Mospeada

[Froy]

Up at Nin nin

https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/takara-tomy/225444-genesis-climber-mospeada-legioss-alpha-toyrise-afc-01x-alpha-takara-tomy-.html

HLJ

https://www.hlj.com/toyr-se-afc-01x-alpha-legioss-alpha-tkt08281

Edited Thursday at 10:24 PM by Froy

[m0n5t3r]

Overhead view of bare fighter mode looks nice.

[jenius]

Ordered mine at HLJ. A reminder about my affiliate link if anyone else is going to grab one! 

https://www.hlj.com/?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=scorchedearthtoys

[M'Kyuun]

Surprising, the wings are configured differently than the green one, although in soldier, they both appeared to share the same wing assemblies. I like this better, however I'm content with my Omega PO for now.

[lechuck]

[MKT]

Gotta say it is pretty adventurous of Toyrise to have already opened PO for 3 variants even before first one has released. 

I wonder if there will be a Tread for each one of them, and how would their wings match up with respective Legiosses. 

[Big s]

2 hours ago, MKT said:

Gotta say it is pretty adventurous of Toyrise to have already opened PO for 3 variants even before first one has released. 

I wonder if there will be a Tread for each one of them, and how would their wings match up with respective Legiosses. 

Pretty wild these days. So many companies are pushing their production and are three or four releases in preorder que or more before one even gets released, but usually at the start of a line they will at least get a first product out

[26662]

2 hours ago, Big s said:

Pretty wild these days. So many companies are pushing their production and are three or four releases in preorder que or more before one even gets released, but usually at the start of a line they will at least get a first product out

I'm fine with the practice described above...unless...this strategy is the new Ponzi Scheme/Kickstarter where companies rely wholly on early preorders (i.e., the Omega) to fund the production of later releases (i.e., Delta, Alpha, etc.) due to capital constraints.

[jenius]

Nah, most POs don't involve payment to distributors but I'm sure counts of POs are tracked somehow to help determine if they should keep offering more products. Love that the newest version can remove the weaponry. 

[Froy]

This gotta be about the Tread I guess

[Big s]

22 minutes ago, Froy said:

This gotta be about the Tread I guess

Will it be an extra funky tread or something closer to the standard one? 

[jenius]

Lol, with how strange the last two were, all bets are off. Maybe it's a robot horse for the green one to ride into its joust tournament. Could it finally be anime versions of the Legioss? Or maybe it's time for a red prototype. Hard to imagine how a Tread would work for this series... What color would it be?

[Mog]

The Tread will be an actual tank (with wings).

And then another version of the Tread will be an extra large version of Jim’s truck (with biplane style wings).

[Froy]

There are some glimpses of the Tread and variants in the promotional poster. If these are the acutal designs they don't look bad at all

  

 

Edited yesterday at 09:08 PM by Froy

[26662]

8 minutes ago, Froy said:

There are some glimpses of the Tread and variants in the promotional poster. If these are the acutal designs they don't look bad at all

  

 

You might have nailed it.  I never inspected the earlier artwork all that closely except to say, yup, thar's a tlead.

[26662]

There were a couple folks discouraged by the 'high heels.'  Looks like this may be a nonissue.

[26662]

2 hours ago, Froy said:

This gotta be about the Tread I guess

It took a minute but I was able to hack into their servers and expose the next figure!

[Mog]

 

23 minutes ago, 26662 said:

There were a couple folks discouraged by the 'high heels.'  Looks like this may be a nonissue.

^^Still the same issue.

Ideally, the front light-grey part of the foot should angle forward more, so that the foot doesn’t have so much of a high-heel arch.

As has been said before, it’s probably a design compromise to keep the price down.  In a perfect world, they’d design the whole foot assembly to collapse into the leg more.  It makes for a cleaner, compact fighter mode and helps to stabilize the feet in the other modes by allowing the heel to sink a little into the leg cavity.

[Robin-11]

For a moment i thought you guys were talking about the Tread for the upcoming Pose+ Legioss😅

[26662]

1 hour ago, Robin-11 said:

For a moment i thought you guys were talking about the Tread for the upcoming Pose+ Legioss😅

I wish.  Even though I’ll prolly need a small bank loan to afford it.  😂

[26662]

4 hours ago, Mog said:

 

^^Still the same issue.

Ideally, the front light-grey part of the foot should angle forward more, so that the foot doesn’t have so much of a high-heel arch.

As has been said before, it’s probably a design compromise to keep the price down.  In a perfect world, they’d design the whole foot assembly to collapse into the leg more.  It makes for a cleaner, compact fighter mode and helps to stabilize the feet in the other modes by allowing the heel to sink a little into the leg cavity.

