Deadzone Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 I want to know exactly who is this Jack Archer guy. I thought he was some character made up for the PS2 video game Battle cry. However, I grew up only watching Robotech. They don't broadcast subtitled Macross shows over here. Was he a character in Macross? Since toynami is releasing a Jack Archer exclusive, I would imagine he was somebody bigger than just a made up video game character. What's the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurin Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Totally made up for Robotech: Battlecry on US Console systems. . . as far as I know. H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 he's made up, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 (edited) Dude, like, welcome to MacrossWorld. But, uhh, wrong-forum, man. This is the Toys area. Check the Newbie-thread in Movies and TV forum above this or re-post at the Other Anime forum below this forum where they're some big discussions with regards to the Robotech YF-1R. Edited October 13, 2003 by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmacks Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 glad to hear from you surfer mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91WhiskeyM6 Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 *SNIFF* smells like a dead Robotech rat in here....peeeww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperOstrich Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Wrong forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 he's made up, sorry Not like the rest of the characters, Hikaru is a real guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladic Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 I believe he also made a Cameo in the Comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchOne Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 As far i as i know he is at least a character in Battecry. May be is one one too in comics but not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draykov Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 *SNIFF* smells like a dead Robotech rat in here....peeeww Whiskey's at it again. Givin' the uninformed hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadzone Posted October 14, 2003 Author Share Posted October 14, 2003 *SNIFF* smells like a dead Robotech rat in here....peeeww Ah yes, always nice to see people unafraid of giving their opinion. So here is one right back at you. I can't really comment on the Macross TV series. However, I imagine I would not like it as much as Robotech considering I don't like reading my television shows and I don't plan on learning Japanese. I also like the voice acting in the Robotech series. BTW you smell like a Macross snob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebhead Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 he's made up, sorry Not like the rest of the characters, Hikaru is a real guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rewooh Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 holy crap deadzone... you're member number 666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isamu Atreides 86 Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 holy crap deadzone...you're member number 666 creepy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchOne Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 holy crap deadzone...you're member number 666Â creepy.... scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry the lone wolf Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 As far i as i know he is at least a character in Battecry. May be is one one too in comics but not sure. In DC/Widstorm Robotech#0, there's a pilot that resembles Jack leading a squardron of Veritechs against malcontent Zentradie in the Badlands. His group fell into a trap and was saved by Rick in a prototype Veritech. However, HG has been ambigous on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 holy crap deadzone...you're member number 666Â creepy.... scary SPOOKY <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noriko Takaya Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Ah yes, always nice to see people unafraid of giving their opinion. So here is one right back at you. I can't really comment on the Macross TV series. However, I imagine I would not like it as much as Robotech considering I don't like reading my television shows and I don't plan on learning Japanese. I also like the voice acting in the Robotech series. BTW you smell like a Macross snob. Dude, you do not know what you are missing then. Consider it HG's fault for not allowing Macross to be dubbed into English and tell the original story without any of Robotech's alterations. I find Macross to be lightyears ahead of Robotech in storyline. Fellow Macross snobs unite! Noriko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 If you must unite, please do it in a quiet and orderly fashion, so as to minimize the disturbances to the rest of us. Thank you. This is a recording. *beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine23 Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 (edited) Fellow Macross snobs unite! If you're gonna unite all over the place... try to form some sort of mighty robot like Voltron, would ya? Otherwise... it just sounds a bit frilly. EDITED because spelling things correctly is fun. Edited October 15, 2003 by Blaine23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Fellow Macross snobs unite! If you're gonna unite all over the place... try to form some sort of mighty robot like Voltron, would ya? Otherwise... it just sounds a bit frilly. EDITED because spelling things correctly is fun. And I'll form... the head! Go! Voltro... uh, Macross Snob force! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 *SNIFF* smells like a dead Robotech rat in here....peeeww Ah yes, always nice to see people unafraid of giving their opinion. So here is one right back at you. I can't really comment on the Macross TV series. However, I imagine I would not like it as much as Robotech considering I don't like reading my television shows and I don't plan on learning Japanese. I also like the voice acting in the Robotech series. BTW you smell like a Macross snob. Don't take it personally, Deadzone. From time to time, we get snots from RT.com who come over just trolling over, looking to start a flame war. Now, whenever someone comes around, admitting that they're not familiar with Macross and talking about Robotech, we instinctively reach for our guns. In all fairness to you, you weren't trolling, you were just asking an honest question. The honest answer is that Jack Archer was made up for Battlecry. He may or may not have turned up in the comics later, but he was definately created for the game. As far as the whole reading subs vs. watching dubs, I can respect your opinion (although I myself prefer subs, as the Japanese voices are usually much better than the American dubs). However, unlike other anime that's been shown in the States, where they just translate and maybe change a few names here and there, that's not the case with Macross/Robotech. Robotech is actually a meld of three unrelated shows, and much of the story has been edited and re-invented to make all three parts fit. The original Macross TV series is a much more mature and slightly darker story than the Macross Saga of Robotech. And, Macross has better sequels than Robotech, that take the story in a much different