The Bandai feels like they took the best parts of the yamato, and the arcadia, designed the toy, and redesigned it with the new features they waned to add. While the toy does seem over engineered at first blush, it doesn't seem fiddly enough to be called that. That triple hinge and the gap on tp pof the chest right above the nose cone on the Yamato/Arcasia 19s are my main gripes. and probably the ankle ball joints. Still cant wait to get the VF-19 Kai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 What this triple hinge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 What this triple hinge? I think they're referring to the the VF-19Adv leg's colapsible covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 What this triple hinge? I think they're referring to the the VF-19Adv leg's colapsible covers. I was referring to the mechanism the Yamato VF-19/Arcadia YF-19 uses to bring the spine and upper torso up and over the cockpit block. The Bandai uses a similar extending mechanism to the Yamato YF-19, only better engineered and die-cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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