terry the lone wolf Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 check it out: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentrandude Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 now thats a chopper. Guessing with the tires on fire he must of went with the firestones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 now thats a chopper. Guessing with the tires on fire he must of went with the firestones. And if the bike itself was on fire, it would be a Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 And if the bike itself was on fire, it would be a Ford. With a pyrotechnical "assist" from NBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 on the words of Paris Hilton, "That's hot!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 This will always be the Ghostrider bike for me - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 This will always be the Ghostrider bike for me I dunno. That chopper makes a pretty good case about why IT should be Ghost Rider's bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeo-mare Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 very cool looking bike, looks like something from Spawn though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Interesting... I can see that being GR's bike. It IS rather Spawn like, but I think that a slightly McFarlene-ish interperetaion of GR could equate to one bad mofo character... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Pinche Haro! Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 This will always be the Ghostrider bike for me same here...that new bike looks just wrong to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Too much chrome... Waaaaaaay too much chrome. I'm with Max, Ghost Rider's "slab sided" bike is the one I think of when I think "what does Ghost Rider ride?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 simplify it with surfaces and edges inseated of bones and chains and itll look better, i do tihnk it looks pretty badass as it is, but its way to busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 yeah, I'm not quite sure what is going on with the sides.... maybe a little too much there. The fire would play on the chrome better if the chrome was less busy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 The bike looks more like something Geiger would come up with instead of McFarlane. Just look at the sides and it looks like some of his Biomechanical series of drawings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 For my personal tastes I think that bike, while cool looking, looks like something to come out of Orange County Choppers(also cool). However, I don't see GR riding something like that. I totally dig the flaming wheels. I was wondering if they'd keep them in the movie. I wonder if they'll have Dan Ketch or Johnny Blaze. It would be cool to have the former because then Blaze could run around too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 No no no, you guys have it all wrong. Ghost Rider's bike should look like THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I totally dig the flaming wheels. I was wondering if they'd keep them in the movie. How how they're actually wheels on fire, and not just glowing yellow circles, since that'd make it look too much like the Lightcycles from Tron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 No no no, you guys have it all wrong. Ghost Rider's bike should look like THIS. What about the one on a horse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyryder Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) No no no, you guys have it all wrong. Ghost Rider's bike should look like THIS. That's not Ghost Rider's bike, That's Johnny Blaze's. The one from the photo look's like I'd expect Zarathos's bike to look like, if it wasn't made entirely of hellfire. However, I'm more of a fan of the newer Dan Ketch Ghost Rider, than of the original Johnny Blaze/Zarathos GR. Of course. I haven't read the comics in over ten years, so I have no idea what's gone on with the new GR, since then. Edited April 12, 2005 by Greyryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 No no no, you guys have it all wrong. Ghost Rider's bike should look like THIS. That's not Ghost Rider's bike, That's Johnny Blaze's. The one from the photo look's like I'd expect Zarathos's bike to look like, if it wasn't made entirely of hellfire. However, I'm more of a fan of the newer Dan Ketch Ghost Rider, than of the original Johnny Blaze/Zarathos GR. Of course. I haven't read the comics in over ten years, so I have no idea what's gone on with the new GR, since then. Last I heard; Dan Ketch got his throat ripped out by Blackout and has to stay as GR to continue living. But... I don't know what's happened since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I would prefer it if it wasn't so shiny. Just make it look like its been burnt and blackened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm with the "Far, FAR too much chrome" crowd. The overuse of chrome just makes it look like bad CG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Jenius Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm with the "Far, FAR too much chrome" crowd. The overuse of chrome just makes it look like bad CG. Don't jinx it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Uh. Who's supposed to play the famed Ghost Rider? Nic Cage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Cage would be kinda neat for that role... maybe a orgin story for GR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 It's all about the bling these days... maybe too much bling. I dig the flaming wheels though. Wonder how they're gonna do his flaming skull... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Wonder how they're gonna do his flaming skull... Set Nick Cage's head on fire? That'd be the easiest way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 This will always be the Ghostrider bike for me - I'm with Max. The original Ghost Rider story was the kind of cheesy one-shot that you'd expect in a book dedicated to cheesy one shots... which it essentially was (Marvel Spotlight #5-11). Even though the Blaze/Zarathos Ghost Rider launched the series, the Dan Ketch/Noble Kale Ghost Rider was much more suited to a superhero book. If I'm reading things right on the net, the Dan Ketch Ghost Rider story was never fully resolved, and they just kind of launched into a volume 3 with Johnny Blaze again possessed by Zarathos and transforming into the Ghost Rider. While the bike in the upcoming movie looks a lot more like Blaze's bike than Ketch's, Blaze's bike was largely unremarkable. With the demonic bone and skull design, I'd go so far as to say that it actually reminds me a bit of Vengeance's bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I wonder if they'll have Dan Ketch or Johnny Blaze. It would be cool to have the former because then Blaze could run around too. From what I read, the movie Ghost Rider will borrow elements from both the Blaze Ghost Rider and the Ketch Ghost Rider... but it'll be Nick Cage as Johnny Blaze as Ghost Rider. Not a Ketch in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaramu Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm sure you guys have seen this Ghost Rider statue released a few months ago: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) Looks too happy, like a guy dressed for halloween. Ghost rider should have a completely neutral look on his face with no emotion. Lots of shadows in the eyesockets and gritted together and rotted teeth are better. It should look as if the 'thing' was a dead person - no emotion, no indication that the enviroment itself has an effect on its mood. No sense that what we are seeing is even human. Plus the wheels aren't flaming on that, (only the road) indicating a bike that doesn't have a supernatural quality to it. I hope they just make the whole thing dirty and gritty. The character would look better if designed to give a feel more for a horror movie that would scare the crap out of you if it had been real, than something superheroic and comicbook like..(shiny and fake cg like spiderman 1) Will this movie have much gore or violence? I reckon if they could just make movies like it suitable for a nongenre movie person, the character will have a much more lasting impact. A lot of attention is paid to how it looks but the goal should be what impression are we trying to give off? Would the character care about style or grace? The appearance imo should be 'messy and disgusting', like you'd be afriad to even touch him since he looks like a corpse that has been unnaturally reanimated. The costume itself wouldn't look hollywood clean, but have an old worn ugly and aged appearance to it. Maybe even have dust and cobwebs on bits of the bike and the person. The thing you got to give todd mcfarlane credit for is that he at least wasn't afriad to make his characters really dirty. (I remember the original mcfarlane spiderman comics and how yucky everything looked. Even the spiderman cobwebs were disgusting it really set the mood) I wouldn't mind if they dirtied the bike a little and gave everything a crusty, ready-to-fall-apart-and-rot look to it. With a hint that how it is all put together is through being supernaturally strengthened rather than naturally robust. To me the shiny look gives off the feeling it is new with a manmade, organised structure, when the bike would be better off hiding that impression with broken lines, twists, curves and uneven surfaces as if pieces were chaotically welded together, not molded to exact specifications like how the chains looks neat and perfectly straight. Also the SFX shouldn't make things look too solid and hard and inflexible. They should allow for shock abosorbtion and flexibility between parts so when the bike is pysically being ridden upon, you can be convinced of the physics. When everything looks like it has been made of one material, you immediately believe the bike should be rigid without any give and would behave a certain way or weigh a certain amount. I think if they could make the character less demonic (it's not on any side - just on its own) and sadistic looking and more neutral in emotion (no enjoyment, no sense of high or low emotion) in the movie, it would be more scary and interesting. For those who don't read comics, it should be a complete mystery as to what 'it' is. They should think of it as 'the ghost rider' rather than "Ghost Rider TM" the marvel super hero, if you know what I mean.. Edited April 12, 2005 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 it does look very cg.. I wonder how they'll shoot it? Will Nic Cage be driving around on a blue or green harley? And he'll be dressed the same too I guess. Sexy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSW Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 it does look very cg.. The fire effect is completely CG in the photo...and they overindulged the CG fire reflections on the bike itself (which looks way, WAY overdone) I agree with 1/1 LowViz Lurker, it would be beter if the bike looked pieced together sorta like something from the Road Warrior...a frankenstien-ish machine, but with very unconventional parts...Radial engine from a WW1 bi-wing or something...the whole cromed dipped HD basied chopper thing is currently too "hip" and cliched...it looks like it just screams "I'm owned by a RUB who only rides me from one pub to the next" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesker99 Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Heck, at least this bike look's like it could be Ghost Rider's, can't say the same for Batman's new wheels.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarensaas Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 It looks like something Spinal Tap or Iron Maiden would ride into a concert stage on. Even though I liked the new version of GR in the comics, the chopper look has that bad-ass vibe to it. It would be cool if they went R with this one, but I'm sure it will be PG or PG-13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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