deadghost Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 just like the title guys, do they even make it. ]I lookd all over the place, but nothing, I say its a erusian military conspiracy. The kit is out their man, but where. (x-files theme) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSP Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 WonderFest HobbyShow only ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Oh thank God I thought that you meant X-files 2 the movie. I wouldnt want to wish that on anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loner Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 It exists, and I have photographic proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 And yet there's still people who think the X-02 was NOT based off the YF-23... (the second photo is made from about the most famous photo of YF-23 #2--I can post the original if anyone cares) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 someone explain this thread to me. why is mulder here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) this is about the X-02 wyvern also known as the YF-25 from ace combat 4 (and 5, and zero) the plane is a super plane in the game, it can out-fly every other plane in the game and has a huge weapon load. the kit he is refering to was produced by hasegawa but is ultra super rare and no one has one. look here http://www.shatteredskies.net/x02analysis.html and here http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0192b.shtml (second one has pics of the model) I can't say way mulder is here. Edited October 17, 2006 by anime52k8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) And yet there's still people who think the X-02 was NOT based off the YF-23... (the second photo is made from about the most famous photo of YF-23 #2--I can post the original if anyone cares) And I still like the YF-23 more. X-02 has too many fins and spines for my liking. And having the canard located there doesn't seem right for aerodynamics. Edited October 17, 2006 by Retracting Head Ter Ter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 the kit he is refering to was produced by hasegawa but is ultra super rare and no one has one. There never was a Hase kit of the X-02. The kit in the magazine was scratchbuilt by one of Hobby Japan's modelers (in Hasegawa quality, no less). -i- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Many thanks anime52k8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 According to that article, the X-02 has variable geometry wings???? Where is the pivot point? I can't make it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 is that thing designed for flying through super low density atmospheres or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I think the pivot must be at the wingtip, that or the FSW section retracts, very poor idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 X-02 has the outer half of the wings swing INSIDE the wingroot. When the wing tips are retracted, the wings are identical to the YF-23. (the leading edge splits open to allow the tips to go inside). Canards---just write it off to "close-coupled in the extreme". Pure wing airflow control, rather than pitch control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 There would be some interesting drag effects during the wing transition to be sure based on that CGI of the fighter on the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 (edited) X-02 has the outer half of the wings swing INSIDE the wingroot. When the wing tips are retracted, the wings are identical to the YF-23. (the leading edge splits open to allow the tips to go inside). Canards---just write it off to "close-coupled in the extreme". Pure wing airflow control, rather than pitch control. Would have made more sense for the outer wing to 'retract' sideways into the inner wings rather then swing forward while having those honking big split 'airbrakes'*** open up! I find too many anime planes with FSW and unecessary fins and spines. I am more a fan of the SR-71/YF-23 'blended' school of design. ***I guess this is one plane that can yaw faster then anything else in the air! Just 'brake' one wing! Edited October 18, 2006 by Retracting Head Ter Ter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wldr Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 There would be some interesting drag effects during the wing transition to be sure based on that CGI of the fighter on the ground That's for sure! If the transition was made at a high enough speed the wings would more than likely be torn right off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armentage Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Anyone who doesn't see that the X-02 is obviously a YF-23 is an idiot, and i mean that in the harshest possible way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Never a lack of idiots over at Gamefaqs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Anyone who doesn't see that the X-02 is obviously a YF-23 is an idiot, and i mean that in the harshest possible way. Hey, be fair! Aside from an identical nose section, canopy, engine nacelles, ruddervators, fuselage shape, exhaust ducts,wing root and overall form, the rest of the plane is different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 They're the same, with the exception that the X-02 looks better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 They're the same, with the exception that the X-02 looks better I actually like the YF-23 more. Less fussy shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garou Kuroryuu Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I actually like the YF-23 more. Less fussy shape. Well, I like both, so, yeah, burn me for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Anyone who doesn't see that the X-02 is obviously a YF-23 is an idiot, and i mean that in the harshest possible way. or... possibly not very familiar with the newest fighter planes... never mistake personal knowledge for common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emajnthis Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I actually like the YF-23 more. Less fussy shape. The 23 is still one of my all time favorite planes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 or... possibly not very familiar with the newest fighter planes... never mistake personal knowledge for common knowledge. Fair enough BUT if one has not seen the YF-23 then one should not be commenting that the X-02 isn't based on the 23! And there are those who still don't see the errors of their ways even after photo evidence is presented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Which is what I was referring to. Said idiots said there were no similarities, when people posted side-by-side pics at the same angle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Which is what I was referring to. Said idiots said there were no similarities, when people posted side-by-side pics at the same angle... Must be the same angle and dimensionally blind folks who insist that the YF-21 isn't based on the YF-23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechTech Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I looked at that and said, what? TOOooo much wing "stuff." In reality, if the wing roots did open up, it'd probably stall out and crash. Remember the P-3 the Chinese colided with? Only part of it's nose went and the pilot lost control over it. Wow, what if your wings did that? Canards are awesome (just ask the Swedes), but not like that... - MT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 It should be noted that the X-02 photochopped from the YF-23 image does not show the X-02 from the games. The actual model shares fewer similarities with it's counterpart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 But it is still clearly derived from the YF-23, just look at the arrangements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I never denied that. I just wanted to correct the X-02 = YF-23 opinion, and state that the Namco designers were not that lazy when they made up the X-02. And I'm very happy that they chose the YF-23 as a base for their advanced fighter design. -i- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garou Kuroryuu Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 It should be noted that the X-02 photochopped from the YF-23 image does not show the X-02 from the games. The actual model shares fewer similarities with it's counterpart. Front fuselage? Check! Canopy? Check! Cockpit-rear bump? Check! Air ducts shape? Check! Ruddevators? Check! Wing-root shape? Check! Naaaaah, very few similarities...forget about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishimaru Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Hey, be fair! Aside from an identical nose section, canopy, engine nacelles, ruddervators, fuselage shape, exhaust ducts,wing root and overall form, the rest of the plane is different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Naaaaah, very few similarities...forget about it I said fewer (than in the photoshopped pic), not few. And with your logic, you will find out that the F-15 and F-18 are actually the same plane! -i- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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