Brand-X Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I wouldn't mind seeing a reappearance of a previous Valkyrie, but I'm really hoping we get at least a couple new designs. I'm not a huge fan of the YF-30 but I could see it being used in some capacity, I just hope we don't start seeing the VF-xx1 becoming a trend. It'd get awfully boring if every new Macross series just created cannon fodder versions of the previous hero Valk. VF-251, VF-301, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 So we're gonna argue over M7 being great or terrible on this thread too😡 Sheesh.. It all comes down to personal taste-so everyone is right😅 Onto the Dealta(?) Topic.. Ya , I hope there's a continuation of innovation along the story line. Granted the main viewing audience (they write the show for) are Japanese teenagers. But every generation teenagers are evolving more&more. I won't be surprised to see vf-25's , vf-29's & 30's in the new series. Most definitely modified / upgraded. I think we will see new Vaks& I'm excitedl to see what the "bad guys" Mecha look like too. All I greall want to know, at this point is when do I get to see it? In like 18 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I wouldn't mind seeing a reappearance of a previous Valkyrie, but I'm really hoping we get at least a couple new designs. I'm not a huge fan of the YF-30 but I could see it being used in some capacity, I just hope we don't start seeing the VF-xx1 becoming a trend. It'd get awfully boring if every new Macross series just created cannon fodder versions of the previous hero Valk. VF-251, VF-301, etc. I totally disagree. I love what they did with the VF-17 becoming the VF-171. In that example, it's not just the same valk with a different number. There are numerous design elements that were tweaked and I think the 171 is preferable to the 17. From a practical standpoint, it also gives toy manufacturers a reason to pursue making toys out of vehicles that previously didn't get much love. Would we have ever gotten a sweet VF-11B toy from Yamato if they didn't also have the opportunity to make the VF-11C from Macross7? I doubt it. So either rehashing a previous design for cannon fodder duty or doing a slight revision with some plot macguffin to give heroic paint schemes both get big thumbs up from me. Bring on the VF-211 (yeah, that's not gonna happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyg Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 But it was almost what they did with the VF-22, in a lot of ways. The VF-171 just tweaked it quite a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyp Durron Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 New Valks are all good and fine, but none of that will mean a damned thing if the storyline sucks. When SDFM came out, it was 36 episodes and all we had were variants of the VF-1 and we got through that just fine. Why? Because the storyline was great. (To me at least)This is taking place, when, 2067? That's only 8 years after Frontier, so while I expect we'll see new Valks, I'm also expecting to see a lot of what came before, the VF-25's were just being put into service around the time of Frontier if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I think I'm on the same page as Jenius, seeing a revamped version of an earlier fighter as the cannon fodder unit would be fine, while seeing an all new hero mech would be also cool. Honestly there is one grip I have about most of the Frontier designs, and that is the excessive amount of kibble on the back, I get that they were CG models, and those have to ascribe to the laws of physics, but the increasing amount of stuff hanging off the back almost makes them feel like shellformers. The VF-25 and YF-30 aren't so bad, but the VF-27 and YF-29 are just excessive. I'd like to see the new Variable fighters go back to the roots, where battroid mode is designed to be a ground combat mode, and that means it has to be able to maneuver on the ground which those big wings sticking off the back would make it hard to do. I'd also like to see more of the giant sized Zentradi, both as allies and enemies. That particular couple of episodes really stuck with me from frontier, and it would give the Zentradi mechs more screen time, which means more promising toy fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 i would love if the YF-30 became the VF-30 cannon fodder valk and we get an all new hero valk...something completely different. all the frontier designs feel derivative not only n transformation but stylistically (not including the reused vf-17 to vf-171 update). i do agree that a good story is necessary. frontier kinda felt like SDFM light redux but not nearly as good. i want to see a slightly more grown up series sort of in the same vane as say....BSG with more serious themes etc. but also keep it feeling very macross. remember the tweens and teens that saw frontier are now late teens and early 20 somethings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'd love a vf30 cannon fodder as well... Or maybe have it start as the hero valk and be replaced mid season by something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Would love to see a revised YF/VF-21/22 for this series so that Bandai can do their thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 remember the tweens and teens that saw frontier are now late teens and early 20 somethings. oh. i know what that same audience in Japan is watching right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfDej_eKxLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I'd love a vf30 cannon fodder as well... Or maybe have it start as the hero valk and be replaced mid season by something new I think a CF 30 is a brilliant idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I think a CF 30 is a brilliant idea. Or maybe not as a CF valk, but definitely not the Hero mech. The YF-30 seems like it's more of a bomber or attacker than a fighter. It should have been the YA-30, instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I kinda feel like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I think a CF 30 is a brilliant idea. An excellent idea which I won't be surprised