chowyunskinny Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I've also been looking for a way to re-read all those comics. I was just a teen when reading them and I treated them all like disposable junk... I'd read one when I bought it then throw it in my closet. Years later when I left home my mom threw them all away. In 2002 Marvel put out 5 Trade Paperbacks that covered issues 1-50 with cover art by J. Scott Campbell http://www.yojoe.com/comics/marvel_tpb/ I picked these up myself back then, but I do still see them around at Local comic shops in L.A. I'm sure a google or ebay search will find em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 The J.Scott Campbell covers sucked. His art has detoriated into overly exaggerated figures(more so than before, his stuff before at least had a sense of realism). Ray Park is studying up on the old comics to find out more about Snake Eyes. Turns out he was a fan before he was casted as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 IESB has an interview up about the Joe movie. I love how some of these questions are danced around, without any real answers being given. Basically, if you liked Transformers, you'll probably like GI Joe. However, fans of good movies will have to find entertainment elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowyunskinny Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 The J.Scott Campbell covers sucked. His art has detoriated into overly exaggerated figures(more so than before, his stuff before at least had a sense of realism). Ray Park is studying up on the old comics to find out more about Snake Eyes. Turns out he was a fan before he was casted as well. Well yeah, he's no Michael Golden but they're not that bad. At least it wasn't Rob Liefeld. Darth Maul studying the old comics? I guess he's looking for some classic Snakes Eyes lines like ... and ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 What about him studying the new comics? Are they considered canon by the old fans? (At this point, I've read far more of the new comics than the old ones) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 What about him studying the new comics? Are they considered canon by the old fans? (At this point, I've read far more of the new comics than the old ones) GI Joe has a canon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsARCLIGHT Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 As far as I know the original Larry Hama penned Marvel Comics are the "official" canon of GI Joe. They are widely accepted as the "true" story of GI Joe followed by the Sunbow animated TV show... except that Sunbow pretty much did their own thing story wise and the two mediums clash on several subjects and characters. For what it's worth, the Hama comics are miles above the relatively juvenile TV show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Are they considered canon by the old fans Yes, the new comics actually tie into the old marvel run, though Devils Due did some things that irritate many, like killing off Lady Jaye for nothing more than shock value. For what it's worth, the Hama comics are miles above the relatively juvenile TV show. Agreed. GI Joe has a canon? Yes, the marvel run and current comic run. Reloaded was another continuity though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) What about him studying the new comics? Are they considered canon by the old fans? (At this point, I've read far more of the new comics than the old ones) I certainly consider them Cannon and why not? they continue off of the original storyline, and they're good. the only problem I have is that they ret-con Megatron out of the final issues of the original run. OH and the Lady Jaye thing sucked yeah... but the whole Red Shadows story-arc was horrible imho. Edited January 10, 2008 by lord_breetai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 except that Sunbow pretty much did their own thing story wise and the two mediums clash on several subjects and characters. Scarlett and Snake Eyes forever! None of this "Duke" person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) As far as I know the original Larry Hama penned Marvel Comics are the "official" canon of GI Joe. They are widely accepted as the "true" story of GI Joe followed by the Sunbow animated TV show... I agree, with the exception of the lame-ass GI Joe vs. the Transformers cross-over series .... meh! Edited January 10, 2008 by Vermillion21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I agree, with the exception of the lame-ass GI Joe vs. the Transformers cross-over series .... meh! Well the original crossover had no support from Larry Hama, and Megatron's appearance towards the end of the original series was forced too. It was Hasbro that wanted to see the two series crossover for marketing purposes, there were appearances by Flint and Cobra Commander in the Transformers cartoon as well. I can understand the decision from Hasbro's perspective they were the two most popular toylines they had at the time... both with an action theme of two armies fighting each other and both in the realm of science fiction to some extent... but while GI Joe do not seem out of place in the Transformers universe a lot of people have a problem with Transformers in the Joe universe. Personally I've liked all the different GI Joe/Transformers crossovers cause it never warped my whole perception of the Joe Universe that Transformers exist in it... (though if one follows the conclusion that GI Joe takes place in the mainstream marvel universe because Spider-man also appeared in the original TF mini-series AND J Jonah Jameson appeared in the GI Joe comics, it gets a little weird). I just took it that, "sure their are aliens in GI Joe... giant mechanical aliens but we're considered with the slightly more realistic adventures of an anti-terrorist task force and won't mention the TFs very much... got ya!" GI Joe and TF has always been connected to some extent... for budget reasons most of the BGM between the two cartoons was shared for example. I can understand why Devils Due ignored Megatron at the end of the series and made their own crossovers an alternate universe but I would not have a problem with a in-continuity crossover either... infact I'd like to see the G2 Transformers with the Autobot/Decepticon alliance that was formed at the end... that would be interesting. I wonder how a TF/GI Joe movie would be received? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I wonder how a TF/GI Joe movie would be received? It would pretty much play out like Transformers. The spec-ops guys in the movie could just as easily been given distinct personalities, codenames, and characteristic quirks. The irony here is that if a direct representation of GI Joe were to be injected into the Transformers movieverse, it would actually render the new Transformers silly and unrealistic instead of the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) It was Hasbro that wanted to see the two series crossover for marketing purposes ... That's what I mean, talk about a stupid-ass idea ... just lame. Edited January 11, 2008 by Vermillion21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It would pretty much play out like Transformers. The spec-ops guys in the movie could just as easily been given distinct personalities, codenames, and characteristic quirks. The irony here is that if a direct representation of GI Joe were to be injected into the Transformers movieverse, it would actually render the new Transformers silly and unrealistic instead of the other way around. hmm... I dunno, there are a few things that would make it diffent then the military angle played out in The Transformers movie. And would an anti-terrorist team with code names be less silly then a fast talking and comically inept Men in Black team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Still waiting on the confirmation but it looks like we might have a Duke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 They are talking about on the Joe board must aren't happy. If you try to google image search you'll find some gay mild pornish picks. The actor was a former Arbcombie & Finch model. He is best known for playing white thug looking guy who learns to dance in the movie "Step Up" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Arms Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 They are talking about on the Joe board must aren't happy. If you try to google image search you'll find some gay mild pornish picks. The actor was a former Arbcombie & Finch model. He is best known for playing white thug looking guy who learns to dance in the movie "Step Up" All of the casting choices look terrible for this film. They've gone way too young and Cheap IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=...ideoid=27117608 They need to get the guy who made this vehicle for the props department... Hisstanks! yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Final script review, news, & movie discussion here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Final script review, news, & movie discussion here! That review is terrible. The writer throws around Campbellian monomyth buzzwords without really seeming to understand what they mean. But hey, Stuart Beatie....and no "Cool Dude" so it's already better than the original abomination of a script that started this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Ray Park signed on for 4 movies, Gijoe trilogy, and Snake Eyes spin off. Storm Shadow is said to be a bad ass assassin who is envious of Hard Master's approval of Snake Eyes over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Review makes the film sound like it'll be good without dropping too many spoilers; guess we'll have to wait and see in summer 2009!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobob77 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Still no mention of Crystal Ball or Raptor. I just don't see this film without those characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 And what about Chuckles?? WTF? He was THE MAN in the animated movie. Hawaiian 'Magnum PI' shirt with the 'strong and silent type' characterization ... what's not to love?? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 And what about Chuckles?? WTF? He was THE MAN in the animated movie. Hawaiian 'Magnum PI' shirt with the 'strong and silent type' characterization ... what's not to love?? :lol: next time chuckles... use the rocket launcher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobob77 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 next time chuckles... use the rocket launcher! I guess he was thinking "why use a middle man?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I guess he was thinking "why use a middle man?" If we need any of the Rawhides it's Law and Order. "Hey Law & Orders the theme man! I drive the car; he finds the bombs... we tried it the other way but it didn't work" Or Jinx cause she's hot and she's Storm Shadow's cousin! booyah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I'm think about how Rex becomes Cobra Commander. I assume Rex had to be skilled enough and have a good character to be part of the team. A G.i.Joe should be able to resist normal methods of persuasion and corruption. I than started to think will the Movie Cobra Commander be like the cartoon one? What if it was the don't ask don't tell policy? There is no reason for Rex if I was right for the team to leave it. There is no good reason to believe that the team is incompetent enough to choose some that wasn't right to join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 AH HA HA HA HA HA HA! http://www.zshare.net/video/2103739eb22eda/ Not bad for a fan-film. But still a good indicator for just how cheesy it's liable to be when you try to bring GI Joe to live-action. LOL, even as a kid, I thought Baroness was a hottie--even if she was one of the bad guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 That movie is old news... If I recall right it was already linked elsewhere. Actually I'd say it was damn good for a fan movie... but what makes it corny is... 1) According to Joe intelligence Apophis was an Egyptian god??? According to Joe intelligence? We need military intelligence to look this stuff up? the Joes don't have access to an encyclopedia? 2) Why didn't Snake-eyes snap the Baroness' neck as well? He takes out a small fry with no qualms but only punches out a big snake and just leaves her there so she can recover? 3) When Lady Jaye breaks to go for the stone why does she shout? "Yo Joe!" and draw attention to her with drawl? wouldn't it be better to hope she isn't noticed in the chaos? 4) Why does Bludd tell Duke that Baroness went after Lady Jaye? They didn't seem to know up till that point and Cobra would have taken the day right there. 5) Why the fart did the Cobra Troopers want to take off Snake-eyes mask? He's not "Batman" it's not like knowing his face is going to do you any good... either just shoot him or tie him up. It's stuff like that... and the whole ancient Egyptian artifact of teh powa! that GI Joe needs to avoid in the live action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowyunskinny Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Don't know if it's the actual cast, but it looks like Sideshow Collectibles got the license to do 12" movie figures: http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=4277 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Ah, but that is precisely what makes GI Joe what it is--at least, as I remember the 80's cartoons: --the totally ill-timed and inappropriate [in combat] rally cries; hey, you're one of the good guys and damned proud of it! --the needless speeches revealing evil plans from the bad-guys --the merciless arse kicking of faceless minions, while sparing the honchos to fight another day --the irresistible urges to find out secret identities of good guys--and at the most inopportune times--even if it could cost you the advantage in a fight lol, these are staples of the genre. while a 10 year old watching Saturday morning cartoons wouldn't give it a second thought, one can readily see how this might not fly with an audience of 20-30-somethings, no matter how wistful and reminiscent they may want to be... Edited February 5, 2008 by reddsun1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 FYI: Supermodel KarolÃna Isela Kurková will play Cover Girl in the Live Action G.I. Joe Movie 2009 http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoryHolmes Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 FYI: Supermodel KarolÃna Isela Kurková will play Cover Girl in the Live Action G.I. Joe Movie 2009 http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4975 That's certainly appropriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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