Pierre Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Just thought to put this up so this wont happen to anybody else. Today the left arm broke off at the bicep cover, I was shocked considering this was my first time transforming the 0a since Sept, during which it was in fighter mode on a display stand. I was able to fix it by taking apart the arm so please remove the screw on the bicep cover and lossen the screw on the forarm just enough so it comes off the end of the arm. If you doo see a crack put super glue or epoxy to fill the crack. I decided to inspect the right arm to see if there was anything going on with it and it was also cracked. I had to glue the bicep cover to the left arm because the joint snapped into 3 different peices. I think the 0s does not have this problem the bicep covers are glued to the arm so it must reinforce the arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Just thought to put this up so this wont happen to anybody else. Today the left arm broke off at the bicep cover, I was shocked considering this was my first time transforming the 0a since Sept, during which it was in fighter mode on a display stand. I was able to fix it by taking apart the arm so please remove the screw on the bicep cover and lossen the screw on the forarm just enough so it comes off the end of the arm. If you doo see a crack put super glue or epoxy to fill the crack. I decided to inspect the right arm to see if there was anything going on with it and it was also cracked. I had to glue the bicep cover to the left arm because the joint snapped into 3 different peices. I think the 0s does not have this problem the bicep covers are glued to the arm so it must reinforce the arms. Thanks for the info Pierre. Pictures might help us visualize your description though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I think that the screw tightens the swivel joint, but also weakens the plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 IO, you're pretty much spot on... same thing happened to me after I tightened up the shoulders with nail polish and screwing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 IO, you're pretty much spot on... same thing happened to me after I tightened up the shoulders with nail polish and screwing... Guess I'm the only one who got super tight shoulders, I had to loosen the screws a little bit. My VF-0A shoulders are intact. I did the same with the Garland to release tension. It's murphy's law at it's best, you stop tightening the screw when you break it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 It's murphy's law at it's best, you stop tightening the screw when you break it damn right!, you play with fire you will get burned! but aside from that i must go check myy 0A now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnShockwave Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Thanks for the heads up. I just loosened mine and the arms seems fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I've only taking it out the box. I guess I'd better take a closer look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 This is worrying, but it's too early to start to panic. Hopefully it's just a few isolated incidences of drastically overtightened screws and not another full-blown VF-11B epidemic. AFAIK, only 2 or is it 3 MWers have reported this problem with their VF-0A so far? Still, I'll be checking my three VF-0A when I get home. Oh, and can we have some photos from those who have had the toys arms break, so I can pass the pics onto Yamato. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 BOTH of my VF-0S bicep sections have stress marks and one has already broken. I'm going to swing by Home Depot and pick up the epoxy that ghostryder recommended. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnShockwave Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Although, as a precautionary measure you might want to just loosen those screws a wee bit. That's what I did with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante74 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Checked my VF-0S and A yesterday. Both seem fine. fjewf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 my new oa's seem ok, but this is what happened t o my frst one. well one of the things that happened to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 So just to confirm then - once I get my VF-0A, I should immediately unscrew the shoulder assembly and loosen up the bicep screws? Is there anything else I should do to make sure the arms don't snap off of my expensive christmas gift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 So just to confirm then - once I get my VF-0A, I should immediately unscrew the shoulder assembly and loosen up the bicep screws? Is there anything else I should do to make sure the arms don't snap off of my expensive christmas gift? I loosened the screws one turn just because the shoulders of my VF-0A were ultra tight!!! If you don't receive a lemmon (it occasionaly happens) you should be okay Play with it or just display it but don't worry it won't self destruct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drifand Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Noted. And thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfPuppets Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 same thing happened to me after I tightened up the shoulders with nail polish and screwing... Same thing happened to me at the shoulders with my 0S about a week ago. Turned it too tight and I saw a crack. Luckily it didn't break into pieces, it's still holding together but I'll have to glue it to reinforce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensei Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I also theorise with that delicate shoulder assembly, that multiple transformations that involve a bit of a pull to get the arms out from fighter to GERWALK will stress the shoulders. Sometimes that bracket doesn't clear from the body of the fighter to swing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 My 0A's shoulders were never too tight, and I always handled it like a virgin during the F mode to G/B mode transformation. Still, the shoulder broke. Since I've fixed it with epoxy, I've left it in fighter mode, which looks the best anyways . Yamato