will be actually used to go along a whole new Valk introduced for the new series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Um... why is he eating a dead leaf? CF-30? If it has the fold quartz built in, that'd make it the most expensive CF yet. Consider the uprated engines, beam cannon, missile bank, fold quartz and so on. That would be a very large Emigration Fleet or wealthy planet to afford that. It wouldn't surprise me to see the CF Valkyrie be a tweaked 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Still holding out for a VF-191 or 19 variant! Caliburn anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Um... why is he eating a dead leaf?Because BOMBA! ... Or possibly he has a CRAZY tobacco addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Still holding out for a VF-191 or 19 variant! Caliburn anyone? Nah, Kawamori already said the 19 looked too heroic. Though it would be great if it made an appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stray Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 i do agree that a good story is necessary. frontier kinda felt like SDFM light redux but not nearly as good. i want to see a slightly more grown up series sort of in the same vane as say....BSG with more serious themes etc. but also keep it feeling very macross. remember the tweens and teens that saw frontier are now late teens and early 20 somethings. I... don't really see Macross going in that direction, at least not in a series. Maybe a gritty hip hop OVA? Now that I mentioned it I really kind of want one. On that note, for the series I'd really like to know if Yoko Kanno is doing the music again or if they're switching up the music genre to any extent. Its not Macross but as far as an example of a BSG-esque mecha series you may want to check out Knights of Sidonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I... don't really see Macross going in that direction, at least not in a series. Maybe a gritty hip hop OVA? Now that I mentioned it I really kind of want one. On that note, for the series I'd really like to know if Yoko Kanno is doing the music again or if they're switching up the music genre to any extent. Its not Macross but as far as an example of a BSG-esque mecha series you may want to check out Knights of Sidonia. ^^ Yes, this, all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I like gritty OVAs and lighter (but not too light) series. I also miss bad guys with personalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Let's get the same style hip hop action from Watanabe's Samurai Champloo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 OMG yes! That would be amazing! That or have the new singer/band be basically BabyMetal :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 So, yeah, I just looked up babymetal, and that is weird. I mean it's not bad, but it's odd. It sounds like you've got slayer or cannibal corpse going in the background, but with happy J-pop style vocals, it's just a strange juxtaposition of musical styles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 You know you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 You know you want it. You know, I wouldn't be unhappy with it. It'll take some getting used to, but hey, Ranka and Sheryl grew on me so... Still Babymetal is a bit more my speed in terms of music, so I'll have an easier time of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 You know, I wouldn't be unhappy with it. It'll take some getting used to, but hey, Ranka and Sheryl grew on me so... Still Babymetal is a bit more my speed in terms of music, so I'll have an easier time of it... I think it's great that Macross is helping you to expand your horizons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) Um... why is he eating a dead leaf? CF-30? If it has the fold quartz built in, that'd make it the most expensive CF yet. Consider the uprated engines, beam cannon, missile bank, fold quartz and so on. That would be a very large Emigration Fleet or wealthy planet to afford that. It wouldn't surprise me to see the CF Valkyrie be a tweaked 25. True but it could always be made into a cheaper variant without fold crystals.. something for close support rather than longer range missions. Still holding out for a VF-191 or 19 variant! Caliburn anyone? A great idea introducing evolutions of existing models but I doubt we'd ever see it with a 19.. Im surprised they chose the VF-17 to do this with.. the 171 is basically a stock gap till newer aircraft come along. Hornet to Super Hornet.. etc etc Edited August 1, 2015 by spanner76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyp Durron Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) From the Macross Mecha Manual : Designed from the YF-24 prototype, the Messiah was built as the potential successor to the VF-171 Nightmare Plus, the main variable fighter of the New UN Spacy still in active service as of 2059. So I don't think you're going to see a "191" variant of the 171, therefore it's likely that the VF-25 will be the New UN Spacy main variable fighter. Edited August 1, 2015 by Kyp Durron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Maybe the vf-252.. Can't wait to find out😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 oh. i know what that same audience in Japan is watching right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfDej_eKxLA That was adorable, I'd watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 That was adorable, I'd watch it. it has some gritty idol activities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Kv5WwrI.jpg it has some gritty idol activities Okay, that's kinda awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Okay, that's kinda awesome. https://tsuzukusekai.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/aikatsu-the-super-idol-anime/ Ichigo is into free climbing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerli Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) Kv5WwrI.jpg it has some gritty idol activities Wood Cutting: The Anime? I'd totally watch it Edited August 2, 2015 by Gerli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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