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Finally done the pre-order for the Legioss Omega.

Beautiful.

Right? The VF-17 is supposed to be a heavy battroid. Looks like Gamlin skipped leg day at the gym...

we're digressing, the whole point is what it looks like in the anime. I was responding just to one point of your comment to Chronocidal. I agree with some of your points but I wanted to debunk just one specific point. You brought up a point of the 171 and 17 have the same leg sizes and it's the CG vs. M7 art style the reason the proportions look different. I was responding that it isn't the reason the 171 looks thinner than the vf-17 by comparison of a CG VF-1 compared with M7 and SDF-1 TV/DYRL Macross depicts the VF-1 consistently, CG or not. Kawamori at the helm of all these shows he's going to make sure the VF-1 are proportionately the same CG or not. So the 171 being done in CG is not a great reason for the difference in leg size between the 171 and 17. if you can link me to the source of the material that says the 171 and 17 legs are identical in size, I'd appreciate it. (i'd like to read up and crappy General Galaxy designs) but yes, I agree with you, Bandai sucks with this one.

Hopefully, Bandai doubles down on that "mistake" prototype they showed years ago and releases that TV-Style SDF-1. Maybe even compound the bad decisions by adding a Macross city in the legs and adding magnets and solid locking mechanisms for the main guns. That would sure show us!!!!111!11!!!!!1!!1!!

Yeah I'm holding off on any purchases until we get more options. Japan seems to be a blanket 10% tariff? But add processing fees etc... Heard on a MB Facebook group that even bringing stuff in your luggage can get tariffed if over a certain value. Seems to depend on border agent but also targeting China and Japan incoming flights.

Looking back at the promo shots. Still cant get over how skinny the VF-17 is as compared to the VF-19 Fire Valkyrie Really hope that this is a mock up and bandai will do some changes to beef up the legs of the VF-17S

Yea... a 3d printer and also a scanner (would help). I have the first release 171EX and the re-issue from a few years ago, but idk if I want to put the leg work in for something Bandai is probably going to or already has lined up. Yup not sure about the backpack cannons either, but Bandai can also change that part (the cockroach shell) of the mold up to include connection slots with minimal effort. That's a lot less work that modeling a part up from scratch (ie. the thick legs). I only modeled up a VF22S conversion because I fanboyed hard, lol.

I'd honestly like to see them try. It would be a technical marvel, starting with crazy instructions to teach the customer to detach the old waist/lower fuselage, because I don't see fat legs fitting without dropping the hip pivot to stay centered with their thickness. TBF, the leg packs might already work, with some ugly bracing using the armor pack's plugs to hang the pack up against the wing, or they invent an external layer of armor as the brace. Wait, they could just make the original thick legs as the armor, and that armor could have the correct connection to the leg packs. It might actually work. Free idea for bandai. Just come preassembled with armor in the shape of the anime accurate legs, and pretend the intake/thigh gap from wearing armor isn't there, or cover it with extended armor. Nobody will know the 171's legs are inside 😁. I'm sure bandai won't have the balls to do it, but maybe someone with a 3D printer can figure it out The real magic is actually with the backpack cannons that come with the pack, because the cockroach shell has no connection slots and can't be latched on with hooks around the edges because they have to leave clearance for the arms and wings on all sides. Those will need double sided tape, or tossing out and replacing the top half of the plane.

I don't wanna check all the eps, but I'lll take your word for it. I'm assuming those didn't transform into battroid, which makes it easy for them to not care about proportions in CG. Dropping legs for gerwalk that might have happened in Delta did is not an issue. I've caught satellite straight up clipping, morphing, and camera blocking during transformation in the recent red ranger isekai anime with the CG megazord. It goes to show that CG doesn't mean much for correct proportions with full transformationa and articulation when it's still in animation. It's like how there's a VF-22 in delta, but everyone knows that thing can't transform in CG with the canonical designs. If it did, it would morph just as much as it was hand drawn. I'm even requested a check on the in game models in another thread. Even the games have to cheat and clip the shoulders inside the belly plate and make invisible the bits sticking out, and then have the whole assembly detached and fly out magically to reach the intake sockets while the yellow bits just disappear. CG doesn't mean it's a correct and realistically working depiction. What's at hand here is not a matter of how it's depicted in animation. It's that Kawamori or some supplementary magazine or some other product blurb invented some lore and set the stage for Bandai to be lazy here.

