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  2. SebastianP
    I would pull the "animation error" card on the "Maizuru" model instead of the "Maiduru" model, yeah. We never see it very often (I can only remember the scene from Frontier 1, and Itsuwari no Utahime), whereas the Maiduru model shows up all the time. But here's the thing. The one thing I actually care about really is "make the Gefion work as a carrier without changing its model". It is a very very nice model, it is just too small. But it doesn't need to be *four times* the size to work - the hangar pods are wide and tall enough to work at just *twice* the size, if I throw out the "battroid walks in the back door" screenshot as an animation error. There's enough clearance - barely - to move fighters from the pods into the hull; and the hull would have enough volume to hold around 40 fighters. And now that we have a modern carrier version of the Northampton, we toss out the Stargazer animation, and declare "Stargazer was a Gefion-type all along". The script, aside from the VFX callouts, will work. From there, let's look at what scaling each ship up by the same factor does for us: Starting with the Maiduru model, the largest hangar access ports will now be large enough to squeeze a VF through, and the small ones are big enough for a Ghost. We're tossing the Maizuru model as an animation error, it is not plot relevant that the Guantanamo-class is a specific size beyond it being able to launch fighters. The Stealth Cruiser does not have a stated size in the first place our estimates are based on the size of the Northamptons it shares the scene with anyway. Scaling it up to twice the size just means it's 2 x unknown. The Quarter, I've complained about for years and years is too small to do what we see it doing in the show. The ARMD-L is too thin for a hangar, the elevators on the model are too small for the fighters, and at one point we see it flying in formation with *dozens* of SMS VF-25As who which had to come from somewhere, and there is no room inside that ship for them. Scaling it up to twice the size - solves nearly everything I would not bet 100% on the hangar capacity, but it's a lot less implausible at least. The Elysion, as mentioned a few times already, looks like it was modeled by a VFX artist at one size, and then some time after episode 2 aired, someone outside the VFX department declared it was the height of Burj Kalifa and then the model was resized without any further work being done, resulting in a bunch of weirdness. Like the VF-31 not being able to fit through the hangar access ports between the main flight deck and the upper flight deck. Scaling it up to twice its "canon" size would basically restore it to where it was originally, and allow VFs to use the facilities, as it were. The Uraga... doesn't need a resize, that one was well thought through at its canon size, and it's almost a shame to change it. If I can't write off the size discrepancy as an animation error, well at least it now has an easier time handling large battroids like Queadluun-Rau/Rhea, or the VB-6 König Monster. The New Macross Class... also doesn't need a resize, other than for matching the animation. But at least scaling them up will also scale the cities up, and give four times more area and eight times the volume to play around with. And if we play a little with the "new design iterations supersede old versions of the same design", then City 7 is now Island-One sized, but double the canon, which means that scenes like Basara living in a slum miles from the city are more plausible, because there are actual miles to drive! If we want to go even further and bring up ships which never share a scene with any of the above? DYRL Macross would benefit greatly from being twice the size because there'd be room for a cityscape inside the ship, and I think I measured at one point that the ARMDs at their canon size would have trouble with the launch scene from the opening sequence because the ports are too small. I'll have to revisit that sometime. I don't remember if the DYRL Macross ever punched anything in the face that would need to be rescaled, but I'm willing to call "animation error" to avoid this becoming a problem. Megaroad-01 at double the size might actually have room for that racetrack from the M3 intro. TV Macross would not work, though, because Daedalus and Prometheus are already ridiculously large for surface ships. But TV Macross is technically not canon anyway because it was superseded by the DYRL version. Macross The First Macross would not work either, for the same reason as above.
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  5. GKT
    Is there a way to order this from the US?
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  8. PsYcHoDyNaMiX
    I was lucky enough to land a PO with hlj as well. I'm in the same boat... don't ask me about my backl,... wait what? LOL...
  9. sh9000
    The Chosen Prime only charges tax for people in Arizona. Free shipping after $200.
