anubis20 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Mine just landed! I love how the TWE are shipped with plain shipper boxes to help protect the contents. Not quite, in Japan if you order just 1 unit they just slap a label on it and will ship it in that box alone and it will get dings, trust me ive gotten a few like that . We get lucky because NY orders multiples and then they are thrown in a biggger box. But i do agree for storage those brown boxes are great! If i dont get them i feel like the whole "web exclusive" package is incomplete Edited July 24, 2014 by anubis20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-Zer0S Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Just got mine in and man it's great armor set! It is heavy and I'm glad they added in the parts to make it more stabile. I'm keeping it on a stand though Edited July 24, 2014 by VF-Zer0S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saburo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Thanks Saburo! I love your pics BTW. c",) Here are a few pics in Fighter mode. Gerwalk and Battroid will need to wait since I gotta leave the house. Enjoy! Thank you, these are great shots! I'll have to live through everyone's photos till mine arrive. Got mine in as well today...in my rush I somehow managed to break the wing root, the small peg on the underside of the wing that fits into the leg portion of the Tornado/Super/Armor parts of my 25F that I bought just for the Tornado Packs. And then lost the damn piece before I could try and glue it back on. With regards to weight, from what I can tell there is no appreciable difference in weight from a 25 with Tornado vs. Armor Parts, with a slight nod going to the armor parts, probably from the sheer number of additional pieces. -b. Sorry to hear that Kaneda How did it break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Got mine in as well today...in my rush I somehow managed to break the wing root, the small peg on the underside of the wing that fits into the leg portion of the Tornado/Super/Armor parts of my 25F that I bought just for the Tornado Packs. And then lost the damn piece before I could try and glue it back on. With regards to weight, from what I can tell there is no appreciable difference in weight from a 25 with Tornado vs. Armor Parts, with a slight nod going to the armor parts, probably from the sheer number of additional pieces. -b. If the armor parts are heavier then that means the braces aren't necessarily a requirement. However, is that with the packs, or with all of the additional space fingers and giant suspended missile tubes attached as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 pretty clear that looks awesome in fighter mode but What's up? with the other modes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye_281 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Thing of beauty. Edited July 25, 2014 by Deadeye_281 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 pretty clear that looks awesome in fighter mode but What's up? with the other modes These were taken without the included brace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saburo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) ChaoticYeti, looks like its holds in place, did you notice any problems when posing it without the brace? Edited July 25, 2014 by Saburo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 ChaoticYeti, looks like its hold in place, did you notice any problems when posing it without the brace? Problems? Yes. It is very back heavy. I have it tilted as far back as I can so the nose doesn't touch without having it tip backwards. Here are some battroid pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Jeepers. That's a whole lotta armor. Any idea why the four thrusters' intake covers are so big? Do they fire missiles? Are they themselves missiles? And if not, why are they there anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Those thruster intake covers are there for space use. They contain propellent for the boosters to work outside an atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Jeepers. That's a whole lotta armor. Any idea why the four thrusters' intake covers are so big? Do they fire missiles? Are they themselves missiles? And if not, why are they there anyway? I have no idea. My take so far: Fighter mode is awesome and solid. Gerwalk looks awesome but is finicky. Battroid mode is... not for me. I do not wish to cause that much visible pain to an inanimate object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saburo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Problems? Yes. It is very back heavy. I have it tilted as far back as I can so the nose doesn't touch without having it tip backwards. Here are some battroid pics. Good to know, thanks for posting pics. Edited July 25, 2014 by Saburo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have no idea. My take so far: Fighter mode is awesome and solid. Gerwalk looks awesome but is finicky. Battroid mode is... not for me. I do not wish to cause that much visible pain to an inanimate object. Bummer, was planning to have Michaels in Battroid and Alto's in Gerwalk... what to do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Thank you, these are great shots! I'll have to live through everyone's photos till mine arrive. Sorry to hear that Kaneda How did it break? Thank you, luckily I had an extra 25 laying around that I'm now using. I guess I could sell the one that broke since it's practically brand new and never transformed. The breakage was ALL my fault, I was in a hurry and not paying attention and forced a separation of wing and leg (while all armor was attached) and broke that little tab clean off. If the armor parts are heavier then that means the braces aren't necessarily a requirement. However, is that with the packs, or with all of the additional space fingers and giant suspended missile tubes attached as well? I would say that the braces are needed in Battroid and Gerwalk based on the sheer size of the Tornado parts, they aren't "heavy" per say but they're large enough that they'd stress joints just from the amount of extra added mass (if that makes sense). I have no idea. My take so far: Fighter mode is awesome and solid. Gerwalk looks awesome but is finicky. Battroid mode is... not for me. I do not wish to cause that much visible pain to an inanimate object. Agree with the assessment of Fighter mode and I can reasonably assume/agree with that of Gerwalk and Battroid (mine shall remain in Fighter with Tornado Parts). -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Agree with the assessment of Fighter mode and I can reasonably assume/agree with that of Gerwalk and Battroid (mine shall remain in Fighter with Tornado Parts). -b. My only gripe with fighter mode, now that I have gone back and forth, is that the gunpod adapter has a weak connection. It will fall off without much provocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matic Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Back profile looks crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 My only gripe with fighter mode, now that I have gone back and forth, is that the gunpod adapter has a weak connection. It will fall off without much provocation. TRUTH And that was the reason/root cause of how I broke mine, I'd forgotten to extend that gunpod connector and had to move the legs out of the way to get to the arms to move them out of the way to get to the extension that allows you to attach the gunpod with armor parts on. UGH -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 TRUTH And that was the reason/root cause of how I broke mine, I'd forgotten to extend that gunpod connector and had to move the legs out of the way to get to the arms to move them out of the way to get to the extension that allows you to attach the gunpod with armor parts on. UGH -b. To that point, I can see how you broke that peg on the wing. One of my wings plugs very tightly into the leg armor. I had read you broke yours, so I took my time and came away without a broken peg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoexcaliber Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Ok NY just shipped one part of my order. Too bad it's gonna take till Wednesday to get it even via Fedex thanks to 2 public holidays next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 The sheer size of these things kinda bugs me, I admit. It's not a matter of the parts weighing more or less than the armor, it's the fact that these concentrate a significant portion of the weight a bit farther out than the armor reaches. If they weigh the same as the armor, depending on where the CoG is, they might be putting more strain on the wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 To that point, I can see how you broke that peg on the wing. One of my wings plugs very tightly into the leg armor. I had read you broke yours, so I took my time and came away without a broken peg. Cool, glad that were able to avoid the same issue. Really should have been taking my time, but oh well... The sheer size of these things kinda bugs me, I admit. It's not a matter of the parts weighing more or less than the armor, it's the fact that these concentrate a significant portion of the weight a bit farther out than the armor reaches. If they weigh the same as the armor, depending on where the CoG is, they might be putting more strain on the wings. Strain on the wings in Fighter, yes, BUT that strain is mitigated a bit because of how the wing sits against the leg (at the part where they'd fold up/down or back for transformation into Battroid, or where you'd fold them up to attach the leg armor in Fighter), it helps lessen or reduce the amount of stress placed on the wing itself because it's braced or held up by the leg/leg armor. I think it'll be OK in Fighter, but I'd use a brace in any other mode for sure. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mog_kupo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Finally got my shipping notification from NY 3 long weeks ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
close313 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 In other words, the wider wing causes a larger moment arm from the hinge so the stress caused by the wing parts are much bigger, i believe. Especially if the centre of gravity is much further from the wing hinge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2k6 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Finally NY sent my shipping notification, SAL registered, if anyone want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Like I said, the ultimate blame goes to Kawamori for designing something that doesn't work with physics. However, I do have a question. Was this strain a problem on the V1's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I actually want to say that I don't think so, since despite the horribly inaccurate leg pack transformation, I think the bulkier design of the 1.0 might have been sturdier overall (if you don't count the tendencies the armor packs had to crack the entire backplate). Problem really is, the attachment points on the v.2 wing roots aren't all that sturdy to begin with. The small pegs they latch on with let the armor flop around a little more than I'd prefer. For what it's worth, these look like they might be much sturdier, since they envelop so much of the wing root. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I actually want to say that I don't think so, since despite the horribly inaccurate leg pack transformation, I think the bulkier design of the 1.0 might have been sturdier overall (if you don't count the tendencies the armor packs had to crack the entire backplate). Problem really is, the attachment points on the v.2 wing roots aren't all that sturdy to begin with. The small pegs they latch on with let the armor flop around a little more than I'd prefer. For what it's worth, these look like they might be much sturdier, since they envelop so much of the wing root. It's been so long since I've handled a v1 25F with Tornado Parts but from faint memory I'd venture to say that the v1 felt sturdier. That's not to say that these feel flimsy, but a chunky monkey tank they're not. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH355hamdi Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hopefully mine arrive today. I will display it without the missile pod and the wing thruster covers. The SD one I have does not have those on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH355hamdi Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 And it has arrive folks. the installation should be easy but made slightly difficult due to the size of the parts. Weight is more or less like the armour parts. I have no plan to transform it again due to the bigger parts. Installation is done in GERWALK mode so I can transform it back fighter easily. Again the fighter mode should be fine in long period due to the added support pegs from the wing part to the leg armour. The gun bracket is a bit short and the gun can easily fall off. Due to the gap between the arms in fighter mode, I just pegged in the bracket to just one hand. The parts. The additional brackets are put in a plastic bag and tapped behind. The before and after installation of the VTOL part. The wing peg for support and fitting. The too short gun pod bracket. Tornado and YF29 comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Looking nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH355hamdi Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Thank you Scream Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 And it has arrive folks. the installation should be easy but made slightly difficult due to the size of the parts. Weight is more or less like the armour parts. I have no plan to transform it again due to the bigger parts. Installation is done in GERWALK mode so I can transform it back fighter easily. Again the fighter mode should be fine in long period due to the added support pegs from the wing part to the leg armour. The gun bracket is a bit short and the gun can easily fall off. Due to the gap between the arms in fighter mode, I just pegged in the bracket to just one hand. The parts. The additional brackets are put in a plastic bag and tapped behind. I was going to do mine without the additional missile thing and engine attachments. Does that reduce the weight by any significant amount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I was going to do mine without the additional missile thing and engine attachments. Does that reduce the weight by any significant amount? The optional missile pods do add a noticeable amount of weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 *snip*The wing peg for support and fitting. *snip* Nice pictures and summary, I hope you don't mind me highlighting this picture, as that white peg is shown above that plugs into the leg armor is exactly what I managed to break on my Alto. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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