Urashiman Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 Was a busy building day today. the VF-22 is nearing the finish line. the vf-19 got the main color, the f-14 got some masking and details. and a little horror story about me destroying my plamax vf-1… this morning I looked at the minmay decal on the vf-1 and was unhappy with it. I decided it would be best to take it off, and print my own with better quality. Sounds easy but… it was not. printed decal versus the low quality chinese one. And guess what? It didn’t wanna come off, so I had to scratch the decal off…. I hat to paint it again. rescribing… No decal on it yet, but soon. Needs to cure first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Urashiman said: Was a busy building day today. the VF-22 is nearing the finish line. the vf-19 got the main color, the f-14 got some masking and details. and a little horror story about me destroying my plamax vf-1… this morning I looked at the minmay decal on the vf-1 and was unhappy with it. I decided it would be best to take it off, and print my own with better quality. Sounds easy but… it was not. printed decal versus the low quality chinese one. And guess what? It didn’t wanna come off, so I had to scratch the decal off…. I hat to paint it again. rescribing… No decal on it yet, but soon. Needs to cure first. You've really gone the extra mile! Great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Urashiman said: Was a busy building day today. the VF-22 is nearing the finish line. the vf-19 got the main color, the f-14 got some masking and details. and a little horror story about me destroying my plamax vf-1… this morning I looked at the minmay decal on the vf-1 and was unhappy with it. I decided it would be best to take it off, and print my own with better quality. Sounds easy but… it was not. printed decal versus the low quality chinese one. And guess what? It didn’t wanna come off, so I had to scratch the decal off…. I hat to paint it again. rescribing… No decal on it yet, but soon. Needs to cure first. Hey, been there, done that. I've had to remove bad decals; usually my first trick is to use 3M masking tape to pull the decal up (even with clearcoat), but sometimes they can be stubborn little cruds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbit Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Hi All, This is what I'm up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbit Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 5:22 AM, Urashiman said: Was a busy building day today. @Urashiman Lots of cool Macross builds there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, arbit said: Hi All, This is what I'm up to. Noice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 hours ago, arbit said: Hi All, This is what I'm up to. Looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 $%#@&!!!!!! Never going to panelline and wash anything anymore ... The wash went super bad on my Plamax VF-1. I am really unhappy, and I am at the point where I am just like "Argh ... **** it, just **** is, I am not going into contests with this." And I think I forgot to paint something... 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Urashiman said: $%#@&!!!!!! Never going to panelline and wash anything anymore ... The wash went super bad on my Plamax VF-1. I am really unhappy, and I am at the point where I am just like "Argh ... **** it, just **** is, I am not going into contests with this." And I think I forgot to paint something... 😒 If I may make a recommendation: find a white paint marker with a very fine tip (perhaps a Gundam Paint Marker) and use that to refine the edges where the wash didn't exactly behave for you. I've had to do this on a number of models that went "sideways" and it works fine. Then just use a very light overspray of the base color to kill down whatever sharp edges may pop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Urashiman said: $%#@&!!!!!! Never going to panelline and wash anything anymore ... The wash went super bad on my Plamax VF-1. I am really unhappy, and I am at the point where I am just like "Argh ... **** it, just **** is, I am not going into contests with this." And I think I forgot to paint something... 😒 What process did you use to do the wash? If you used a clear coat, you may be able to just do a light sand with a high grit sand paper if thinners don’t work. Just curious about the products and process you used and maybe there’s a simple solution to the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) @pengbuzz & @Big s, thanks a lot for the troubleshooting. I usually use gloss color or a gloss coat so panel lines and washes go great. From time to time, color is less glossy in some areas, the surface a bit more rought, causing the stuff to look super dirty. To fix that, In usually spray over it, so the model is recovered. ps: my f-14 coming along well. Edited May 29, 2023 by Urashiman Typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 @Urashiman Sorry to hear about the wash-debacle. Hopefully it is recoverable without too much headache. On the other hand, the Tomcat is looking great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Q Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 @Urashiman Great work on the cat! To bad about the panel lining. Murphy's Law often strikes the scale modeler but we keep on truckin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Urashiman said: @pengbuzz & @Big s, thanks a lot for the troubleshooting. I usually use gloss color or a gloss coat so panel lines and washes go great. From time to time, color is less glossy in some areas, the surface a bit more rought, causing the stuff to look super dirty. To fix that, In usually sprif over it, so the model is recoversed. ps: my f-14 coming along well. Hope you can get things fixed up and don’t give up. Sometimes it’s good to make sure you have a decent gloss before panel lining and sometimes the panel lining products can be where the problems are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 @Urashiman Did the wash eat into