  10. Seto Kaiba
    Actually, the full context included the Gefion from Macross 30 if you go back the bit I quoted... The Gefion is home to far, far fewer VFs than the animation error Stargazer from Macross 7. Around ten when all is said and done, based on the game and novel, which I'm sure you'll agree is a vastly more plausible figure for a ship of its official size that has undergone extensive modification to serve as a light aircraft carrier. Nothing about the Gefion's official complement of VFs requires it to be vastly larger than 250m. (She is not, in story terms, actually carrying the huge array of unlockable VFs the game offers.) That's not necessarily applicable to all of the examples I went for... several are listed purely with the hangar capacity. Of course, the Northampton-class can (and per the Macross 30 novelization, does) cheat a bit by using multiple decks worth of converted cargo bays for VF storage. It may not be one contiguous hangar deck, but its available space is not limited purely by the ship's length in a single run. We all agree that Macross 7's showrunners dropped the ball with Ep44 and the Stargazer. I don't think there's anything wrong with the Gefion's design, though. There's physically enough room to fit the Gefion's much smaller required number of VFs inside the ship without issue, and there are gates large enough to get them onto the catapult deck (though some may need to do so with their wings folded). Likewise, I don't think there's any particular issue with the Northampton-class's launch mechanism from Macross 7 PLUS either... the main sticking point is the exact physical location of the ramp, but there's a fair amount of real estate down there. It's an animation error... what more can we say? They dun goofed. I disagree with that conclusion, though. Even if we didn't say that the fact that those handful of scenes in Macross 7's 44th episode being clearly off-model weren't enough to toss it as evidence, the preponderance of evidence WRT the Northampton's size skews very heavily towards the official number. After all, this is a ship that appears in many dozens of shots throughout multiple series. Now, I'm sure you will not disagree that in those many dozens of fleet shots the Northampton-class is clearly drawn a good deal smaller than the Guantanamo-class. You've also said previously that the detail shots of the Guantanamo-class closely match the ship's official size of approximately 352m, even if the smaller CG model used for distance shots is not quite accurate in terms of surface detail. If we take your conclusion as accurate and enlarge the Northampton-class to three to four times its official size as you argue, then we either have to posit that LITERALLY EVERY fleet shot in multiple Macross titles is completely and utterly incorrect or we have to scale the other ships seen with the Northampton-class up by the same factor to match. We immediately start to run into problems there. The Guantanamo-class, for instance, is seen in close formation with Northampton-class frigates many times. If we scale that up to match, then we either have to treat the oft-reused launch scenes in Macross 7 and Macross Frontier as animation errors as well... or we have to scale up the Valkyries that they're shown launching by the same amount. If the VF-11 and VF-171 are also three times to four times larger than their official sizes to make the animation correct again, that means we've changed everything's sizes but fixed nothing because we're right back where we started with VFs too bit to fit into or out of the ship in Macross 7 Ep44. And that's not counting all the knock-on implications of arbitrarily enlarging those designs 3-4x. Like, for instance, the pilots having to also be enlarged by the same amount so scenes showing pilots getting into or out of their VFs work, or Alto's complaints about Island-1 no longer making sense because a 4x enlarged Island-1 would have a "ceiling" of 8,000m not 2,000m, meaning instead of kvetching about the sky being "too low" he'd be struggling to breathe or passing out (hypoxia starts setting in at about 5-6km, and the "death zone" is around 8). My preference, of course, is for the simplest answer that requires the fewest assumptions. That being, Macross 7 Ep44's Stargazer is just an animation error and the ship really is meant to be just 250m.
  11. Valkyrie Hunter D
    To help you forget how much you spent on a Metal Structure Sazabi:
  12. Negotiator
    does chosen prime charge tax? is free shipping after $200?
