Alex Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) I'm really beginning to question exactly who wrote Frontier. Here's how I picture it. INT-Kawamori's office. Late night SK-"ok, bring back Hikaru et al. Check. Explain everything about Proto-culture. Big ol ticker-oony. Great. This is one big ol fan-w$nk of a script. I'll be a hero. FROM BEHIND, A FIGURE EMERGES FROM THE SHADOWS AND PLACES A GUN TO KAWAMORI'S HEAD Stranger- "Don't move. Good. Now. You're gonna make some changes to this script, see. SK- "Who are you?" Stranger- "Call me Carl M. Nah, too abvious. Call me C Macek." SK- "Uh. O.....K?" Stranger-"Now, you're gonna put Invid in the script." SK -"What?! Can I at least make them giant lobsters?" Stranger-"Fine. And I want a male character who gets mistake for a girl. A real Yellow type." SK-" Why?! That makes no sense. How'd he end up a pilot?" Strnager-" God, I dunno. Just create some civillian provider type organisation." SK-" BUT.......fine. Anyhting else?" Stranger-"Yeah. Everybody in power armour that transforms into bikes" SK-"AW. Can I at least have them be like planes instead?" Stranger-" Yeah, whatever. Just make sure they have powered armour suits" SK-" Any more requests?" Stranger-Yeah. Throw in an android. Call her Janice." SK-"I prefer Grace" Stranger-"Whatever, we can just dub over that for the US" SK-"WHAT!?" Stranger-"Nothing!" SK-Yeah, whatever.....hey.....that's not a gun. It's a stapler!" Stranger-"AND AWAY INTO THE NIGHT I FLY!..................................Is there like a latch on this window to........?" SK-"No, you just have to pull it up at an angle.........Yeah you got it.." Stranger-"AND AWAY INTO THE NIGHT I FLY!!!" Edited January 26, 2009 by Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Here's why: SK-"ok, bring back Hikaru et al. Check. Explain everything about Proto-culture. Bick ol ticker-oony. Great. This is one big ol fan-w$ank of a script. I'll be a hero. Yeah - a hero amongst fans of Robotech who crave exactly this kind of fan-wank which goes totally against the grain of Kawamori's style of leaving wonderful things wonderful so as not to ruin their memory. Stranger-"Now, you're gonna put Invid in the script." SK -"What?! Can I at least make them giant lobsters?" Just because they are red does not make the Vajra "copies" of the Invid. The Invid were metal mecha piloted by goopy little creatures who evolved using the "Flower of Life." The Vajra are bio-weapons that use fold waves and have no individual personality and communicate through their stomachs. Also - they come in brown variants as well. They have nothing to do with Invid - and to make the Vajra-Invid connection, you need to be a Robotech fan in the first place. Stranger-"Fine. And I want A male character who gets mistake for a girl. A real Yellow type." SK-" Why?! That makes no sense. Why does it make no sense that a theatre artist who dresses up as a girl and takes much of his looks after his beautiful mother wouldn't want to quit being an actor and be a pilot instead - and constantly get mistaken for a woman? Alto has his faults as a character, but the premise is interesting. To compare him to Lancer-Yellow Dancer makes no sense. Stranger-"Yeah. Everybody in power armour that transforms into bikes" SK-"AW. Can I at least have them be like planes instead?" The power armor does not transform into a plane and the aesthetic has nothing to do with the cyclones from Robotech. If anything - the theme is a continuation of the notion that pilots are helpless in space. Remember in SDF Macross when Hikaru yelled at Misa for not understanding - and only when she saw the battroid with its' chest ripped off and the dead pilot floating inside did she get it. The power suit was developed so pilots could survivei n space and save themselves even if their valkyrie was hit - which happened a few times in Frontier. Consider it more like a PARACHUTTE for space than a Cyclone fighter. Stranger-Yeah. Throw in an android. Call her Janice." SK-"I prefer Grace" Grace is not an android. The body is an empty shell for an A.I. program similar to Sharon Apple - and incidentially this theme of A.I. versus nature/naturalism has been around in Macross since Plus and if anything, is a hommage to Plus. As for Grace's character design - see Dynamite Macross 7. Janice, on the other hand, is nothing more than a walking android - a stereotypical cliche character that has been around as long as Sci-Fi. The comparissons are off IMO Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) I really was just kidding around. I wasn't being totally serious. Edited January 26, 2009 by Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 You're fortunate nobody is carrying pitchforks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 the window gag at the end is good. I imagine batman's layer like that, racks and racks of windows bruce scrutinizes trying to figure out the best way to open them all sneaky like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 You're fortunate nobody is carrying pitchforks. I knew I would risk getting some flak for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I liked it. There's way too much seriousness in this thread. Just imagine the consequences, though, if HG is reading this and they also take it too seriously. Or is it more like "Wha?? How did they KNOW what happened in that office..?