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I'll say this; the show is entertaining, but it's as much to see where they're going with the story as it is for the extraordinary comedy of errors and obscene buffoonery by, more often than not, trained professionals disregarding said training and paying heavily for their negligence. This show is positively rife with improper actions and poor decisions that are just blatantly made to serve the story. Every time somebody makes a huge oopsy, they should just give a wink or a nod at the camera b/c it's like having sex in an 80s slasher film- it's all a gratuitous precursor to the ensuing chaos and death.
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Quite right, especially when we compare to: Exactly, they should have started from the 1/65 as base reference sculpt and improved from there. But I guess Bandai is going for minimal effort just swapping a few parts from the 171.
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I'm hoping that Bandai will make some last minute changes to the DX VF-17S to make it a bit more lineart accurate, but I'm not holding out much hope.
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A brand new toy based on a 14 year old release? Oof. They should have done a missing link 1/65.
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With the announcement of the DX Chogokin VF-17S, adding to the M7 hype! 🤣
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So, the issue is purely Bandai's terrible design choices for the leg, and their inability to write proper instructions. I wrote a detailed guide to everything they did wrong in the old 171 thread, and listed some steps to hopefully help prevent the legs from exploding, but there is nothing that will fix the issues with the knee without a fundamental redesign of the knee mechanism.
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I think the only way to get a VF-17 that looks lineart/anime accurate in all three modes will be if Bandai makes a model kit of it in the HG Shortcut Change model kit line, with swabable chunky lower legs.
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I personally feel more secure with my renewals transformation. the plastic on the triangles isnt as brittle as the original.
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Thank God I prefer the 17D. The 17 has a ton of anime magic. Just hard to get all three modes somewhat presentable on a toy. But if you all are warning it has the same flaws/design issues as the 171, it makes it a much easier pass. Don’t feel like dealing with preorder madness garbage either.
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ah man.... this is kinda Unaccpetable.....
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@Bolt @Test_Pilot_2 Thank you!
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@MommarYes
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Thank You from the bottom of my heart!
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i wonder if the shoulder triangles will crumble
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lol
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"Holding up" doesn't do anything to fix the fundamental flaws in the engineering of this design. The legs are still one misguided transformation away from shattering, unless they've completely redesigned the mechanism, and I saw no change with that in the renewal.
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I'll add the DX VF-17S to the collection. Maybe keep it in Fighter mode and use the Yamato 1/60 for Battroid mode. Hoping that a HMR VF-17S also gets released.
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General 1/18 Scale Figure and Toy Thread
sh9000 replied to sh9000's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
GI Joe The Movie figures coming soon.
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Your Most Recent General Toy Purchase - 2024 Edition
sh9000 replied to azrael's topic in Anime or Science Fiction
Transformers Generations Studio Series TFTM Ironhide.
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This is one of those occasions where the Yamato version is just better, imo. I was fine with the way the 171 as it was designed that way from the start. But the 17 was a chonkier design and had its own charms and aesthetics that were its own. The head even seems disproportionate to the body on this Bandai version. I wonder if the FAST packs will work on this if they decide to do them.
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But, to be fair, so far the revival VF-171EX is holding up OK, with no issues.
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Yeah, so checking the pics more carefully, it looks like they are reusing a lot of VF-171 parts. As a result, there's a lot of things that are not lineart correct for the VF-17. It's missing the VF-17's dual micro-misille launchers on each shoulder. It's got incorrect VF-171 dual micro-missile ports on the inside of each lower leg. Lower legs are way too skinny. I'm sure there are other areas that are not lineart correct also.
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I'm surprised how positive reception to this has been. The 171 is one of if not the worst DX Valkyrie (second only to the V1 VF-25) and is now repurposed with almost no changes for a design that has totally different proportions from the lineart. The YF-21 got a lot of crap but at least it was an earnest ground-up effort.
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Bandai just deliberately skipped leg day assymetrically on this...
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Skinny or not im going for it, unless Arcadia steps up.