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  15. PsYcHoDyNaMiX
    On my lunch break... just an update. I know I usually post Sunday evening/night, but I was busy with things and wanted to work on the project some more. The bay doors printed vertically came out great! The horizontal prints suffered from some pooling on the inside along the outer edge next to the standoffs (I'll probably have to spin the parts 180 degrees to prevent this). On the vertical, the only issue I encountered was the standoffs were 0.25-0.5mm too long/wide in the z-axis (printer direction, not model), everything else about the part was spot on, odd. I ended up having to do some shaving/trimming/sanding to get the parts to fit. So I'll just have to make adjustments to the model and reprint in the same orientation and angles to test. I do prefer the matte finish on the horizontal print more and the vertical print seemed come out glossy (?) when placed side by side. I actually had pics of the horizontal print (ver) mounted with the YF-21 FP covers, but I guess no point in showing those now, so the mounted pics are of the vertical ones... lol. I printed a set of canopies with the supports on the outside/updside down. This made post processing much easier (sanding/polishing, etc.), but not easier for the heat-shield versions, so those will probably be printed with supports on the underside to save the detailing. I spent a good part of the weekend sanding, polishing and dipped the canopy window parts in Future. I'm giving them a good 24-48 hrs to dry before handling, sorry no pics yet. I modeled up the markings for the head, the "KEEP CLEAN" imho I felt the best position it could be in (I tried a few different angles/positions), and three different positions for the "SENSOR INSIDE" marking (A,B, or C). Let me know if one looks better than the other. I already printed up all three to see and yes I know you can barely see it. The original markings were painted in white on the blue faceplate whereas this is grey, I'll try to determine what color inks/paints or Sharpe marker I can go over them with just as I did with the Antenna (pictured). I was thinking Blue, Red or maybe even Yellow. I don't think the white would show up too well against the grey. Also... I modeled up a mono-eye... this is kind of where I need to stop myself before I end up doing too much. I remembered I had a bunch of SMDs laying around and went digging. 603 SMDs fit in the Mono-eye section. I needed to order some ultra thin solder. I'm just not sure atm where to place the batteries (prob cell type), 😵lol:
  16. pengbuzz
    Thanks; gotta love masking tape! I also used it for replicating the thermal blankets elsewhere on the shuttle.
  17. SebastianP
    Thanks! And I can agree that it's likely that the artists involved never double-checked with each other and this is why we ended up like this. I'm coming at this from both the Star Wars fandom, where "see that speck over there? It's a thing, with stats, and we have to figure them out" has been a thing since the 80s and where if the book doesn't match what's seen on screen we make a stink and sometimes get it changed; and the model building scene, where models in the same scale have to fit, and if they don't they're not the same scale and need correcting. In this case, the models did not fit at what was supposed to be the same scale, so obviously the scale on one of them was wrong. And.... it wasn't going to be the Variable Fighters. As mentioned, I think it's a little beyond "an" animation error, where every scene in the whole episode involving fighters relative to the ship show the ship to be much, much bigger than the book said it was. It was basicially the whole episode that was the animation error. And when this was the "hero" episode for that ship, the one episode which *focused* on the ship in question? I find it easier to throw the book out than the episode, as mentioned. And yeah, the point of showing the ships side by side was to show that only about a third of the total length of the Northampton at this scale is suitable for a hangar, as opposed to two thirds to three quarters of the carriers Seto Kaiba mentioned; and the real carrier has some *serious holes* in the side for the aircraft to leave the hangar through, which would need to go somewhere. I can make a "baby carrier" 250 meter Northampton. It would look like it came out of Star Wars, because of the side mounted hangar bays, and it would have to drop the forward torpedo tubes, but I can make it. But it would not be the Stargazer. And it wouldn't be the Gefion. Both of which are shown launching fighters in a way that make them much bigger than 250 meters... The full context was "it can't function as a carrier for the nearly 40 fighters launched out of the Stargazer", because there's not enough cubic volume in it suitable for a hangar of