Kurimao Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 Which one would you rather have from the two? Me I dont care w/c one is the anime correct but I'll still choose the better looking one. And hopefully this can influence Yamato...
combined arms Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 the one on the left definitely looks better on the valk. on the right photo sculpt, the chest armor blocks the line of sight to the head, and the leg armors seem too bulky.
GobotFool Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 to be honest, with the exception of the goofy crotch I prefer yamatos rendition. The yamato GBP looks so agressive and mean. While the slightly slimmer look of the model kit is probably more accurate I prefer yamatos interpretation because I think it holds closer to the spirit of what the GBP armor is all about, making the valk look even bigger and meaner.
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 THe yamatoa one is big and bulky and looks like it can murder anything that looks at it. I like the yamato one!
Mr March Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 The Hasegawa battroid models naturally look superior to any Yamato produced Valkyrie simply because of the transformation design compromises Yamato must make and because Hasegawa models are built for detail rather than durability. By extention, the Super, Strike, and GBP armors are going to look better when created for a better looking base mecha upon which to add the accessories. With that in mind, I can honestly say that while I find the Hasegawa custom GBP better looking, Yamato has done a damn fine job with their 1/48 scale GBP. In some respects, they've even made the GBP armor more menacing to look at. The 1/48 GBP is simply the best looking armor set for any TOY version of a VF-1 valkyrie I've ever seen and it wins such praise by a very large margin I might add. I'd rather have a GBP armor set (and the Valkyrie) that looks like the Hasegawa models, but is a toy and fully transformable. But without such a product, I am more than pleased with my 1/48 scale Yamatos and I know I'll love the GBP accessory set.
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) Left looks more accurate but the right looks very imposing and fierce. (ie badass. Like the skinny valk is now a chunky destroid) If given a choice for only 1 I would probably end up getting the left if it meant no compromises in robustness. My main worry is how sturdy is the toy and if the armor will pop off. But if they do end up with the right, please give us detachable hand upgrades or extensions to suit the rest of the body. Edited April 18, 2005 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker
wolfx Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 The Yamato one is better. Hasegawa's is way too slim. Even the original lineart shows the GBP to be extra chunky with extra big Mickey Mouse hands.
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 The one on the left is better looking but its not fair to compare a painted one with an unpainted sculpt. And as Mr March said, one is a transformable toy the other is a model. Just include the TV hands and Yamato will be ok. I have already written off the posability of the toy, don't think its possible without bending the laws of physics!
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) The one on the left is better looking but its not fair to compare a painted one with an unpainted sculpt. And as Mr March said, one is a transformable toy the other is a model. They are going to release the one on the right as a low visibility GBP jk Me I dont care w/c one is the anime correct but I'll still choose the better looking one. Just out of curiosity, which one? Edited April 18, 2005 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker
lt.actionjackson Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I agree that the one on the left is probably closer to anime accurate, but the one on the right looks like he eats girly men for breakfast. I'm choosing the one on the right, because I want my 1/48 valk to look intimidating.
Pat S Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Hmm, I can't decide which one looks better, I think they're both a little off.
Pat S Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) The chest armor and shoulders on the Yamato are way too big, but the arms look ok. Edited April 18, 2005 by Pat S
Pat S Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) shoji kawamori drawing Edited April 18, 2005 by Pat S
connor99 Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I have to agree with MR.MARCH here. The YAMATO version does look menacing and aggresive, which is exactly what the GBP ARMOR should look like. So, I guess it is the YAMATO version for me. Although, I'd probably take both, if given the opportunity. I mean, who wouldn't ?!
doodler7 Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Yep, I agree with the Yamato design...more realistic in looks. It'll definitely stand out against 1/60 armored gundams.