direction. While we do have some fans here who still claim to like both, many of us actually drop RT entirely for Macross. If you ever get the chance, check out the original Macross and see what you think. For more info on the differences between Macross and Robotech, check out Leb's Site or the pinned topic in the beginning of this forum. For more info on Macross in general, check out the Macross Compendium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewilen Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 (edited) Fellow Macross snobs unite! If you're gonna unite all over the place... try to form some sort of mighty robot like Voltron, would ya? Otherwise... it just sounds a bit frilly. EDITED because spelling things correctly is fun. And I'll form... the head! Go! Voltro... uh, Macross Snob force! It's not Voltron. It's Golion and Dairugger XV, you pathetic ignoramuses. B) Edit: And although most of us prefer Macross as Macross, not Robotech, some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Edited October 15, 2003 by ewilen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Fellow Macross snobs unite! If you're gonna unite all over the place... try to form some sort of mighty robot like Voltron, would ya? Otherwise... it just sounds a bit frilly. EDITED because spelling things correctly is fun. And I'll form... the head! Go! Voltro... uh, Macross Snob force! It's not Voltron. It's Golion and Dairugger XV, you pathetic ignoramuses. B) Edit: And although most of us prefer Macross as Macross, not Robotech, some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Mospeada = sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 ... some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Well... I'd take Elton John, Barney, and the Teletubies over Macross 7. So yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Border Red Devil Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Well... I'd take Elton John, Barney, and the Teletubies over Macross 7. So yeah. ROFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isamu Atreides 86 Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 ... some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Well... I'd take Elton John, Barney, and the Teletubies over Macross 7. So yeah. now thats what i call loathing something.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerwalk25 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 ... some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Well... I'd take Elton John, Barney, and the Teletubies over Macross 7. So yeah. I hope Keith didn't see that! ~G25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeszekely Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 But I liked Macross 7. If they could have found a way to do the story without Sound Force, yeah, it would have been better... but I still liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 ... some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Well... I'd take Elton John, Barney, and the Teletubies over Macross 7. So yeah. Now Im debating wiether or not I want to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 ... some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Well... I'd take Elton John, Barney, and the Teletubies over Macross 7. So yeah. Now Im debating wiether or not I want to see it It will burn your soul... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom64ss Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 *SNIFF* smells like a dead Robotech rat in here....peeeww Ah yes, always nice to see people unafraid of giving their opinion. So here is one right back at you. I can't really comment on the Macross TV series. However, I imagine I would not like it as much as Robotech considering I don't like reading my television shows and I don't plan on learning Japanese. I also like the voice acting in the Robotech series. BTW you smell like a Macross snob. Hey Deadzone, Don't mind Whiskey, he just gets a little surly whenever anyone mentions Robotech. (Kinda like the horse in Young Frankenstein whenever anyone said "Frau Bluecher" ) The majority of the people here are actually very nice. I, like yourself, never used to like reading subs. But I've found that since I watched Robotech as a kid and then saw the uneditted Macross with subs later on, after a few times, you can just turn off the subs and know the basics of what they're saying anyways. Nowadays, subs don't bother me anymore, since I rarely have to read it more than once, and my Macross DVDs are something I like to watch quite a few times. If you dig Robotech Macross Saga, you should definitely give the original SDF Macross a watch. It's a little more mature than Robotech and once you get past the subs, you'll probably end up liking it more than Robotech (I've never met anyone who didn't). Many of us discovered Macross because of Robotech. To this day, I still feel nostalgic whenever I see a Robotech episode. It catches a lot of the flack from people here who are frustrated with HG. I give it credit for introducing me to some great anime, but it wasn't until I saw the animes that made it up, that I realized there as a lot of amazing stuff I was missing by having only been exposed to Robotech as a kid. Watch "Do You Remember Love" too (there's a thread around here somewhere discussing the several dubbed versions of that if your still hesitant about subs). That was the first "real" Macross thing I ever watched and to this day, its still one of my favorites. Other Macross stuff that's dubbed are the Manga releases of Macross II: Lovers Again which has really cool mecha, but not the best story and is not a part of the official Macross timeline and the Macross Plus OVA Vol. 1 & 2 (The movie version is subbed) which offers some of the most breathtaking animation ever, especially the dogfights. BTW. did you wait to join just so you could be member 666 or were you just lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfunk Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 ... some (many?) of us do like Superdimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada--possibly moreso than some of the Macross sequels. Well... I'd take Elton John, Barney, and the Teletubies over Macross 7. So yeah. Now Im debating wiether or not I want to see it It will burn your soul... now this really makes me think (taken from for sale section) For Sale: Macross 7, the entire DVD series. Every episode, all the bonus stuff, and the movie. All on eight DVDs spread over two box sets. I bought this brand new several weeks ago, watched it, decided I didn't like it and am now trying to recoup some of my money. damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Border Red Devil Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 It will burn your soul... Nah...more like you will want the 20+ hours of your life back if you watch everything Macross 7. I know I do..... (SDF Macross) is a little more mature than Robotech and once you get past the subs, you'll probably end up liking it more than Robotech (I've never met anyone who didn't). I can think of at least two people on this board for whom that statement is untrue. Cyclone, who is an unrepentent Mospeada nut....and myself. I prefer Southern Cross. However, I love Robotech because it really is the only way that I will ever get to see more of my beloved series...though with the way that Tommy Yune is doing things...that might not be certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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