I’m not seeing it.  Got a picture of what “ideal” looks like?

 

[Please delete if this is a duplicative post, but I’m not seeing the original post on my end.]

[Mog]

Toyrise foot (looks like standing on tippy toes or as if wear super-high stiletto heels):

Sentinel foot:

Toynami Alpha foot:

[rsvictor1976]

I got that black AFC-01X Alpha on preorder. I wish I had done the same for the blue Legioss Omega one. 

[26662]

1 hour ago, Mog said:

Toyrise foot (looks like standing on tippy toes or as if wear super-high stiletto heels):

Sentinel foot:

Toynami Alpha foot:

Appreciate your indulgence.  Seems I understood you just fine.  I just figured there had to be more to your criticism.  I'm not pulling out the pitchfork for ~15 degrees of delta.

[m0n5t3r]

2 hours ago, Mog said:

Toyrise foot (looks like standing on tippy toes or as if wear super-high stiletto heels):

Sentinel foot:

Toynami Alpha foot:

What I'm wondering is, instead of configuring the front foot and heel like this for soldier:

...configure it like how it looks here in diver for soldier mode. Balance issues maybe?:

There's another pose where you can kinda see the inner part of the foot joint mechanism.

[WhatBoutMyStar]

1 hour ago, 26662 said:

Appreciate your indulgence.  Seems I understood you just fine.  I just figured there had to be more to your criticism.  I'm not pulling out the pitchfork for ~15 degrees of delta.

Note that the Legioss foot configuration is not the same for diver and soldier modes. The Toyrise appears to have more limited foot articulation that doesn't allow the front of the foot to splay out and flatten in diver mode as it typically would.  It also looks like the heel cannot be extended back like the Sentinel does with a slider mechanism. Compare the Toyrise to Sentinel below, pic courtesy of Jenius' site

1 hour ago, m0n5t3r said:

What I'm wondering is, instead of configuring the front foot and heel like this for soldier:

 

...configure it like how it looks here in diver for soldier mode. Balance issues maybe?:

 

There's another pose where you can kinda see the inner part of the foot joint mechanism.

 

I see no reason why you couldn't leave the feet configuration and use it diver for soldier as well and I doubt it would negatively affect balance.  It just wouldn't be accurate to how the feet are supposed to be configured and look for soldier, which is the heel flipping down and not extended back like for diver.

Using the diver feet configuration for soldier would also reduce the height of the figure and the figure is pretty small as is being smaller than the Sentinel.

Edited 15 hours ago by WhatBoutMyStar

[M'Kyuun]

22 hours ago, Froy said:

This gotta be about the Tread I guess

Initially, I figured this referenced the standard Eta, Iota, and Zeta versions, but yeah, it'd be cool if these initial. more imaginative, Legioss relaseses got Treads to match. I've yet to own a Tread, and with an Omega on PO, I may just have to indulge in one for it if the design isn't too far out there. 

11 hours ago, WhatBoutMyStar said:

Note that the Legioss foot configuration is not the same for diver and soldier modes. The Toyrise appears to have more limited foot articulation that doesn't allow the front of the foot to splay out and flatten in diver mode as it typically would.  It also looks like the heel cannot be extended back like the Sentinel does with a slider mechanism. Compare the Toyrise to Sentinel below, pic courtesy of Jenius' site

I see no reason why you couldn't leave the feet configuration and use it diver for soldier as well and I doubt it would negatively affect balance.  It just wouldn't be accurate to how the feet are supposed to be configured and look for soldier, which is the heel flipping down and not extended back like for diver.

Using the diver feet configuration for soldier would also reduce the height of the figure and the figure is pretty small as is being smaller than the Sentinel.

Regarding the feet, I'm wondering if the heels and toes line up if you configure the heels for soldier, but splay the toe out as seen in diver mode. Best option if so. I'm just not at all crazy about the weirdly high arches of the feet as they've been depicted in most of the promo shots. If I have to keep them in diver config while in soldier mode, so be it. Shame they didn't go just that little extra in the design process to allow for clearance for the toe to move forward a tad more like the Sentinel or the Toynami, both of which did it beautifully, especially the Sentinel. That small additional arc of motion makes a big difference IMHO.

Hard to believe the Toyrise figs are smaller than the already small Sentinel figs. I'm getting the sense that these will feel comparable to a voyager/leader class Transformers figs in-hand, which isn't a bad thing, especially if they have that level of sturdiness and playability. It also keeps them space-friendly for the space-impaired, like me.