Graham Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 And hopefully this can influence Yamato... Errr.....ok. When Yamato have spent nearly a year in development, have the CAD designs finished and already have a completed physical sculpt, plus have probably started to cut the steel molds, I'm sure they will be influenced by a photo of a model from an old hobby magazine . Just because a few fans prefer that model kit sculpt, doesn't mean Yamato is going throw out their existing design and start all over from scratch. There is already a lot of money invested in the design so at this stage of development there is no way that they are going to be making any major changes. Graham
Valk009 Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) No matter what, the Yamato one is set and will sell like hot cakes since this is the first removable GBP-1S toy since the Taka one decades ago I guess Yamato could have done a better job if they did not insist on making all missiles detachable, this will no doubt add difficulties to the scuplt, not to mention the fat chest syndrome Btw, is the one on the left the Yellow Submarine 1/100 resin kit or a scratch build using a Hase VF-1 as base? Edited April 18, 2005 by Valk009
Graham Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 No matter what, the Yamato one is set and will sell like hot cakes since this is the first removable GBP-1S toy since the Taka one decades ago You are forgetting Yamato's earlier 1/60 version! (Although many of us wish we could forget it) . Graham
Hurin Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 And hopefully this can influence Yamato... Errr.....ok. When Yamato have spent nearly a year in development, have the CAD designs finished and already have a completed physical sculpt, plus have probably started to cut the steel molds, I'm sure they will be influenced by a photo of a model from an old hobby magazine . Just because a few fans prefer that model kit sculpt, doesn't mean Yamato is going throw out their existing design and start all over from scratch. There is already a lot of money invested in the design so at this stage of development there is no way that they are going to be making any major changes. Graham Heh. Perfectly said. Plus, even if they were to "start over". . . I'm not sure how they could improve it to make it more accurate to the line art. They are constrained by the 1/48 VF-1 itself. And, as we all know, there is a lot of "anime magic" in how a VF-1 looks between fighter and battroid mode. Not to mention the GBP line art's liberties with proportion. Yamato can't just wish it into looking like the line art. It has to fit on the friggin' toy! H
Renato Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Exactly. The two renditions of the GBP Armour look different mainly because of the vast differences in the proportions of the Battroid Valkyrie that is encased inside each one.
Onimusha-shin Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 You are forgetting Yamato's earlier 1/60 version!(Although many of us wish we could forget it) . good point, haha. lucky i never got started on 1/60s (though that means i'll never get an Ostrich or Elint ) but IMHO, the anime version doesn't even look good. i'd easily settle for M0's GBP (if it's called that) but in my opinion, none of the original Macross GBPs were too damn good looking in the 1st place. that said, i say Yamato has done a FINE job with bringing out the menace in the GBP design. a strike valk might not be able to inspire fear in a zentran cruiser's crew but a GBP with its missile pods open would do that and the Yamato version seems to have done quite well. just my two cents worth
Pat S Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Exactly. The two renditions of the GBP Armour look different mainly because of the vast differences in the proportions of the Battroid Valkyrie that is encased inside each one. Aw, that chest launcher section on the 1/48 could be trimmed down some don't you think?
Kurimao Posted April 18, 2005 Author Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) And hopefully this can influence Yamato... Errr.....ok. When Yamato have spent nearly a year in development, have the CAD designs finished and already have a completed physical sculpt, plus have probably started to cut the steel molds, I'm sure they will be influenced by a photo of a model from an old hobby magazine . Graham Ok not Yamato, cuz as you said it would be too impossible. But some other chinese toy companies could try (like the makers of MP Trailer) Just out of curiosity, which one? Sleek, sexy, right proportions, highly mobile, & realistically more intimidating... the Hasegawa version. Edited April 18, 2005 by Kurimao
Ido Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I'd like better an hase GPB, the yamato gpb will be a display piece anyways and a model just looks better.
Jin_Kune_Do Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Id pick the Yamato one...mainly because its so "aggresive" and is realistic to the 1/48s transformation and proportions. Think of it like this....if you was gonna do battle all alone against superior odds...id pic the one that has more protection and more volume to carry more armaments. - Jin
izzyfcuk Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) though the left one is more proportionate, i still like that right one because it's one.........BIG Second......FAT Thirdly.......UGLY Lastly........"GET OUTTA MY WAY" LOOK Edited April 18, 2005 by izzyfcuk
Deimos Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 right one menacing enuff to fight against my MG grade Alex NT-1 gundam with armour !
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