Thom Posted March 2, 2024 Author Posted March 2, 2024 Whether or not CLU's plan would have worked depends a lot on 'hand-wavism.' A lot of sci-fi works best with a certain level of suspension of belief, esp since that in movies reality/physics generally bend to the will of the story. It's been a decade since I saw it last, but I think I recall that there was some fear that Quoora would not survive the transition to the real world, but then we see her on the back of Sam's bike, enjoying the sunrise just before the credits role. For me, that lends some credence that it was possible for the rest to happen also. It's the fiction part of sci-fi.😉
Dynaman Posted March 2, 2024 Posted March 2, 2024 Logic goes completely out the window in the world of Tron. At best it is allegory.
mechaninac Posted March 2, 2024 Posted March 2, 2024 TRON is far more techno-fantasy than it is science-fiction. Abandon all logic ye who enter here.
Bolt Posted March 2, 2024 Posted March 2, 2024 10 hours ago, Raikkonen said: They better be riding Ducatis or Aprilias!!! Agreed.
TangledThorns Posted March 3, 2024 Posted March 3, 2024 14 hours ago, mechaninac said: TRON is far more techno-fantasy than it is science-fiction. Abandon all logic ye who enter here. Hersey!! But yes, that rule applies to almost all fiction.
mechaninac Posted March 3, 2024 Posted March 3, 2024 2 hours ago, TangledThorns said: Hersey!! But yes, that rule applies to almost all fiction. Heresy? Dang it, I was aiming for unadulterated blasphemy...
Raikkonen Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 (edited) And... I've checked out. While only a few details about the TRON: Ares story have emerged, the official synopsis states "TRON: Ares follows a highly sophisticated Program, Ares, who is sent from the digital world into the real world on a dangerous mission, marking humankind’s first encounter with A.I. beings." 🤬 - TRON: Ares will have a major shift in setting, focusing on a Program sent to the real world on a mission, a departure from The Grid. - The new film will star Jared Leto and an ensemble cast, potentially exploring the interaction of AI with humans outside of The Grid. 🤬 They've totally missed the plot that the Grid is Tron, and Tron is the Grid. Edited March 6, 2024 by Raikkonen
Thom Posted March 6, 2024 Author Posted March 6, 2024 Yes, it's just set in the Tron universe. That was one of the drawbacks of Legacy, as there was far too little of Tron, though I rewatched it today and, except for the de-aging, it holds up well enough. Looking back, I think they should have spent their money on de-aging Boxleiter in order to show more of Tron rather than having two versions of Flynn, but that's water spilled ten years ago. Plus, the Tron movies should be about (Tron of course!) being on the Grid. AI's done in the real world have been done before, and really hold little interest for me. So, yeah, so far less reason to watch this.
pengbuzz Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thom said: Yes, it's just set in the Tron universe. That was one of the drawbacks of Legacy, as there was far too little of Tron, though I rewatched it today and, except for the de-aging, it holds up well enough. Looking back, I think they should have spent their money on de-aging Boxleiter in order to show more of Tron rather than having two versions of Flynn, but that's water spilled ten years ago. Plus, the Tron movies should be about (Tron of course!) being on the Grid. AI's done in the real world have been done before, and really hold little interest for me. So, yeah, so far less reason to watch this. Hopefully they'll revise the story more, although I don't have any confidence in Disney at this point. If they want the real world and the grid, they should do a story where the grid is out of control and threatening to consume the real world. Edited March 6, 2024 by pengbuzz
Bolt Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 On 3/6/2024 at 12:50 PM, Raikkonen said: And... I've checked out. While only a few details about the TRON: Ares story have emerged, the official synopsis states "TRON: Ares follows a highly sophisticated Program, Ares, who is sent from the digital world into the real world on a dangerous mission, marking humankind’s first encounter with A.I. beings." 🤬 - TRON: Ares will have a major shift in setting, focusing on a Program sent to the real world on a mission, a departure from The Grid. - The new film will star Jared Leto and an ensemble cast, potentially exploring the interaction of AI with humans outside of The Grid. 🤬 They've totally missed the plot that the Grid is Tron, and Tron is the Grid. This sounds less interesting..
