typhoon Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Maybe you're right but all Renewals came with some gimmick: Alto flying in EX-Gear, a Ranka pilot figure, awesome grappling hooks. I can't think what an appropriate gimmick for Luca would be besides a Ghost drone. Plus he does not have a gun-pod in the show if I'm not mistaken. Do you remember the episode where Luca is captured and brought inside the Vajra battleship, Alto dives in and saves him but looses his Valk in the process. Alto then uses his Ex gear and takes control of The RVF-25, I'm sure he then raises the gunpod and shoots the system holding Luca and his Valk - that's the only episode I can clearly remember the RVF-25 with a gunpod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Yeah I guess you are right. This brings up the question where is it stored? The default slot between the arms is blocked in Fighter-mode due to the radar-fin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceoftherebellion Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Hidden inside of an animation error until it's needed, maybe? All giant robots come with extra storage for plot devices... Edited February 28, 2013 by aceoftherebellion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 But but the cg-models??? I just pretend in my mind that it was the gun-pod of the VF-24F that hovered mysteriously into the hand of the RFV-25. Also I would rather have a Ghost drone than a gun-pod for Lucas Valkyrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceoftherebellion Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 It takes effort to put in animation errors when you're working with CG Models, it's true... But where there's a will, there's a way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 When you have different CG models rigged for different types of animation, it gets REALLY easy to have those kinds of errors. I mean, look at how many times the markings on the spine of the VF-25F appear and disappear? They also really weren't very careful with the posing of the VF-25s in the series. Any casual freeze-framing will show a ton of parts passing straight through each other. It doesn't show up if you don't look very carefully, but while pieces don't have to necessarily change size to transform anymore, parts existing in the same physical space is the new anime magic. It happens though. Animation software isn't really built to avoid collisions, because there's really no consequence to it. Manufacturing CAD is another story, but they're not going to invest that much to make a cartoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Get ready bitches. http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-03110&page=top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceoftherebellion Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Plus there's the fact that I'm sure in this case it was entirely intentional. The scene required Luca's valkyrie to have a gunpod, so they used a model rigged with a gunpod. Whether his Valkyrie is actually equipped with one or if they just used one for that scene is ultimately irrelevant as far as the animation staff in that case would be concerned. They'd just be doing what the story-board called for. I mean, it's not like people are going to come in and nitpick every last scene, right? All jokes aside though, as Chonocidal said, just because they're using 3D models now doesn't mean that they just have one CG model for every mech. They'd be using many, each rigged (set up with joints and vector information) for specific types of scenes. There's no guarantee at all that anything is going to be entirely consistent across all models used for filming. It's a different kind of animation, but it's still prone to just as many accidents and errors as any other type of animation. Let's say, for example, they want 'robot A' to be in gerwalk mode for this specific movement, but they only need to do it once so they don't have a dedicated model for that? No problem, just skin this model of 'robot B' that was rigged to do that so that it looks like 'robot A' and call it a day. That sort of shortcut is extremely common in CG animation. That's not necessarily what they did here, but it's a good example of how you might get things like that. tl;dr, CG animation isn't a magic wand that makes animation errors and shortcuts go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Probably not going to bother refreshing there, but yeah, just saw that. I'll probably go for the NY order sometime tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 ...and this is the thread I'll be watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaitouSad Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 oh wow.. they've got a on sale soon link now? Nice..I'm still holding out for a VF-25F/S Renwal reissue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 You know, just a thought.. Has anyone ever bothered watching the Japanese site to see if they go up for sale earlier there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoexcaliber Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 You know, just a thought.. Has anyone ever bothered watching the Japanese site to see if they go up for sale earlier there? Even if they do go up for sale earlier, the Japanese website doesn't have the option to ship overseas. It's purely domestic the last time I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 T-minus 4 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edi Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I saw the link go up as well, it's going to be a refresh game. I'm also holding for a VF-25F/S renewal, as the current prices are way too high for me. But at least I still have a VF-25F rev 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Renewal Skull Squadron or BUST!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Wish I was sittin at my laptop instead of on the train. Phone better hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCracker Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The F5 game now starts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) Wow, only $111. There's no way I'm getting it at that price. ... good lord, between refreshes it sold out. Edited March 1, 2013 by Mommar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 AmiAmi went from "On Sale Soon" to "Sold Out" just now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 WHAT THE frakk?!? I MISSED IT! NO WAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valk-1S Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I kept hitting refresh and it automatically just change to Sold Out at Amiami. Like it was never put out there for anyone to be able to order at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tober Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 T-minus 4 hours. You might want to check that amiami link again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 BUNK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Y'all best be joking Ami. I've been loyal to you....lol. I've been refreshing every minute...there's NO way it was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Well the product notes say it won't be available until 4 pm Japan time so maybe that's just the way the website works. Either way, bed time for me. I'll read about the aftermath tomorrow I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Hahahahahah....ok! Next site.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yeah, there was like a 20 second gap between my refreshes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valk-1S Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I was hitting the refresh on their Japanese version site as well as it too change straight to Sold Out. Makes you think that they probably reserved their stock for perhaps their employees or maybe some priority members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidweezil Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 lol...so much for "released after 16:00 japan time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Ah well it'll work out somehow. Not gonna sperg out on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Wow, that's a new record! Sold out in -3 hours! Someone needs to get ahold of them and figure out how they're warping the space-time continuum. I need to go and re-think my life. This time shenanigans is messing with my notion of free will. Or I can just wait and order from NY, which is probably what will happen. I will never understand Bandai's marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoexcaliber Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I think you guys are freaking out. The VF-171 CF was also sold after 4 pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Well the product notes say it won't be available until 4 pm Japan time so maybe that's just the way the website works. Either way, bed time for me. I'll read about the aftermath tomorrow I suppose. Where does it say this??? I'm sorry, not seeing this right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Think it was listed that way on the Bandai site, announcing the release. I just wound up buying one from NY the day after for the 171CF, so I'm just waiting for it to appear there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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