CdnShockwave Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) I'm just looking at some pix of the VF-19 Fire and Blazer Valks. Just what are these? Who makes them? I've seen the Bandai versions, but are those the only ones? Before I comit to buy one I want to make sure I get a half decent one. I ask because the Bandai ones seem to go for around $50 each, but there are others that go for much less. Can anyone shed some light on this? Here are some pix of what I'm asking about. Are these the Bandai ones? Or is there another manufacturer? Who makes this version? Edited December 22, 2005 by CdnShockwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Chinese or perhaps Taiwanese (I forget which) bootlegs. Quality is not too bad though. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnShockwave Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Chinese or perhaps Taiwanese (I forget which) bootlegs. Quality is not too bad though.Graham 354286[/snapback] So they're aren't bad? As in, worth $12.00 each? Anyone else have any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 If they are the same as ones I've seen previously then yes, they are worth $12. IIRC, the Blazer comes with the wrong shape wings (has Fire Valk wings instead of Blazer wings). Also, the shoulders are not the same color as the original. I don't own one at the moment, but lots of members here do, so I'm sure there will be some more comments on this thread. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress_Maximus Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I've seen some interesting customs using those. Not sure if it is "worth it" per se, depends on what you want to use them for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I bought mine for 30 bucks each thinking they were originals. Found out too late they were boots. My blazer valkyrie came with red shoulders and gunpod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanata67 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 the <$15 bootlegs are near identical to the bandai's for all intents and purposes. I have had boot's, originals, and re-issues and the originals and boot's are the best for me... primarily because the reissue instructions start you off in the opposite mode than the fighter is in... retards at bandai I'll tell you what, they should all be...@#%!)#$^!@#*%^)@#%&!#%&)*)&~@#$()~@$^*)*)~@$^*)@#$^*)~)*&~*)~&*)~&*)&~*) not that I had problems transforming my first 19 which was a reissue honestly though... and you will never hear me say such a thing again ever so pay attention... buy the yammie 19 and not the bandai . it might be 15x the cost of a bootleg but it is sooooo worth it. At the very least buy a bootleg and not a bandai as I've never noticed a difference. Wait... buy my bandai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) I don't own a boot but I have a bandai fire valk. Well the one thing I like about this is the nose is actually nicer than the yammy in fighter. The battroid mode looks ok but has bad posability. (no moving the legs except at the knees and ankles and a bit at the middle of the thigh.) It feels nice and sturdy (if a bit lightweight) though. You can play with it, and there would be no fear of something breaking. So whether it "feels worth it" for the amount of money you pay depends on you. I'm thinking of eventually wanting to get a bandai blazer to sit alongside the fire valk but I don't think bandai will reissue it. (may cave in and get a boot though) Oh and the landing gear looks horrible. hehe What is funny is how the posabilty of the legs for the bandai vf17 is good at the upper part (vf19 is fixed to one position - bad point for vf19) but poor at the knee. (VF19 allows you to bend them backward - bad point for vf17) ...Like you can have one point of articulation but you must lose the other.. Did some guy decide that you must suffer in one area if you gain in another area, so it's "fair"? Maybe they deliberately wanted macross fans to suffer? Edited December 23, 2005 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eming Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Some of the later versions of the boot VF-19s don't have the groin piece. Heres a pics of the original VF-19Blazer http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/emingfu/PA080092.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 If you're going to buy a VF-19S bootleg, look for one that has grey shoulders and the blazer head, you'll feel better about it later. They're harder to find, but a worthy substitute for $150 original blazer valkyrie. The fire is nearly identical between the bootleg and Bandai versions. Only differences you'll see are paint really. Pretty sure they're made from the SAME molds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronv Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I got a few custom mods of the bootleg VF-19s, their ok in fighter mode and blah in robot mode. Good for customs sicne their cheap (Under $20 a piece) and easy to take apart to paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 $150 for the original Blazer??? That's crazy talk. I bought all four original Mac7 toys for under $150 shipped. Maybe the chromed blazer might cost you that much... I sold a reissue VF-19 Bandai for like $30... it's not hard to find them for that price on eBay. Still, you can get two knock-offs for that price so it depends what you're doing with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) I challenge you to find me a Bandai blazer for under $100. $150 is and has been the going rate for them for a while (on ebay at least). EDIT: Of course when I say that I find on ended on Ebay for $91 recently. SOmehow that one slipped by me...damn. When did you buy all 4 for under $130 shipped? 1996? Edited December 22, 2005 by easnoddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearyaks Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I got a few custom mods of the bootleg VF-19s, their ok in fighter mode and blah in robot mode. Good for customs sicne their cheap (Under $20 a piece) and easy to take apart to paint. 354424[/snapback] Sorry.. can't comment on the fire valks but awesome icon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronv Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Icon fits this forum doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) I challenge you to find me a Bandai blazer for under $100. $150 is and has been the going rate for them for a while (on ebay at least).EDIT: Of course when I say that I find on ended on Ebay for $91 recently. SOmehow that one slipped by me...damn. When did you buy all 4 for under $130 shipped? 1996? 5961922624 1/65 Bandai DX Fire Valkyrie Macross 1 $16.39 USD $16.39 USD 5961923234 1/65 Bandai Blazer Valkyrie Macross 1 $31.99 USD $31.99 USD 5961923725 1/65 Bandai Stealth Valkyrie Macross 1 $16.39 USD $16.39 USD 5961923859 1/65 Bandai Stealth Valkyrie Macross 1 $74.50 USD $74.50 USD That was in March.... all four for under $150 shipped. Edit - added pics so you can see they're not boots Edited December 23, 2005 by jenius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBe-Patt Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) I challenge you to find me a Bandai blazer for under $100. $150 is and has been the going rate for them for a while (on ebay at least).EDIT: Of course when I say that I find on ended on Ebay for $91 recently. SOmehow that one slipped by me...damn. When did you buy all 4 for under $130 shipped? 