sufficient size. Even the FANKY version only managed 29 fighters total, and that was with the huge belly hangar/flight deck, which is not what we see in either Macross 7 or Macross 30. I repeat - even the FANKY version could not launch the 36 + 1 fighters called for in the episode script. Also, the problem with your examples of real world carriers is that 1 - all of them have two thirds to three quarters of their full length, and their full hull width, devoted to hangar floor space, in a triple-height deck; and 2 - basically every carrier's listed capacity has half the aircraft up on deck, because they won't fit in the hangar. A Nimitz-class only has room for 34 jets and six helicopters below deck. It has a hangar that is nearly as big as the whole Northampton by footprint area, being a 206 x 33 meter almost-rectangle, and it still only fits that number of jets. On the Northampton, only the center third of it is even thick enough and wide enough for a hangar, because the ship tapers sharply both towards the ends and from the centerline. There isn't really room for more than one level of hangars either, because of the taper. And as I said above, I can probably make a 250 meter Northampton into a carrier that can take some VFs without altering the profile, but it won't look like either the Gefion or the Stargazer, it most certainly would not be capable of launching a 36 fighter alpha strike as shown in Macross 7. And even with all that... I could not fit the official bridge design inside the conning tower, because it's at least two person-heights wide and the bridge window on the model (which is accurate proportionally to the old line art) is only 2.3 meters. Enough people involved in the production of Macross 7 and Macross 30 ignored the 250 meter length for their hero unit spaceship, to make that 250 meter figure irrelevant.
  18. sh9000
  19. sh9000
    Surf's Up Chucky.
  20. sh9000
    Preordered Skydive and Fireflight at Hasbro Pulse. Target has been getting some items earlier than other stores so if I see those 2 at Target and with a cheaper price or one of their offers then I'll end up buying them there instead.
  21. Seto Kaiba
    It didn't consider only length... but the point there was to illustrate how silly the idea that the Northampton-class can't function as a carrier being "only" 250m is. There are several modern light or escort carriers that are very close in size to the Northampton-class, even if we're only considering the columnar center of the ship's design that's about 250m x 30m. It's never going to be as capacious as a ship that's essentially just a gigantic box built for nothing but holding aircraft... but there's nothing conceptually wrong with the Gefion at its 252.5m size as a light carrier holding a platoon or two.
  22. Papa Rat
    @MechTech I tried searching for any modeling clubs/groups in my area “Portland,OR USA” and can’t find anything. When I stumbled upon this convention I figured it might be a way to connect with other nerds like myself. lol
  23. Black Valkyrie
  24. MechTech
    @pengbuzz Your Shuttle looks GREAT! I love the protective coating on the lab module. It looks realistic! @Papa Rat No problem! Winning something at a con is cool too! Maybe fewer entrants? - MT
  25. Roy Focker
    Fan Works means by actual human fans.
  26. Papa Rat
    Wow. That looks better than I had expected. I’ll have to order one. 👍
  27. Papa Rat
    @SteveTheFish good idea on using Lego joints. Also thanks for the compliment. Same goes to you. I have test to try any resin kits and think I may take the plunge his year. @MechTech really appreciate all the tips and things to consider. This will be at a anime convention in OCT. It appears that dressing up cosplay and performing is the main focus and models being secondary so there is that. Details are still not cemented as I reached out for more info. Stay tuned I guess. I’m excited to try some new things. @pengbuzzLooking good!
  28. mikeszekely
    Not tomorrow. I'm honestly not sure if Hasbro is planning another stream for later this month or just waiting for SDCC at this point, especially since I was told today's stream was for AotP and Studio Series, but by "Studio Series" they apparently meant one solitary Amazon multipack. That said, some people are saying a clue on Entertainment Earth that reads "Classic! Or new? Maybe both. Sign up lest you get caught without cool action figures in the cold vacuum of space... or your home. Your home needs new action figures." suggests that Megatron will go up for preorder on Monday. EDIT: Well, I preordered everything on Amazon except the Dinobots, which I preordered on Pulse. Usually I preorder everything on Pulse, too, but looking back over my last couple of orders I've canceled almost everything there because I get it somewhere else first.
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