just made the tolerences too tight around the shoulder/intake/swingbar area for stress-free transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 actually yeah the shoulders on both mine are pretty loose. easily just as loose as the 0S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 post the pics if you can. I might be more delicate in future with it knowing that the tightness may be stressing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 (edited) Just opened my VF xmas gift, and noticed that both shoulders were a little loose. I looked in and saw that the left arm had a nice large crack in it! It's almost completely broken off. I crazy glued it now, but feel absolutely nauseous inside. I feel like i've just pissed away 200 dollars for nothing! Dammit! I passed on MP 03 Starscream to get this figure because I thought it would be sturdier, but wound up with a broken toy anyway. I'm really pissed right now, this has ruined xmas for me. What the hell can I do about this? Does Yamato offer individual parts for sale for the VF-0's? Should I try to superheat the plastic and melt it back together? Or is crazy glue and nervous fear anytime I transform this figure the only option for me now? ARGH. Edited December 25, 2006 by Magnus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 Can we have some photos please? We've got several people this has happened to, but no pics yet. I'd like some pics to pass onto Yamato. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 (edited) Can we have some photos please? We've got several people this has happened to, but no pics yet. I'd like some pics to pass onto Yamato. Graham http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...=143&st=443 http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=21002 Edited December 25, 2006 by ghostryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Just checked the shoulders on my VF-0 toys last night (4 x VF-0S & 3 x VF-0A) and thankfully all are fine. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Just checked the shoulders on my VF-0 toys last night (4 x VF-0S & 3 x VF-0A) and thankfully all are fine. Graham Graham, considering how rough you are transforming these things, I find that hard to believe . Let us know how the 0A shoulders fare after the transformation video... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 HEh Well Actually I never tightened any screw on my 0a I was trying to to bend the lower arm at the elbow when it flew off. I started looking through the posts here and saw some of us were having trouble with loos shoulders. My 0A had loose shoulders too but that never bothered me before,but i decided I should check them out. I took off the outher halves of the shoulder armor and there were cracks that winded around the inner shoulder. Mind you I never wonce tried to take the arm off at the ball socket I removed them at the under side of the back plate so robot arm and the swiveling arm were in one peice. No brute force on any part of the 0a. I Really think It might be a good idea if yamato decides to use p.o.m for all of the upper arm parts that act as "bones" for their future releases. I wish I had a digital camera to take some pics. I also took of my 0s' shoulder armor and ther were stress marks in the upper arms also. They are in the area Under the circular pegs the outer shoulder armor rotates on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 From what I can tell from reading through the various VF-0 threads, we so far have 9 reported incidences of VF-0A or VF-0S shoulders already cracked or showing stress marks. The following members have reported this problem: - 1) Gatillero PR. 2) Pierre. 3) prometheum 5. 4) UN Spacy. 5) Scream Man. 6) Master of Puppets. 7) Ghostryder. Magnus. 9) eugimon. Anybody else? I'd like to keep a running total. Hardly an epidemic yet, but still cause for concern. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 my 0s has a crack in the same place mentioned. only 1 of the 2 though. And my 0a looks fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancougar Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 My first version loose arm, loose feet VF-Os has stress marks in one of it's bicep too Guess i am the few lucky ones with all the EXTRA features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I just wanted to reiterate that the plastic epoxy I used (shown here) seems to be working well, in case you guys have tried Krazy glue and it failed. I transformed it a couple of times and all looks secure. An added bonus is that the fixed shoulder is tighter than the shoulder that's not broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I couldn't find that stuff when I went looking for it. Would you recommend using it ontop of already applied krazy glue, or do you think that'd be overkill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I couldn't find that stuff when I went looking for it. Would you recommend using it ontop of already applied krazy glue, or do you think that'd be overkill? If it ain't broken, don't fix it! If it does break and you want to try epoxy, go to an automotive store - they should have different brands of 2-part epoxies for plastic/soft plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 checked over what I have 0S #1 - crack in left shoulder socket 0S #2 - what looks to be a rubber washer sqeezing out of right shoulder socket 0A #1 - returned when left arm shattered at bicep, and right shoulder had cracks. 0A replacment - seems fine at the moment 0A #2 - also seems fine at the moment. i think part of the problem is thatt he shoulder is a joint u HAVE to put a fir bir of pressure on when u transform. U basically pull down on the arm to get it to shift round for G and B modes. I plan on waiting for the next 0S to come out (The infamous v2) and iof its in good shap, Ill get it. and Ill get the shin with ghost, though i really hope the issue has been fixed on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Ace Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I plan on waiting for the next 0S to come out (The infamous v2) and iof its in good shap, Ill get it. Who wants to bet money that the second release has at least one crooked skull on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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