Uxi Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Very nice progression, Ghostkiller. Looks great! Overall, I still prefer Dobber's scheme but it looks much more complicated (and thus time consuming and expensive). I definitely see Ghostkiller's as more likely for Yamato to give us and Dobber's to remain the customizer's choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkiller Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 Hi guys been looking at the wings today I ended up not really happy with the camo on the wings so I have redone it I have redone the camo on both main wings I had to use sandpaper to erase the old marks left by the first apply of blue it helps a lot and thanksfully it looks like it is the first apply of paint now the balance of blue is way better now for my taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 oh nice, I agree the blue balance on the wings looks more even now. And those daylight pics you posted were great. Sunlight just really helps those colors come alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Awesome man, hope they do up an official Dobber factory sealed. I'll buy that for a dollar huah huah huahhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twoducks Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Two cats and daylight make it look even better!! Like the new balanced wings too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odr78 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Ghost killed me ....... Your sv-51 is perfect..... I hop Yamato make the same camo for SV-51.... But please.. Don't forget the red stars..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Wow, lookin better every time I see it. I agree with odr78 on that it definately needs some red stars, it is a Russian paintscheme afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Looking spectacular! That is one fine custom and very fitting given the eastern-styled design of the SV-51 fighter. These are some of my favorite fighter colors. I've always loved that scheme. Dobber is it? Wow, looks amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 People are calling it the Dobber Camo scheme because of my custom Hasegawa SV-51 I painted a while ago. Graham showed Yamato the pictures of my model and said that it may be a possible repaint in the future. If you haven't seen it yet here are some pitures. I've been inspired by ghostkiller to pay tribute to myself and paint my Yamato like my Hasegawa, if that makes any sense!! http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/cd821/TOYS295.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/cd821/TOYS292.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/cd821/TOYS291.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/cd821/TOYS290-1.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/cd821/TOYS289-1.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/cd821/TOYS288.jpg Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Great paint job Dobber! Really nice. I hope they do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gian7675 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Clap-clap-clap-clap!!!!!! Wow Ghostkiller! Your SV-51 is really neat! Great paint job! I have a question though...when you painted this guy...did you have to dismatle every pice of the SV-51? As is remove allt he parts connected with each other? If yes, how did you tighten back the parts when you put them back together again? When you transform it, how are there any paint chippings happening now on your magnificent creation? Great work! I wish i could make one...sigh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Ace Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 I've been inspired by ghostkiller to pay tribute to myself and paint my Yamato like my Hasegawa, if that makes any sense!! Why don't you go ahead and make two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Ace Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) I don't have an SV-51 yet, but I'd like to get one with the right paint scheme. Edited November 26, 2007 by Wicked Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Mr March--expanding on that, Dobber based his off of one of the NSWAC F-14 schemes. That NSAWC F-14 scheme was itself (apparently) based off of Ukranian Flanker splinter camo. Ghostkiller based his off of Dobber's version of NSAWC's version of the Ukraine's splinter version of the standard Flanker camo. Which IMHO ended up looking mostly like Ukranian splinter camo pattern in standard Flanker colors. Regardless, it "looks like a Flanker scheme". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Aaahhh, I see. Dobber is just a nickname because of that member's previously posted custom. The real name is the splinter camo for the Ukranian Su-27 Flanker. Dobber's infamy has lead to my misunderstanding Thanks Dobber and David Hingtgen for clearing that up. Wow, that sure was quite the round of influences to get to Ghostkiller's version I always loved this color scheme; it's been one of my favorites for years. And it doesn't hurt that it's featured on one of my favorite fighters. It's really quite strange that it's a Ukrainian fighter that has one of my all time favorite color schemes. I'm part Ukrainian myself! *twilight zone music plays* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Well actually, the REAL name would be "The adversary camo worn by F-14A 161869, while painted up as Black 20 for NSAWC in 1999/2000". NSAWC based theirs on the Ukrainian splinter camo, but it's certainly "their own" and Dobber followed that one (AFAIK), not a Ukrainian pattern. But he "splintered" the camo more than it was, and even more than the Ukrainians do. So it's like "super splintered". I posted several camo diagrams and links on the first page of the thread, check my posts on the first page. Second pic is a different plane in similar camo, but shows the colors better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) We should include these pictures as references too... And new Yamato 1/60 SV-51 CF is the best candidate for Su-37 Super Flanker camo... Edited November 26, 2007 by charger69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante74 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) Painting a jet in Camoflage makes sense and all, but could someone tell me why they painted the whole noes area white? It probably has something to do with the radar that's inside, but a certain color of paint doesn't interfere with radar does it? Edited November 26, 2007 by Dante74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) Well actually, the REAL name would be "The adversary camo worn by F-14A 161869, while painted up as Black 20 for NSAWC in 1999/2000". NSAWC based theirs on the Ukrainian splinter camo, but it's certainly "their own" and Dobber followed that one (AFAIK), not a Ukrainian pattern. But he "splintered" the camo more than it was, and even more than the Ukrainians do. So it's like "super splintered". I posted several camo diagrams and links on the first page of the thread, check my posts on the first page. Second pic is a different plane in similar camo, but shows the colors better. Yes, David is correct, mine is mainly based off of the NSAWC Tomcat but I wanted to use more Flanker like colors..ie they are a little more light. I also "super-splintered" it to make it more of my own and to try and make it more complex. I should be starting on mine soon but my baby girl is going to be born tomorrow through C-section....soooo......I may have to put it off