OH OH OH, I know what Bandai is going to do... they'll make correct thick leg fast pack add-ons available through PBJP! LOL... 🤣🙄

ahh okay my mistake for reading too far in then, lol. Okay if its just screws and swaps that should be fine.👍

I think that fear is a stretch too far. People have already put the super parts on their's just fine. They found the issue from comparing it to the back side and noticing that it has the correct front face on the wrong side. Busting out the wrong molds that should have been stored with their accompanying production run, while also already producing the correct parts is very whack. So far everyone has matched pairs, too. So it seems much less scary an issue than it initially looked. All it comes down to is whether there is a high chance of damage for the reassembly operation.

For all they get transformed, I wound up picking up a few of the 1/72 kits. Can leave the posable ones in battroid, and display the fighters in flight without any worries about the legs dropping off. I'll definitely spring for a Millia if they make it, but we'll see how the first one sells. If it starts getting dumped into the bargain bin, I'll probably grab one on amazon in case it just turns into a one-and-done.

They were definitely classics and got a bit less attention than other kits

I think I'll nab one just because it's a 17 and I love my 17 / 171's, just sad it's a franken valk between the two instead of a completely new toy. I still want the CF Brown 171's from delta

Well, that begs the question... what metric (if any) is FX using to assess the show's "success"? Are they looking at total minutes watched, average viewership, the trendline for average viewership episode-to-episode, social media engagement, review aggregator score, etc. Have they set realistic and achievable targets for whatever metrics they're using? Is the budget and/or licensing going to be caught up in the rampdown of Hulu as it is slowly absorbed into the Disney+ service? If Jimmy cracks corn and nobody cares, why does he keep doing it? These questions are examples of how it's much harder to judge if a streaming original series is a success or not since it's not dependent on publicly-accessible performance records like the Nielsen ratings. FX is obviously going to accentuate the positive for the press because the show wasn't a complete disaster, but it's anyone's guess if they'll actually renew the series for a second season and Noah Hawley could very easily end up with (ironically) egg all over his face having crafted one of the worst and most obnoxious cliffhangers in television history only to not get renewed.

As fun as it is to paint them as the villain for all sorts of reasons, I think it just all comes down to them doing everything in their power to min-max their profit margins. If they can make a quick-turn reboxing of the 171 with minimal new parts molding, and pass it off as the companion to their Fire Valk? You bet they're going to do everything they can to minimize the effort and expense involved. I frankly would have rather had straight repaints of the 171, but it is what it is, and if Bandai can be trusted to do one thing, it's that they'll never backtrack or admit their mistakes or bad decisions, no matter how obvious or stupid.

It could possibly be that the engineers are younger and appreciate an anorexic aesthetic versus or desire of a THICC Valkyrie. Just a thought.

https://twitter.com/Mrk_arcadia/status/1971717379974746409 web-translated:

Details.

Me thinks Bandai is quite capable of such. Unfortunately, they're just actively and deliberately not willing to do so.

Them white landing-gears are just extra leftovers from the HMR Fire-Valk.. Seems to be totally unaltered. Not painting them proper grey or so while jacking up the HMR VF-19P's msrp as TWE is just the usual and regular Bandai penny-pinching nickel-n-dime tactics...

If Bandai was capable of makes the legs thicker on the YF-21. Why wouldn’t they have just reengineered the legs on VF-17? I get the whole “save money” mantra but this is pure laziness. When have we not purchased high end items? This is Macross, buying expensive toys and related items is all we do. Saving money is not an option. Put out something great…we will buy it without a second thought. C’mon Bandai, you can do a WHOLE LOT BETTER.