the paint? I think I've heard of that happening with some washes. For an alternative, have you used or tried clay-based washes like Flory or ProModeller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 45 minutes ago, Thom said: @Urashiman Did the wash eat into the paint? I think I've heard of that happening with some washes. For an alternative, have you used or tried clay-based washes like Flory or ProModeller? I was kinda curious about this as well. I’ve only had that problem with tamiya panel liners. I wasn’t sure if it could also have been an acrylic wash. I’ve always had bad luck with those as well, like if the was dries to quick leaving smudges that don’t wanna wipe away. Personally I haven’t had big problems with oil washes and been curious about the clay washes. I’ve never seen flory or found it in stock at web stores. Just something I’m thinking about trying since they clean up with water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahiachris Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) Been working on the Rabbit. Already did a lot of modification but still a long way to go. Edited May 28, 2023 by ahiachris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 59 minutes ago, ahiachris said: Been working on the Rabbit. Already did a lot of modification but still a long way to go. That's looking good. mine was so warped everywhere , i've had to dip almost every part in hot water. And even though there's a little gap between your upper and lower passenger compartment, they come together and align pretty good. Mine needs a ton of work on that seem. With the wall thickness inconsistencies and misalignments, this is a time consuming project, so i really appreciate what you've done with yours. Keep it up On 5/27/2023 at 6:37 AM, Urashiman said: $%#@&!!!!!! Never going to panelline and wash anything anymore ... The wash went super bad on my Plamax VF-1. I am really unhappy, and I am at the point where I am just like "Argh ... **** it, just **** is, I am not going into contests with this." And I think I forgot to paint something... 😒 @Urashiman I'm sure you'll correct this, you've got the skills ! I'm cheering for ya. And that F-14 proves it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 5/28/2023 at 2:12 PM, Thom said: @Urashiman Did the wash eat into the paint? I think I've heard of that happening with some washes. For an alternative, have you used or tried clay-based washes like Flory or ProModeller? Well, it just straight went into the fine structures of the uneven paintjob. It wouldn't be that bad if the color would have been more glossy. Technically, I have to rub the color off, and then spray it again to fix the issue here. @Big s Yeah, it is the tamiya panel line stuff. It is too thin. I will go back to oil color washes now. It smells more due to the turpentine, but works much better. I am p****d because the panel liner from tamiya worked great on my gundam and the 3D prints, even with mate colors. hurghghghghglgl! @ahiachris Nice rabbit! Is it a scratch build or 3d printed? @Bolt Yeah ... I kinda got back some motivation as the F-14 turned out that well. The VF-19 and the VF-22 looks nice so far as well. Sometimes the setback is just annoying as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 52 minutes ago, Urashiman said: @Big s Yeah, it is the tamiya panel line stuff. It is too thin. I will go back to oil color washes now. It smells more due to the turpentine, but works much better. I am p****d because the panel liner from tamiya worked great on my gundam and the 3D prints, even with mate colors. hurghghghghglgl! I’ve had a few odd problems with that tamiya stuff. If you do oils and the smell of turpentine gets to you, there’s always odorless mineral spirits. They still have a bit of a smell, but not as bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechTech Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 @Urashiman Your X-29 looks great! I'm glad to see an old model get some new love.😁 Your VF-1 looks great! Your decal work looks well worth it despite the other problems you've had. The gold paint looks cool too. The Tomcat is coming along great too!. Your extra effort on them all DEFINITELY shows. - MT @arbit Your MinMei sculpt looks accurate and cool! She just needs an embarrassed Hikaru figure.🤣 @ahiachris Your Rabbit model and mods are coming along great! It's cool to see such a rare subject being built. - MT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) Well I needed another break from starships and submarines today and I'm fighting off a sinus infection from working outside most of last week, soooo... What's this??? 🤔 A MACROSS model kit on my desk for the 1st time in about a million years?! 🤣 Now I've NEVER built a Hasegawa kit before... ever....so here we go. 1st impressions, WOW... I know this a new 2023 mold but damn, the plastic just feeeeels hella good and high quality. Much to my surprise...ALL of the parts that matter are UNDERGATED! Which to me means only one thing... You can paint 99% of this thing on the sprues!! NIIICE! I just put the two halves of the radar array together and I must say I'm impressed. Is it Bandai Star Wars kits level perfect fit???....no....but it's damn close and praise doesn't come any higher than that. Anyone with a good pair of nippers a tiny bit of sanding stick and a little cement could build this very easily. One wouldn't even have to paint it really if you were a beginner. Now I'm looking forward to building my new Regults eventually! Bravo Hasegawa! Edited May 29, 2023 by derex3592 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Urashiman said: Well, it just straight went into the fine structures of the uneven paintjob. It wouldn't be that bad if the color would have been more glossy. Technically, I have to rub the color off, and then spray it again to fix the issue here. You know, I've been thinking about your problem here. Could you try perhaps using some #0000 grade steel wool to remove the crud from the wash without ruining the rest of the paint job. At the very least, you'd have an