[Robin-11]

18 hours ago, 26662 said:

I wish.  Even though I’ll prolly need a small bank loan to afford it.  😂

I agree, me too. And still, i wish Pose+ would release all the three variants of Legioss and Tread. I know, i have issues.😂

[M'Kyuun]

Just now, Robin-11 said:

I agree, me too. And still, i wish Pose+ would release all the three variants of Legioss and Tread. I know, i have issues.😂

I'll third, especially when the much smaller Legioss sets you back $500+, and yet, if their Legioss is a good judge of what's to come with their Tread, it stands to be the pinnacle of that design in a toy. That said, I'm still trying to figure out where I'm going to put my Pose+ Legioss, big chunky thing that it is, let alone a Tread that will dwarf it. Too, not sure I want to spend around a grand for it, either. If I get a Tread eventually, it'll most likely be a Sentinel version to go with my Eta.

[Robin-11]

17 minutes ago, M'Kyuun said:

I'll third, especially when the much smaller Legioss sets you back $500+, and yet, if their Legioss is a good judge of what's to come with their Tread, it stands to be the pinnacle of that design in a toy. That said, I'm still trying to figure out where I'm going to put my Pose+ Legioss, big chunky thing that it is, let alone a Tread that will dwarf it. Too, not sure I want to spend around a grand for it, either. If I get a Tread eventually, it'll most likely be a Sentinel version to go with my Eta.

I own the tread and the legioss from Sentinel and i love them. The two toys, combined together, are stunning. But i also have a lot of toys from Pose+ and most of them are incredible. And judging from the adds-on for the Gaogaigar a Tread  would be amazing. But yes, i understand what you are saying and i am with you: no clue of where to put it and spending so much money on a toy that i already have a version which i love it is...hard to justify. 

[sh9000]

I'd probably consider getting these new Legioss if the intake area was painted grey instead of yellow orange.

[Big s]

21 minutes ago, sh9000 said:

I'd probably consider getting these new Legioss if the intake area was painted grey instead of yellow orange.

It does make them look a bit like the gundam chest vents. 

[M'Kyuun]

6 minutes ago, Robin-11 said:

I own the tread and the legioss from Sentinel and i love them. The two toys, combined together, are stunning. But i also have a lot of toys from Pose+ and most of them are incredible. And judging from the adds-on for the Gaogaigar a Tread  would be amazing. But yes, i understand what you are saying and i am with you: no clue of where to put it and spending so much money on a toy that i already have a version which i love it is...hard to justify. 

I'm in the fortunate position that I'm financially able to afford these toys, although $500 is pretty steep and bears some consideration before I commit. However, space to put new acquisitions has become the bane of my existence. Between a rather voluminous LEGO collection (2-3000 sets), a respectable Transformers collection (I estimate 3-400 toys), around 30 Macross toys, and an assortment of other toys that I've accumulated over the years, not to mention all of their boxes intact, much of my available space has dwindled. My wife generally doesn't care what I buy; she knows that I'm financially responsible and the bills are always priority and paid. The dwindling space for stuff and her lack of a personal space to call her own is her general complaint, which is totally fair. Eventually, I want to build an outbuilding in my back yard to use as both storage and studio; my backyard isn't huge, but it could accommodate a 20x40 building nicely. Unfortunately, I live within a small town that limits outbuilding size to no more than 50% of your available backyard, which is crap IMHO. It's my land, I'm paying for it, I don't use my backyard for anything (my dog uses it to do his business, and I mow it occasionally) and I should be able to use as much of it for whatever purpose I deem necessary so long as I'm not endangering anyone else (fire codes and such). I'd love to just put a big building back there using all that space to put all my crap, but I'm going to have to compromise so I'm hoping I can go vertical with it instead of horizontal. I just need to find a good contractor to build it for me as I'm no carpenter.

I was going to buy a Sentinel Tread, but fearing what this administration might do to my VA disability, I passed. There's since been more clarity, so for now I'm safe. Consequently, I've been once again indulging in my hobbies, which are pretty much what I live for. That Sentinel Tread still appeals to me, although I remain far more enamored with the Legioss. I just love transforming jets if they're done well, and although Kawamori's realistic valks are peak, there's something alluring about the Legioss' design that has always struck a chord. It's just a cool sci-fi design with more than a smidge of believability. That said, given my druthers, with space at a premium and given the choice, I'd prefer to have more Legioss toys in lieu of a Tread. If I get my building, though, oh there will be a Tread in my future! 😄