mikeszekely Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 On 3/6/2024 at 3:50 PM, Raikkonen said: - TRON: Ares will have a major shift in setting, focusing on a Program sent to the real world on a mission, a departure from The Grid. Wait, who wants to watch a Tron movie that's not set in The Grid? The Grid is what makes Tron interesting. On 3/6/2024 at 3:50 PM, Raikkonen said: - The new film will star Jared Leto 🤮
sh9000 Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 Time flies. I can't believe Tron: Legacy came out in 2010.
mikeszekely Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 2 hours ago, sh9000 said: Jeff Bridges confirms his return. That's probably the only good news I've heard since this film was announced.
Duke Togo Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 6 hours ago, mikeszekely said: That's probably the only good news I've heard since this film was announced. It definitely moves the needle on my opinion of it.
TangledThorns Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 I'd love to see a remaster of the Legacy where they update de-aged Jeff Bridges.
Thom Posted April 30, 2024 Author Posted April 30, 2024 15 minutes ago, TangledThorns said: I'd love to see a remaster of the Legacy where they update de-aged Jeff Bridges. Tru dis! And I guess Flynn did not die on the grid..?
Hikuro Posted May 3, 2024 Posted May 3, 2024 I'm curious where he's gonna be taking this.....I assumed he was dead after his merging with CLU in Legacy wiping out his variant of the grid. I'm also wondering how he's been doing health wise having to battle cancer and covid at the exact same time and how he's recovered.
TangledThorns Posted May 3, 2024 Posted May 3, 2024 10 hours ago, Hikuro said: I'm curious where he's gonna be taking this.....I assumed he was dead after his merging with CLU in Legacy wiping out his variant of the grid. I'm also wondering how he's been doing health wise having to battle cancer and covid at the exact same time and how he's recovered. There was a back-up of Flynn on floppy disk.
mechaninac Posted May 3, 2024 Posted May 3, 2024 9 minutes ago, TangledThorns said: There was a back-up of Flynn on floppy disk. On one of the 5.25" ones, at that...
Old_Nash_II Posted May 3, 2024 Posted May 3, 2024 15 minutes ago, mechaninac said: On one of the 5.25" ones, at that... Like.Optimus.Prime XD
mechaninac Posted May 5, 2024 Posted May 5, 2024 9 hours ago, Hikuro said: Guess it'd been to soon for a zip disk huh? At least two decades too soon. Oh boy, are we dating ourselves or what?...
pengbuzz Posted May 5, 2024 Posted May 5, 2024 On 5/2/2024 at 9:07 PM, Hikuro said: I'm curious where he's gonna be taking this.....I assumed he was dead after his merging with CLU in Legacy wiping out his variant of the grid. I'm also wondering how he's been doing health wise having to battle cancer and covid at the exact same time and how he's recovered. It makes me wonder, with his being a user and all, if he knew things that would allow him to survive where programs would not on the grid?
Raikkonen Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 Spoiler pic... Spoiler So... the programs can bleed in our world...
Thom Posted June 1, 2024 Author Posted June 1, 2024 7 hours ago, Raikkonen said: Spoiler pic... Hide contents So... the programs can bleed in our world... Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..?
Raikkonen Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 40 minutes ago, Thom said: Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..? Only 2 characters shown so far. Leto and Bridges.
Old_Nash_II Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 8 hours ago, Raikkonen said: Spoiler pic... Hide contents So... the programs can bleed in our world... Messiah of Grid XD
Big s Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 2 hours ago, Thom said: Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..? That’s because the are in the real world where things get hairy and kinda messy
Bolt Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 4 hours ago, Thom said: Is it me, or do most of his characters all have long hair and beards..? Lol. I just thought the same thing
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