even surface in case you need to repaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechTech Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I don't know if this deserves a separate thread, but I pulled the 1/350th Tunny out of storage to complete it. I tried to get it ready for our Club's "Macross Mania" night, but epically failed. Too many things broke on it and the great citrus based glue I used also oxidized the metal parts. So here's it getting refurbished like my Monster build. Kit highlights: When the horizontal stabilizer is tilted down, the flaps go down via a linkage in the tail. The engines are on magnets and can be rotated around via a ball bearing. The rear ramps open and close. I got more work done on the nose this weekend. The interior and cargo bay insert. New horizontal stabilizers were made. The old ones crack and the linkage cable was oxidized. Flaps up. Flaps down. Here's the linkage to the flaps. Flaps up. Flaps down. Still A LOT more to go one this one. - MT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, derex3592 said: Well I needed another break from starships and submarines today and I'm fighting off a sinus infection from working outside most of last week, soooo... What's this??? 🤔 A MACROSS model kit on my desk for the 1st time in about a million years?! 🤣 Now I've NEVER built a Hasegawa kit before... ever....so here we go. 1st impressions, WOW... I know this a new 2023 mold but damn, the plastic just feeeeels hella good and high quality. Much to my surprise...ALL of the parts that matter are UNDERGATED! Which to me means only one thing... You can paint 99% of this thing on the sprues!! NIIICE! I just put the two halves of the radar array together and I must say I'm impressed. Is it Bandai Star Wars kits level perfect fit???....no....but it's damn close and praise doesn't come any higher than that. Anyone with a good pair of nippers a tiny bit of sanding stick and a little cement could build this very easily. One wouldn't even have to paint it really if you were a beginner. Now I'm looking forward to building my new Regults eventually! Bravo Hasegawa! Looking forward to seeing you build this buddy 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, MechTech said: I don't know if this deserves a separate thread, but I pulled the 1/350th Tunny out of storage to complete it. I tried to get it ready for our Club's "Macross Mania" night, but epically failed. Too many things broke on it and the great citrus based glue I used also oxidized the metal parts. So here's it getting refurbished like my Monster build. Kit highlights: When the horizontal stabilizer is tilted down, the flaps go down via a linkage in the tail. The engines are on magnets and can be rotated around via a ball bearing. The rear ramps open and close. I got more work done on the nose this weekend. The interior and cargo bay insert. New horizontal stabilizers were made. The old ones crack and the linkage cable was oxidized. Flaps up. Flaps down. Here's the linkage to the flaps. Flaps up. Flaps down. Still A LOT more to go one this one. - MT Looking good MT ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 @MechTech What is it? Looks cool regardless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 5 hours ago, pengbuzz said: You know, I've been thinking about your problem here. Could you try perhaps using some #0000 grade steel wool to remove the crud from the wash without ruining the rest of the paint job. At the very least, you'd have an even surface in case you need to repaint. I‘ll go with a careful rub on this one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahiachris Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Urashiman said: Well, it just straight went into the fine structures of the uneven paintjob. It wouldn't be that bad if the color would have been more glossy. Technically, I have to rub the color off, and then spray it again to fix the issue here. @Big s Yeah, it is the tamiya panel line stuff. It is too thin. I will go back to oil color washes now. It smells more due to the turpentine, but works much better. I am p****d because the panel liner from tamiya worked great on my gundam and the 3D prints, even with mate colors. hurghghghghglgl! @ahiachris Nice rabbit! Is it a scratch build or 3d printed? @Bolt Yeah ... I kinda got back some motivation as the F-14 turned out that well. The VF-19 and the VF-22 looks nice so far as well. Sometimes the setback is just annoying as hell. Urashiman the kit is a 1/72 release by Plastic Cretins Bolt, the fuselage of my kit was warped as yours, I layered plastic plate and made it curved instead of flat and I also remake some parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) On 5/19/2023 at 8:22 PM, Urashiman said: You sir, are giving me dangerous thoughts. With all the Ver Ka Zeta, I decided to revist an old friend built nearly 20 years ago, that became a project 10 years ago, to see daylight 2 days ago. Lol Edited May 30, 2023 by Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Rock said: You sir, are giving me dangerous thoughts. With all the Ver Ka Zeta, I decided to revist an old friend built nearly 20 years ago, that became a project 10 years ago, to see daylight 2 days ago. Lol Ever heard of that "bad influence" your parents were talking about? That is me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 21 hours ago, ahiachris said: Urashiman the kit is a 1/72 release by Plastic Cretins Bolt, the fuselage of my kit was warped as yours, I layered plastic plate and made it curved instead of flat and I also remake some parts. Ya, yours looks re worked more than mine! good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Stuck in stencil hell for good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 @electric indigo You'll be a Stencil Wizard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/2/2023 at 3:59 AM, electric indigo said: Stuck in stencil hell for good... It's already looking super cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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