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The Unlicensed Third Party Transformers Thread
JB0 replied to slaginpit's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
That becomes overt trademark infringement as opposed to the gray area of reverse-engineered molds. Hasbro doesn't own red trucks that become robots, they don't even own a specific implementation of that concept. Physical objects are not typically afforded copyright protection. But the logos are protected by trademark and easily identified by customs as unauthorized and thus illegal uses of that trademark. If you want your toy robots to make it into the country, you won't print autobrands on them. - Today
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Yamato obviously had other priorities but the fighter mode is much too thick. Especially when you look at it from the side and below.
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I wish, but the 17 has always been a more niche design among the Valkyries, being a grunt and all. Not even Arcadia wants to reissue the Yamato version.
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I might get one, but it's staying permanently in fighter mode. That battroid is fugly. Just like with the upcoming VF-19, this ain't replacing my Yamatos.
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I hope Bandai get enough complaints about this that they consider changes. Honestly, I can't believe they are being this lazy.
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It's shocking how much better proprtioned the Yamato looks, especially in Battroid and Gerwalk modes. I was originally thinking to order 2pcs of the Bandai DX VF-17S, but now I think I'll just get1pc and keep it in fighter mode. Unless Bandai significantly reworks the sculpt between now and release.
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I just recently transformed my Bandai DX Chogokin YF-21 to Battroid mode for the first time, and as a figher guy almost exclusively, I rather like the battroid mode of the YF-21 and actually have the toy displayed in battroid. The transformation was not too horrible, I actually was expecting close to SV-262 level of anxiety, but it was pretty easy, especially watching Jenius' Scorched Earth Toys video on Youtube. Twich
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All Things Videogame Related: EXTREME VS!!
davidwhangchoi replied to Keith's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
i had a friend who was so drawn in by the beta he, didn't come out of his room the entire weekend. He said it was amazing. -
Like the Isamu YF-29 Durandal Custom, they should've marketed this as a 171 in M7 Diamond Force custom color.
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Yeah, just look at the Yamato 17's in comparison. I think they struck a great balance in the proportions for all three modes. With the FAST packs, it's even better. Bandai couldn't even bother remolding more of the parts to be accurate to the VF-17, skinniness aside. The only thing the Bandai beats it in is availability, which I guess is the most important factor for those who don't have the Yamato.
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Yes its mine too. Now bring on the D variant plus Emerald force variants Hopefully they will redesign the legs and knee joints to bulk it up as what they did for VF-19 instead of just repainting it and throwing a new head. They could use some of engineering ideas they did fof the legs for YF-21
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I'm glad i ended up buying one of those high priced Yamato 17D that never went on sale from sabrina_skimpy from China.
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That was a roller coaster ride. At first I was happy about a new sleek fighter-mode VF-17 with proper markings (two areas where the Yamato one was a real letdown). But this all came crashing down after realizing it is a remold of the VF-171. And the VF-171 mold has several, not just the terrible knee joint design: the shoulders, the sliders for the fists, the way the chest locks together, the wing connection, the shoulder triangles. Sure later releases made them less error prone and more durable but I still don’t want to see them on new toys. Plus it is super line art inaccurate in a way that the Fire Valkyrie is not (which is a re-shell of the DX VF-19 I assume). If they had to reuse the VF-171 mold, Bandai should have take more care in re-shelling all the parts; this is just lazy. To be clear I’m not harping on the proportions. You cannot replicate anime magic in a physical form and I would love to have a sleek jet mode VF-17 but it needs to be more accurate than this. Also why the hard points on the wings? I don’t remember the VF-17 having ordinance in M7.
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So.. on the small plus side of things.. they can remold all of the explodium parts in the proper powder blue rather than that obsidian garbage, so at least in theory they'll be less prone to shatter. (The splotchy color makes me think this is just a repainted 171 though.) Also funny that they didn't bother to mount the gun in fighter mode. Cuz.. you know. It's the wrong one. The least they could do is to mold a new one and just pretend they care.
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The 1/65 VF-17D/S is still one of my favorite Macross toys.
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I'll say this; the show is entertaining, but it's as much to see where they're going with the story as it is for the extraordinary comedy of errors and obscene buffoonery by, more often than not, trained professionals disregarding said training and paying heavily for their negligence. This show is positively rife with improper actions and poor decisions that are just blatantly made to serve the story. Every time somebody makes a huge oopsy, they should just give a wink or a nod at the camera b/c it's like having sex in an 80s slasher film- it's all a gratuitous precursor to the ensuing chaos and death.
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Quite right, especially when we compare to: Exactly, they should have started from the 1/65 as base reference sculpt and improved from there. But I guess Bandai is going for minimal effort just swapping a few parts from the 171.
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I'm hoping that Bandai will make some last minute changes to the DX VF-17S to make it a bit more lineart accurate, but I'm not holding out much hope.
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A brand new toy based on a 14 year old release? Oof. They should have done a missing link 1/65.
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With the announcement of the DX Chogokin VF-17S, adding to the M7 hype! 🤣
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So, the issue is purely Bandai's terrible design choices for the leg, and their inability to write proper instructions. I wrote a detailed guide to everything they did wrong in the old 171 thread, and listed some steps to hopefully help prevent the legs from exploding, but there is nothing that will fix the issues with the knee without a fundamental redesign of the knee mechanism.
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I think the only way to get a VF-17 that looks lineart/anime accurate in all three modes will be if Bandai makes a model kit of it in the HG Shortcut Change model kit line, with swabable chunky lower legs.
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I personally feel more secure with my renewals transformation. the plastic on the triangles isnt as brittle as the original.
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Thank God I prefer the 17D. The 17 has a ton of anime magic. Just hard to get all three modes somewhat presentable on a toy. But if you all are warning it has the same flaws/design issues as the 171, it makes it a much easier pass. Don’t feel like dealing with preorder madness garbage either.
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ah man.... this is kinda Unaccpetable.....