for a few days Chris Edited November 26, 2007 by Dobber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkiller Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 I should be starting on mine Chris ouhouhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Dobber all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy007 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Yes, David is correct, mine is mainly based off of the NSAWC Tomcat but I wanted to use more Flanker like colors..ie they are a little more light. I also "super-splintered" it to make it more of my own and to try and make it more complex. I should be starting on mine soon but my baby girl is going to be born tomorrow through C-section....soooo......I may have to put it off for a few days Chris congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Nosecones often aren't painted at all, they're either molded in color (they're not metal) or covered in urethane, which both only come in certain colors. It is because of radar interference. If it's white, it's probably because it's molded that way. MANY missiles have white nosecones. Planes often have mis-matched nosecones because even if they're lucky enough to get one that "matches"---it almost always fades at a different rate, or it never quite matched in the first place. And it takes years for nosecones to start becoming available in a new color if the camo changes---it's not a very high priority. The amount of non-metallic nosecone (and types) needed varies by plane and radar, and can change over time as materials and radar improve. Early F-14's had half the nosecone "radome tan" and bare, while newer ones can have all 3 colors of their standard low-vis painted on. (And that's one of the few spots to see all 3 colors in close proximity) F-15's have only the extreme tip molded in color, the rest can be painted--but the entire structure is still non-metallic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkiller Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 Clap-clap-clap-clap!!!!!! Wow Ghostkiller! Your SV-51 is really neat! Great paint job! I have a question though...when you painted this guy...did you have to dismatle every pice of the SV-51? As is remove allt he parts connected with each other? If yes, how did you tighten back the parts when you put them back together again? When you transform it, how are there any paint chippings happening now on your magnificent creation? Great work! I wish i could make one...sigh... Ivanov needs to be dismantled as when he gets shot at the end of macross zero lol seriously here are the parts that I have unscrewed the legs were not dismantled I have just masked with tape the knees knees and articulations taped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante74 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 I should be starting on mine soon but my baby girl is going to be born tomorrow through C-section....soooo......I may have to put it off for a few days Chris Congrats! I think the repaint will have to wait a few weeks instead of a few days. Nosecones often aren't painted at all, they're either molded in color (they're not metal) or covered in urethane, which both only come in certain colors. It is because of radar interference. If it's white, it's probably because it's molded that way. MANY missiles have white nosecones. Planes often have mis-matched nosecones because even if they're lucky enough to get one that "matches"---it almost always fades at a different rate, or it never quite matched in the first place. And it takes years for nosecones to start becoming available in a new color if the camo changes---it's not a very high priority. The amount of non-metallic nosecone (and types) needed varies by plane and radar, and can change over time as materials and radar improve. Early F-14's had half the nosecone "radome tan" and bare, while newer ones can have all 3 colors of their standard low-vis painted on. (And that's one of the few spots to see all 3 colors in close proximity) F-15's have only the extreme tip molded in color, the rest can be painted--but the entire structure is still non-metallic. Damn David, you know just about everything there is to know about aircraft don't you? you should write a book sometime and get some money out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Poor little F-16 sitting next to that Su-37, hasn't a chance. Goodluck Ghostkiller, you have alotta parts to dismantle . Also I agree with Dante74 about David writing an all around aircraft book/encyclopedia, he has too much information to just keep locked away in his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkiller Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 Poor little F-16 sitting next to that Su-37, hasn't a chance. Goodluck Ghostkiller, you have alotta parts to dismantle . Also I agree with Dante74 about David writing an all around aircraft book/encyclopedia, he has too much information to just keep locked away in his head. job done already Dizman sv-51 in one piece and repainted all the way I am just looking for 1/72 scale russian red star Anyone can send me some ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnurmin Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Ghostkiller: Very nice work. I like the Dobber color scheme =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californium Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Wow, lookin better every time I see it. I agree with odr78 on that it definately needs some red stars, it is a Russian paintscheme afterall. Why not a red version of the Anti-UN cross? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 WOW! I would def. get a 51CF if it came in the brown Super Flanker camo... Yamato, listen up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkiller Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 ==>Here are secret pics of the first russian variable fighter produced by Sukhoi company Pictures were taken aound midnight SV-51 serial number 01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkiller Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Did you use the kit stickers? From what I can tell, Yamato did use Flanker markings. PS--I would have expected Russian-style modex numbers. Like this: A big, bold, outlined/shadowed number on the nose would make it look very Russian. Just a suggestion. I have seen ones more like you did on recent Flankers, but a big number with a white border is just so very "Russian" for planes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalist Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkiller Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 Did you use the kit stickers? From what I can tell, Yamato did use Flanker markings. PS--I would have expected Russian-style modex numbers. Like this: A big, bold, outlined/shadowed number on the nose would make it look very Russian. Just a suggestion. I have seen ones more like you did on recent Flankers, but a big number with a white border is just so very "Russian" for planes. u r right I did use yamato stickers on some parts but wanted to get 01 on this bird that is why if someone can provide me 01 like real flanker number I will change it but I doubt it does exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Is the color important? I can find large "01" but only in red. (I'll ask at my favorite airplane modeling forum if there are any decals that are easy to get in France) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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