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I knew I would risk getting some flak for it. I only said pitchforks that does not mean we do not have torches, firewood and rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 LOL The conspiracy revealed at last! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 For my part , all the flak I'm throwing is not personal Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Carl Macek's moved on from the epic he couldn't finish on screen and doing new, wonderful things. Let's see... um... Anyone here a fan of big birds? He writes books for reals. To be fair it's almost like a Veritech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taksraven Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Thanks. Thats thirty seconds I will never get back...... Taksraven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Funny idea!!! Does Carl Macek not have a single cell of originality in his being?!!! So he is still just going around taking credit for other peoples work by screwing up the words?!! Pathetic.... (I am still somewhat still grateful though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I am so mad I read all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchizophrenicMC Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Um... Since when are Rhinoceros Beetles the same as Lobsters? My somewhat original redux of a quote of the day: "When we die, our bodies become the flower. And the Invid eat the flower. And so, we are all connected in the great circle of life." -Some dude no one cares about in Robotech, because this is a Macross Board, not a Robotech one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisaForever Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I CREATED ROBOTECH!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Please don't shoot me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchizophrenicMC Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I CREATED ROBOTECH!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Please don't shoot me Ready? Aim. Fire. "I am sick and tired of these mothafu<%ing Invid on this mothafu<%ing ship!" -Samuel L. Mothafu<%ing Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protoculture Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 You're fortunate nobody is carrying pitchforks. I only said pitchforks that does not mean we do not have torches, firewood and rope. Gather the MOBS! Burned the heretic, I say, let 'im burned like 'em witches! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF18 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) What is robotech? Come on it is obvious Macross F is influenced by Star Trek. Vajra and Grace fraction become borg when combined. F's main plot contain classic element of both trek and Macross - hard to communicate and understand alien, and abuse of technology lead to bad result. Edited January 28, 2009 by CF18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin3060 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Ahh.. but resistance wasn't futile in this case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I didnt think anyone would be proud to have written Frontier... story was way lame... action was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akt_m Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Isn't Macross F all about valks, loli-Ranka and Tsun-Sheryl?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Ahh.. but resistance wasn't futile in this case! Yes it was. I grew increasingly annoyed with each episode after #7.... and yet I watched every last one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Pfft... Everyone knows Robotech came first!! Kawamori stole the idea from Harmony Gold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf Prime Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Ready? Aim. Fire. "I am sick and tired of these mothafu<%ing Invid on this mothafu<%ing ship!" -Samuel L. Mothafu<%ing Jackson Now Samuel L Jackson is going to have to get a role in the live action movie so he can say that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 So, your saying HG won after Kawamori tried to steal their idea for a super mecha show, and now they have him safely locked away in Japan where his rip-off Macross series is enjoying its only success. And HG, as absolute proof that they are the true, one and only creators came up with - the Shadow Chronicles!?!?!? So much better to be Kawamori... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 So, your saying HG won after Kawamori tried to steal their idea for a super mecha show, and now they have him safely locked away in Japan where his rip-off Macross series is enjoying its only success. And HG, as absolute proof that they are the true, one and only creators came up with - the Shadow Chronicles!?!?!? So much better to be Kawamori... What are you talking about, people loved... that... mov... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchizophrenicMC Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 What is robotech? Come on it is obvious Macross F is influenced by Star Trek. Vajra and Grace fraction become borg when combined. F's main plot contain classic element of both trek and Macross - hard to communicate and understand alien, and abuse of technology lead to bad result. "I am Locutus of Borg. You will assist us." -Ranka Lee, Macross Frontier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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