RedWolf Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Macross Plus happened 19 years before Frontier takes place, which is several years prior to the launching of the Frontier itself. I mean geez, did you guys all just come off the Robotech bus, or what? Which is coincidentally the same year of first contact with the Vajra. They never heard from them again till 8 years later with the 117th research fleet being destroyed. It's not like Sharon Apple invited them with her singing, right? Right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I hope the Macross is salvageable, else we have to start preparing the commemorative videos 1982 - 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 I hope the Macross is salvageable, else we have to start preparing the commemorative videos 1982 - 2008 I suspect the Macross is just fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Ignoring all posts this morning, just in case... Look forward to catching up with you all after Chihiro's out! Part on dudes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garou Kuroryuu Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I hope the REAL KICK-ASS Macross replaces that dwarfed-wannabe the Quarter is from here on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegablue Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 OK, some help here. I've only seen, Macross, Macross 2, Plus, Zero, and now this Frontier. Is there something in Macross 7 and DYRL that is affecting Frontier and is not making since to me now? Example, what is Megaroad, and what is meant that DYRL was filmed on a set? ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 OK, some help here. I've only seen, Macross, Macross 2, Plus, Zero, and now this Frontier. Is there something in Macross 7 and DYRL that is affecting Frontier and is not making since to me now? Example, what is Megaroad, and what is meant that DYRL was filmed on a set? ? ? http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=26406 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulendil Ang Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) OK, some help here. I've only seen, Macross, Macross 2, Plus, Zero, and now this Frontier. Is there something in Macross 7 and DYRL that is affecting Frontier and is not making since to me now? Example, what is Megaroad, and what is meant that DYRL was filmed on a set? ? ? Megaroad-01 is the first colonization ship launched. And in Macross universe, DYRL is a historical movie based on the events of the original Macross, hence the phase "filmed on a set". EDIT: Ninja'd. Edited July 3, 2008 by Sulendil Ang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skull1 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 So has it been settled? Which side won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulendil Ang Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 So has it been settled? Which side won? No... At least, not yet. We should know who are right in less than an hour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegablue Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=26406 Thank you Duke Togo. I'm aware of that thread. However it was just a question regarding Frontier considering this is a Frontier topic, which involved on several other replies before mine those two queries. PS, if you thought I was newbie. Please compare the dates registered with yourself and myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) OK, some help here. I've only seen, Macross, Macross 2, Plus, Zero, and now this Frontier. Is there something in Macross 7 and DYRL that is affecting Frontier and is not making since to me now? Example, what is Megaroad, and what is meant that DYRL was filmed on a set? ? ? *Looks at grammar and tries to understand context.* 1. DYRL or Do you remember love is a fictional movie about Space War 1 in the Macross continuity. 2. Macross 7 occurs 5 years after Macross Plus. One of the Macross colony fleets Macross 7 encounters a mysterious enemy, the Protodevlin. The main protagonist is Nekki Basara, a rock singer, whose power of song ended the war with the Protodevlin and saved the galaxy from destruction. Ozma Lee, SMS Skull Squadron leader is a fan of Nekki Basara/Fire Bomber fan. Sound speakers concept which was first used in Macross 7 was also used in the last episode. 3. Megaroad is the class designation for the original city ships built after Space War 1. The most famous of these is the missing Megaroad 1 which contains the Space War 1 heroes Hikaru, Misa and Minmay. Of the Megaroad class at most 30 where built till the the New Macross Class fleets became standard. Edited July 3, 2008 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegablue Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Megaroad-01 is the first colonization ship launched. And in Macross universe, DYRL is a historical movie based on the events of the original Macross, hence the phase "filmed on a set". EDIT: Ninja'd. Thanks for directing me there. Going through timeline now, and making sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegablue Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 *Looks at grammar and tries to understand context.* 1. DYRL or Do you remember love is a fictional movie about Space War 1 in the Macross continuity. 2. Macross 7 occurs 5 years after Macross Plus. One of the Macross colony fleets Macross 7 encounters a mysterious enemy, the Protodevlin. The main protagonist is Nekki Basara, a rock singer, whose power of song ended the war with the Protodevlin and saved the galaxy from destruction. Ozma Lee, SMS Skull Squadron leader is a fan of Nekki Basara/Fire Bomber fan. Sound speakers concept which was first used in Macross 7 was also used in the last episode. 3. Megaroad is the class designation for the original city ships built after Space War 1. The most famous of these is the missing Megaroad 1 which contains the Space War 1 heroes Hikaru, Misa and Minmay. Of the Megaroad class at most 30 where built till the the New Macross Class fleets became standard. Now this is awesome info. At last this thread and the one of Episode 12 are starting to register. LOL Many sorries for the weak grammar. Only noticed now how I mixed up 'since' with 'sense'. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Thank you Duke Togo. I'm aware of that thread. However it was just a question regarding Frontier considering this is a Frontier topic, which involved on several other replies before mine those two queries. PS, if you thought I was newbie. Please compare the dates registered with yourself and myself. Registered with the new forum, not the old. AFM veteran, thank you very much. And that was question for the newbie thread. Edited July 3, 2008 by Duke Togo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Looks like everyone was wrong. It seems that the SDF-1 was actually a large Varja vessel in disguise . Unless I saw that wrong. I dunno, that episode wass very confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 So has it been settled? Which side won? *Scratches head* Not very sure....and i missed the 1st half....so guess we'll wait for subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 *Scratches head* Not very sure....and i missed the 1st half....so guess we'll wait for subs. Yeah, gonna wait until the subs come out or one of our Japanese speaking members confirms what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) WTF-1 is... SDF-4 Global, flagship of the 117th Research Fleet. Edited July 3, 2008 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) WTF-1 is... SDF-4 Global, flagship of the 117th Research Fleet. I'm glad I was wrong about this SDF... It means the Earth was spared ... I believe the SDF-4 was the only other Macross Class vessel constructed, while the rest were Megaroads. The 117the fleet used the Macross ship for Vajra research. The bugs feed on Superdimensional energy. That's why they built their nest there... Fleets of Macross Class warships is a no go... Edited July 3, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 See, was it so hard to wait a frakin week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA This thread has now become an all time classic of MW. See, never say never! *throws around a celebratory tossing of eggs into everyone's face* I was fairly sure it was the SDF-1, but again, Macross Frontier throws us all for a loop. A great surprise Edited July 3, 2008 by Mr March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Yeah, but we still don't know WTF it was, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 So now that it's all over, maybe the fault lies in the translation of Alto's line? Could he have referred to it as A Macross, rather than THE Macross? Or maybe it was just a cruel red herring, especially with the promise of Global-related shenanigans in the preview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 So now that it's all over, maybe the fault lies in the translation of Alto's line? Could he have referred to it as A Macross, rather than THE Macross? Or maybe it was just a cruel red herring, especially with the promise of Global-related shenanigans in the preview. Oh course it was, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 meh. boring explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Memory of Global ends up Global being the name of the ship... and memories refer to Ranka's childhood.... zzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Silversmith Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Who says Kawamori doesn't love Macross II? He just made it possible for it to become official with the teeniest of retcons. The Macross in MacrossII was really the SDF-3 and was the flagship of the second Colonization fleet. They Find a habitable world, Call it "New Earth" and set up home. Unfortunately for them there is a major fold fault between them and Earth, cutting off all communications. After a while they stop thinking about the old earth, and simply refer to their planet as earth, and the SDF-3 simply as the Macross. Then 80 years later an offshoot of the protoculture called the Marduk show up. Now it fits into continuity just fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Who says Kawamori doesn't love Macross II? He just made it possible for it to become official with the teeniest of retcons. The Macross in MacrossII was really the SDF-3 and was the flagship of the second Colonization fleet. They Find a habitable world, Call it "New Earth" and set up home. Unfortunately for them there is a major fold fault between them and Earth, cutting off all communications. After a while they stop thinking about the old earth, and simply refer to their planet as earth, and the SDF-3 simply as the Macross. Then 80 years later an offshoot of the protoculture called the Marduk show up. Now it fits into continuity just fine! Not quite. Other "adjustments" are needed to MII to bring it into line with the Nue continuity, however, if SK so desired, he could use this latest revelation as a basis. This is also assuming the idea of multiple SDF battleships wasn't something he envisioned for the Nue universe all along. He isn't one to lay out his secrets until he has reason to. Besides, SK has always publically maintained that he's never seen MII, so had no opinion on it. Edited July 3, 2008 by Zinjo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 This is also assuming the idea of multiple SDF battleships wasn't something he envisioned for the Nue universe all along. I disagree. I think what we saw there was a gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisaForever Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Why don't you guys just start taking bets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 I disagree. I think what we saw there was a gimmick. Possibly, and possibly not. We'll have to wait and see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Possibly, and possibly not. We'll have to wait and see... Wait and see what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) have mentioned this in the episode thread, now expanding it: it doesn't make sense that the WTF-1 is "just a disguise/gimmick" if u consider the fact that: - we can be sure that there is really a sdf-1 styled ship named "Global" because Alto's X-Gear records recognised it, thus verifying the existence of such a ship. - Ranka herself gets her flashbacks after seeing it means that she recognizes it sub-consciously. It was indeed a ship from her past (flagship of the 117th Research Fleet). as for whether the one we see now is the real flagship of the 117th: - there is a "photo" of young ranka inside it, not to mention the doll lying on the floor and the broken vehicle. - dont make sense for a disguised ship to have broken vehicles and dolls internally. Ranka's photo is good evidence that the ship had a real past (i.e. not disguised/fake ship). the queen vajra probably altered it internally to make her hive, so the external parts fall off when it lifted off. EDIT: new thoughts after re-watching - i realized that the vajra mothership might not be "inside" the WTF-1 Global but rather under it... the "Global" broke up when it was pushed up by the vajra mothership, so we're still unable to determine the size of this thing. Edited July 3, 2008 by Shun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 Wait and see what? A gimmick implies that it isn't real. So far it is beginning to look real. If you mean "gimmick" in creating a controversy that the ship was indeed the Macross, when it wasn't, then I'd agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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