sketchley Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 maybe not be official of ride series but also appears the vf 1 I wonder if has variations with respect to original Why would MtR need to use a ,as far as I can tell, holographic VF-1, when they've already got the VF-1XX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 maybe not be official of ride series but also appears the vf 1 I wonder if has variations with respect to original This has NOTHING to do with Macross the Ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s001 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Why would MtR need to use a ,as far as I can tell, holographic VF-1, when they've already got the VF-1XX? Because the VF-1 is beautiful as it is and the VF-1XX is ugly as sin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Because the VF-1 is beautiful as it is and the VF-1XX is ugly as sin? How's that? As the VF-1XX has the same externals as the VF-1X. Or are you referring to all the option parts and customizations used on the one used in Vanquish racing? Edited August 3, 2011 by sketchley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusherJ Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 It's been stated that the Unified Forces have focused on development of VFs, and that Zentraadi were retrained to pilot VFs in numerous publications. In addition to the Variable Gluag, they're known to have piloted the VF-14 and VA-14 in the Macross 5 Fleet. By appearances, the YF-21 was designed so that pretty much only Zentraadi could pilot it. The appearance of the Queadluun-Rhae in MF came as a surprise, as it was inconsistent with previous information on Zentraadi mobile weapons in Macross. But ultimately, as MF went and revised Macross considerably, it's possible that other Zentraadi power suits or derivatives were developed. Ok, thanks for the clarification Sketchley. Thanks to Talos as well for responding; hope I didn't come across as rude in my reply. Am I right in thinking that all of the VFs in the Vanquish Race basically have the speed of an AVF and that's why some (like the VF-1XX and VF-9E) are highly unstable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Am I right in thinking that all of the VFs in the Vanquish Race basically have the speed of an AVF and that's why some (like the VF-1XX and VF-9E) are highly unstable? Speed + manueverability. They're unstable because they're using burst-turbine engines that are souped up to the max in jury-rigged airframes with a lot of experimental systems crammed in. And that's not even including the dangers of the race, itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talos Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Ok, thanks for the clarification Sketchley. Thanks to Talos as well for responding; hope I didn't come across as rude in my reply. Am I right in thinking that all of the VFs in the Vanquish Race basically have the speed of an AVF and that's why some (like the VF-1XX and VF-9E) are highly unstable? Nah, you're good. It's sometimes hard to convey things in text. What I always found interesting about the Power Armor in Macross Plus was that it seems to combine the Male and Female Power Armors into one Hermaphroditic one, though closer to the N-Ger in overall appearance. As far as the Vanquish racers, sketchley is dead on. Think of them like 1960s pre-Formula race cars. Biggest engines in the smallest, lightest, simplest frames possible, no matter how dangerous. These airframes aren't designed to handle that kind of power at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 These airframes aren't designed to handle that kind of power at all. Except for those VF-17s, 19s, and 22s..... But yes, Vanquish is a race. And in a race where racers can modify their machines, you can expect them to be running something that is not exactly in the specs and making modifications which most people would probably find dangerous, bordering on crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talos Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I know, I was specifically referring to the VF-1XX and VF-9E that were mentioned earlier. It is a race, that's why I alluded to auto racing before the strict Formulas started adding some sanity to them. Fortunately they don't have to worry about carrying armaments in Vanquish either. That would open up a whole different kettle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyriechild Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 First thing on my mind when VF-1XX showed up was drag racing, i mean about the level of the danger. Always pushing to the limit. And the people involve in it has the same level of insanity as well, but in a good way. So much passion for racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusherJ Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) Nah, you're good. It's sometimes hard to convey things in text. What I always found interesting about the Power Armor in Macross Plus was that it seems to combine the Male and Female Power Armors into one Hermaphroditic one, though closer to the N-Ger in overall appearance. As far as the Vanquish racers, sketchley is dead on. Think of them like 1960s pre-Formula race cars. Biggest engines in the smallest, lightest, simplest frames possible, no matter how dangerous. These airframes aren't designed to handle that kind of power at all. Ok cool, thanks Sketchley and Talos! Yeah, that powered suit does look like an amalgamation of the Q-Rau and N-Ger. So the planes are as fast and as maneuverable as AVF's just not in frames that can handle that level of performance. The analogy with pre-Formula race cars makes a lot of sense. So it's fair to say that most of the pilots have the skill level/temperament of Isamu considering he could be pretty reckless? Man I hope this gets animated one day! Edited August 4, 2011 by CrusherJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggooftoybox Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 thanks for that pre-Formula racing analogy. That's why i was wondering why a Vanquish racer would fly a VF-1xx or VF-4 when compared to a VF-19 or VF-25 the VF-1 and VF-4 are obviously inferior and outdated machines. I guess the take the VF-1 and VF-4 airframes and jsut cram in whatever they can to make it comparable in speed to the VF-19 etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Money/connections? Probably a *lot* easier to find/buy/maintain a VF-1 than a VF-19. Remember in the beginning of Mac 7, Gamlin wasn't allowed to even READ the more in-depth specs of a VF-19. By the time of Macross R, I'd imagine it's still not easy to own one, even for the rich. (nowadays it's still nigh-impossible to have an F-4, even WWII planes are sometimes grounded for legal/military issues) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 It could also have something to do with nostalgia or the 'cool' factor. It must feel pretty sweet to beat a bunch of racers in AVFs when all you have is a VF-1. Even if it's a heavily modified VF-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganbare Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Could somebody help me? I know that MTR has only 2 volume. I got confuse with this one: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4048706543/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0XGDJF5X0HJ5D2BG5DEZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463376736&pf_rd_i=489986 Is this the 2nd book? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Could somebody help me? I know that MTR has only 2 volume. I got confuse with this one: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4048706543/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0XGDJF5X0HJ5D2BG5DEZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463376736&pf_rd_i=489986 Is this the 2nd book? Thanks. You're confusing things. So far, only 2 books have been published: 1) collection of the novelization (the publication in your link) 2) collection of the models/mechanical stuff (this: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89%E3%83%93%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%96%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%80%88Vol-1%E3%80%89-DENGEKI-HOBBY-BOOKS/dp/4048706764/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313379077&sr=1-2 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganbare Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 You're confusing things.So far, only 2 books have been published: 1) collection of the novelization (the publication in your link) 2) collection of the models/mechanical stuff (this: http://www.amazon.co...13379077&sr=1-2 ) I see. Good one I buy the correct one .Thank you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggooftoybox Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I see. Good one I buy the correct one .Thank you for the info. Other than Amazon Japan, does anyone know of another North American accessible site to purchase the Macross The Ride books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Other than Amazon Japan, does anyone know of another North American accessible site to purchase the Macross The Ride books? Have you tried typing "macross the ride visual book" into Google? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talos Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 HMV Japan has it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroRay Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 CD Japan has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Dengeki Hobby is out. Another issue of MtR that is mind blowingly awesome (and that's from ONLY looking at the pictures!) Take the title page spread: the YF-27-5 leading a flight of 4 Neo-Glaugs. Think about that for a moment. The YF-21's boss in the PS1's "Macross Plus Game Edition". Mass produced. Used by General Galaxy. Awesome. We also get a code for the Neo-Glaug: VBP-1/VA-110 Neo Glaug. (Does it mean Variable Battle Pod/Variable Attacker???) Other VFs... and there's a whole LOAD o' VF-11 variants: VF-11B Lacrimosa (our first VF to have "Dengeki" on it as a "sponsor") Then, in the "What's Vanquish!! 2" feature, focused on the "Thunderbolt Class" Vanquish races: VF-11B/X Sister Valkyrie (Nun themed ) VF-11B kai El Camino Real (following are colouring only, kits not made) VF-11 "803" VF-11B Miyabi VF-11B/MAXL Red Curtain (body shape looks EXACTLY like a regular VF.) VF-11B Rev-Splash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talos Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 That definitely sounds like a good issue! I can't wait to see it. I'm really interested in that MAXL, since I've long-theorized exactly that and I plan on doing a profile line art for it, once I get my base VF-11 work done. How did they do the tails on it? Just on the wingtips or did it have four like the VF-0D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 They used the exact same helicopter shot lineart as the other 3 VF-11 on the same page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talos Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 They used the exact same helicopter shot lineart as the other 3 VF-11 on the same page. Naturally, naturally. Seeing this got me working on my VF-11 again, enough to mock up a cockpit interior (that I'm going to have to redo anyway, I'm not satisfied with it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 VF-11B/X Sister Valkyrie (Nun themed ) Ouch, this sounds soo G Gundam, and that sends me shivers (of terror) down my spine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 ^ Epic win scares you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frothymug Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Ouch, this sounds soo G Gundam, and that sends me shivers (of terror) down my spine... Does this help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) Does this help? He's got a super punch, and....makes flour in his spare time. I just got the new Dengeki Hobby, and it is really, really good. Those scratchbuild Neo Glaugs are awesome. I wonder if that kit transforms at all? If only Yamato would make one of those. Edited August 28, 2011 by Jasonc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Cool!!! http://dc-dist.dengeki.com/macross_r/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Cool!!! http://dc-dist.dengeki.com/macross_r/index.html Not working for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Mmmm, I can see that the link doesn’t work sometimes, that’s kind of annoying... Try to copy the link location, open a new tab, past the link and search. Then look at page 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobizon Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Cool!!! Neo Glaug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Translated a bit of the Neo-Guraaji (Gluag) last night, and surprise surprise, the writers appear to have mixed the Variable Guraaji with the Neo Guraaji. (The VG being manned (either macron or micron pilots) and the NG being unmanned.) The use of the VG's design in the scratch build should've been a clue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I just got the new Dengeki Hobby, and it is really, really good. Those scratchbuild Neo Glaugs are awesome. I wonder if that kit transforms at all? If only Yamato would make one of those. Probably not. Again, this is Dengeki Hobby, a magazine for model makers, toy customizing enthusiasts and scratch builders. The great thing about the magazine is, they'll tell you what it's made out of (custom or production resin kits or production model kit) and most of the time, HOW they did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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