1996? 354433[/snapback] dang you really haven't been looking online huh? It's true that blazer valks have been going for a lot, but all the ones I've seen lately have been pretty cheap and all under 90. I even got my lot for cheap, VF-17S, VF-17D, and VF-19S all unstickered, unused and minty condition. Here's the auction: Mac 7 auction And even before that, I was kicking myself for not bidding on all four that ended at $99.99, with just one bidder. Total with shipping was 120. But I don't know if those valks were unstickered and minty like mine. So there's your challenge. I even know where I can get a VF-17D and VF-19 fire Valk, both unused for 50 each + tax. I think that's pretty damn good for the VF-17D, but I don't know about the VF-19 fire valk. That I've seen go for hella cheap on ebay, because of the bootlegs. Even back in 1996 when they first came out, all four valks were at 4800 yen or so. So about 50 bucks each, and then add in the shipping. Stores here had them for about 80+ for each one. Anyway, about the blazer bootleg. I bought one back in 98 when they first came out for 25 bucks. My bootleg was pretty much identical to the original blazer valk, paintwise. But the difference was it was the fire valk body painted blue. The head was the same. I'd say pick up the bootlegs and worry about the originals later. The only ones I'm missing is the Fire valk, VF-17D/S special coated versions. Edited December 23, 2005 by BoBe-Patt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 aw, you mean these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeo-mare Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 those chrome ones look really nice. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBe-Patt Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 aw, you mean these guys 354553[/snapback] yes, just the two in the back. I bought the VF-19S one from a member here a long time ago for like 60 bucks shipped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) those chrome ones look really nice. Yeah.... not exactly the most photogenic though since they don't really cooperate with flash-photography but they stand out nicely in a display case. I have long-since removed the non-chrome ones from my cabinets but these guys will probably stick around for a while. I'm also afraid to transform them though... it was scary enough just standing the VF-19s antennae/guns up... I was worried a piece of chromey plastic would chip off or something. Edited December 23, 2005 by jenius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBe-Patt Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 One thing I don't like about them chrome versions is that after you take them out of the box to display them, you have to wear gloves!! I had to clean mine over and over. Pretty annoying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress_Maximus Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 No wonder those Max Factory Mazinkaisers came with white kid gloves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeo-mare Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 actually the Max Factory ones were not bad at all, these however i can see are different. my old Yujin Gaofighgar chrome was like that, it had finger prints all over it and they were hard to get off of it. it seems that the very chrome things are like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 BobePatt...seeing that made me want to throw up. And I have been using ebay every week for 8 years now and have NEVER seen a Blazer go for that cheap... I remember the first 17D I had I bought and sold on Ebay for $100 or so. Now I'm trying to re-get the 17D and 19S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlenhoff Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I have an original one, "Bandai" They are basically simple. In the other hand, they are actually fun. Go ahead and get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanata67 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I challenge you to find me a Bandai blazer for under $100. $150 is and has been the going rate for them for a while (on ebay at least).EDIT: Of course when I say that I find on ended on Ebay for $91 recently. SOmehow that one slipped by me...damn. When did you buy all 4 for under $130 shipped? 1996? 354433[/snapback] challenge accepted and met http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...AMEDW%3AIT&rd=1 Item number: 6025034186 MACROSS 7 BANDAI VF-19S BLAZER VALKYRIE 1/65 SCALE MIB Bidding has ended for this item at US $53.50. You were outbid look at the other auctions... set of four for less than $150 all won by snoddy. and if snoddy is who I think it is... I best get some damn props Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 You were DAMN right and I cannot believe it. Yeah, it was me. I won all 4 (for $141 plus shipping). Color me very happy. The 17D and 19S were the ones I mainly wanted since I have the reissue 17S and can get a 19c easily. I couldn't pass up a whole set though for under $150 though. The boxes look to be in good condition as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I hate to dig up old threads but I finally got these from the seller. OMG! The boxes are in at least C-9 condition (probably 9.5+) and are each sealed in celophane. I would guess that the valkyries have never been out of their boxes and stickers are unapplied. WOW! In fact, they're so nice I'm very hesitant to take them out of their packaging...gah! I want to take it out and sticker it up SO BAD! UGH... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBe-Patt Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 you need to post up some pix now!!! do eet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 So it's not too bad paying around $20 to $25 for both bootlegs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross73 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 i bought 3 of boot legs for next to nothing awhile back and they're ok for customs, not that i've had the time to them. I got the Bandai 17s and its construction is similar to the Bootlegs. i gave the 17s to my brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyrie312 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I hate to dig up old threads but I finally got these from the seller. OMG! The boxes are in at least C-9 condition (probably 9.5+) and are each sealed in celophane. I would guess that the valkyries have never been out of their boxes and stickers are unapplied. WOW! In fact, they're so nice I'm very hesitant to take them out of their packaging...gah! I want to take it out and sticker it up SO BAD! UGH... 361746[/snapback] Gah! You outbid me for those! Congrats - they look like a lot of fun. I will get a set at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT junkie Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 (edited) Thanks for starting this thread Cdn. I've been eyeing those 1/65 scale cheapos myself and was hoping to find some reviews on here. Never seen Macross 7, but need something "new" to add to the collection. Buying VF-1 after VF-1 is starting to feel a little repetetive.... maybe I'm getting some wierd mecha version of the 7 year itch???? The VF-0 is months away.... need a fix now!!! Edited January 19, 2006 by RT junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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