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On 7/27/2014 at 4:53 PM, no3Ljm said:

Hi everyone! Here's my first contribution on tightening the joints. I've included the texts on the images itself. I know it's not that in-depth but just the basic stuff so that everyone can get an idea on how to start tightening theirs. And hope that's ok. I remember asking questions on how to tighten the shoulder joints on the Messiah on the VF-25 Renewal thread. And so far members answered to use superglue and if I'm not mistaken Saburo replied with a video post of the YF-29 Durandal. (I will repost that video here next time in case members have problems with the YF-29 joints.) Which when I tried to check both shoulders, they're not the same. And the joint that was fixed on the YF-29 is not the joints that I want to repair. So I dared myself to try and pry open the shoulder armor on my VF-25F. And here it goes...

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The reason why I didn't use the SuperGlue is because it can get messy and if that dries it leaves some white marks and white flaky stuff. That's why I look for an alternative first. And so far it works great. I will contribute more since I'm in the process on tightening other joints on my VF-25F Alto and YF-29 Isamu. ^_^

Hope that helps.

I love the use of the hand sanitizer rubber!

I just got a Renewal VF-27 Lucifer and was really disappointed that the legs still swing freely in robot mode.  I was hoping the renewals would have fixed this issue...

Anyway, would this method work for the Lucifer also?

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:58 PM, Magnus said:

I love the use of the hand sanitizer rubber!

I just got a Renewal VF-27 Lucifer and was really disappointed that the legs still swing freely in robot mode.  I was hoping the renewals would have fixed this issue...

Anyway, would this method work for the Lucifer also?

It should work, there are other methods too... 

You can apply any of these to the hip ball joint:

Clear nail polish, pledge floor care finish (clear), future floor finish, or kiki fix loose joints.

Gently apply and let dry... usually 1 or 2 coats will fix the issue, since yours is new I'd go for 1. Let dry at least 2 hours but preferably leave overnight before reassembly

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4 hours ago, RealJayDee said:

It should work, there are other methods too... 

You can apply any of these to the hip ball joint:

Clear nail polish, pledge floor care finish (clear), future floor finish, or kiki fix loose joints.

Gently apply and let dry... usually 1 or 2 coats will fix the issue, since yours is new I'd go for 1. Let dry at least 2 hours but preferably leave overnight before reassembly

Thanks, I used a bit of shaved silicone from a sanitizer strap and Kiki liquid, and now they're rock solid.  Same with my Isamu YF29.  Just with there was a way to fix the rotating wing engines on the latter, but ah well. 

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4 hours ago, Magnus said:

Just with there was a way to fix the rotating wing engines on the latter, but ah well. 

Glad the silicone thing works out on you too. :hi:

As for the rotating wing engine, you can tighten that up by putting a small strip of scotch tape (magic tape) in-between. ;) 

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On 12/29/2021 at 8:28 AM, badboy00z said:

Does anyone know how to (if it's even possible) tighten the hip joints on the DX VF-31s? Even though they're ratcheted the ones on my Messer is looser than I'd like.

Also what about the waist twist joint? I tried taking it apart (2 screws) but I didn't want to try prying the plastic apart with force.

 

Hey homie, I had the same issue as you with my DX VF-31J. One leg felt looser than the other, for sure. I felt particularly brave today and wanted to see if it's possible at all to do so myself! Before I start though, this is my first time posting here with images, so forgive me if the implementation is a bit wack (advice would be welcome!) But anyway, I went about trying to disassemble the hip section.

It wasn't pretty.

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There's two screws. The back is easily accessible, but the front is hidden under a plate I had to bust in order to open, as shown in the image above. The good news is that this plate in battroid mode will be hidden, and people would have to look real hard under the gerwalk/fighter mode to notice the break. CAUTION: Open up the hips on top of a large table. The parts are liable to pop off and you don't want small bits going out. The image above also shows what I found underneath. The gears associated with the legs push against this ridged die cast plate, which are supported and pushed up by springs.

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When I took the diecast plate off, I did notice that the springs are uneven, in the image below. I'm not mechanically inclined so I don't know what the term is, but one looks a bit more deformed than the other. That's the side of the loose leg. When I swapped the springs and I reassembled the hips, I did see that the looseness had swapped with the springs. So, there you go. I'm pretty sure that if we replace the springs with stronger ones, it'll make the ratchet tension better. I'm about to go to Home Depot to see if I can buy some 4mm x 10mm compression springs, I think these are the ones that would fit.

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On that note, if anyone has advice on how to make my maintenance post better, please let me know. I'm just happy I can finally contribute.

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10 hours ago, apharmd said:

 

Hey homie, I had the same issue as you with my DX VF-31J. One leg felt looser than the other, for sure. I felt particularly brave today and wanted to see if it's possible at all to do so myself! Before I start though, this is my first time posting here with images, so forgive me if the implementation is a bit wack (advice would be welcome!) But anyway, I went about trying to disassemble the hip section.

It wasn't pretty.

img_20220605_111434k2jcx.jpg

There's two screws. The back is easily accessible, but the front is hidden under a plate I had to bust in order to open, as shown in the image above. The good news is that this plate in battroid mode will be hidden, and people would have to look real hard under the gerwalk/fighter mode to notice the break. CAUTION: Open up the hips on top of a large table. The parts are liable to pop off and you don't want small bits going out. The image above also shows what I found underneath. The gears associated with the legs push against this ridged die cast plate, which are supported and pushed up by springs.

img_20220605_111511qfk4q.jpg

img_20220605_11155747jqo.jpg

When I took the diecast plate off, I did notice that the springs are uneven, in the image below. I'm not mechanically inclined so I don't know what the term is, but one looks a bit more deformed than the other. That's the side of the loose leg. When I swapped the springs and I reassembled the hips, I did see that the looseness had swapped with the springs. So, there you go. I'm pretty sure that if we replace the springs with stronger ones, it'll make the ratchet tension better. I'm about to go to Home Depot to see if I can buy some 4mm x 10mm compression springs, I think these are the ones that would fit.

img_20220605_1143396ikk8.jpg

On that note, if anyone has advice on how to make my maintenance post better, please let me know. I'm just happy I can finally contribute.

Your post could not have been better! I can follow clearly what you did, what the problem was, and how you plan on fixing it. My interest as of late has been Delta valks and this is a valuable piece of information, thanks!:good:

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My copy of Mirage AX had a backplate on the wing assembly put together rather poorly from factory which made it look real gappy. It has been bothering me until today my OCD has taken over.😆 At the same time I added some colors to the missing detail, thanks to much needed tips from @Lolicon. For those who wish to disassemble the wings for whatever reason, there are 4 screws underside that are hard to miss. Simply undo the screws and wiggle out the entire back piece. The only thing will get in the way is the folding arm connecting the gunpod, just got to find the right angle and carefully slide it out.
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I have a question for those with Arad’s 31S. Is it expected to inevitably end up with some paint rub and chipping where the dragon skull emblem is? - I was lifting the container arm up *gently* for the first time on my recently acquired S, and a chunk of paint just rubbed off right before my eyes.😱 I looked at my other 31 variants, looks like some of them have the rub on the same spot…Any fixes available or am I simply SOL? Thanks..

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