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Found this one on 4chan. Never seen it before... Is both nice and sad at the same time...

Not quite. It was the pic someone trolled on 4chan. They took a pic of the mech from KISSDUM and 'shoped a VF-29 tag on it.

That's awesome, Gubaba. Complete with shoddy font work and everything. Don't let the 4chan bit get to you. You know it was some lurker jerk. I picked this up at Kinokuniya today for about 8 bucks as my salute to the festivities, and since it is the first. The new manga isn't half bad so far, and I like how Mikimoto's style is somewhat more reminiscent of his old work. I can't say I'm liking Vanessa's new look though. Not sure I'll get the chance to collect each issue, but at least I've got the première.

^ Bravo, nice work, sometimes, 4chan /m/ is a great place to stay!!! Edit: 'Kay, they changed Macross DYRL seeting to be 2009-2010 (due to alternative universes), Macross II to 2092 and adding lot of side stories/manga contents...Wait, "Macross English Anticipation"? I never heard of that, it sets around Macross 7 time, so I guess it has something to do with the Fire Bomber gang right?

This is probably for the best Gubaba. If you don't want your scans posted on 4chan or any other place, don't post it until it goes out of print. I'm sure other members here will repost your scans on other places and not admit to it when you release it here.

True, true. At any rate, it turns out this this was a false alarm. Trust has been restored, at least for the time being. I'm working with a couple of MW members on Macross the First, and we've pretty much agreed to hang on to it for a while before we decide to share it. We're pretty much guaranteed not to get the bragging rights for being the first one out there, but that's okay by me. Again, I'm sure all of this will become moot as soon as the first book collection of Macross the First hits Japanese bookstores. If I can keep the lid on the translation until then, I think that's probably the best I can hope for. I like Macrossworld, and just as many of the members (you included) have given me an awful lot, I really enjoy giving back. If that means that 4chan has to get their hands on it, too...well, I guess I just have to get used to that. But not yet.

Okay, here it is again...the dialogue is still ineptly scanned in, but I did take the time today to fix the glaring error in the translation (and "punch up" Luca's speech a little more...). So yeah, this is Version 2, and better than the one that I posted before. Again: THIS WARN YOU! This document is for Macrossworld use only! Please don't repost it at Danbooru, 4chan, or anywhere else. I've scanned all of issue one of Macross Ace, and scanlations are in the works, but I want them to be here AND NOWHERE ELSE. Thank you, and enjoy.

I don't think non-members can access the attachments...certainly, I can't access them if I'm not logged in. Due credit isn't the issue. I don't really care if anyone knows I made the translation or not. If someone else wants to say that they did it, fine...it's got mistakes in it, so they can take the blame for those. The point is that Macross Ace is a new publishing venture, and (like Macross Chronicle), I want it to succeed. So the Macross F Outside Story was kind of a test...if I posted it with a warning and it DIDN'T show up elsewhere, then I would know that I could proceed with Macross the First with some degree of safety. Now I'm sure that once the collected volume comes out, scans of MacFirst will be all over the internet, but for now, it isn't. NOTHING from Macross Ace is, just like nothing from Chronicle is. A page here and there is fine...people will see it and may be moved to buy the magazine. But since Macross the First really is the primary draw of the mag, giving it all away too soon could be disastrous. My problem is that I really WANT to scanlate it, and I'm not sure when the right time would be. Macross Chronicle? Fine...the translations are of minimal use without the magazine, and it's a finite series. We wait until all the issues are out of stock, and THEN post the yummy, yummy pics. The comics in Macross Ace, on the other hand, will likely be in print in book form for years or decades to come. I'm working on subs for the remastered SDFM DVD set, but that's been out for over a year now...it's first sales cycle has come and gone. So do I wait until MacFirst Volume One has been out for a year? I don't know. I really want to translate it, and I really want to share it with MW members...since everyone here I've interacted with has been...enthusiastic about Macross, if nothing else (no one can deny that even the completely irrational a**holes here are enthusiastic, right?). But I don't want to share even part of the blame for Macross Ace's potential failure. It's the nature of the internet, I know...but still, although I'm hardly the goose laying golden eggs, I am providing stuff that Macross fans want. I don't care if the information from Chronicle gets disseminated around (in fact, I'd like it to), but if we're talking about scanlations of comics, well, that's different story, and I need to know that I can trust EVERYONE here. Otherwise...I don't know. Maybe I'll start some kind of one-on-one thing where you have to ask me directly for the zip file, so I can keep better track of who gets it and who doesn't. EDIT: Let me stress that EVERYONE I've interacted with here has been a solid, upright individual. Even complete berks like m***** and j***********. So I'm not blaming anyone except the one guy who took it over to 4chan, and I'm ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE he's no one who actually posts.

If it's any consolation - the 4chan link doesn't work anymore. Anyways - Gubs knows my opinion/suggestion, so I'll just limit myself here to singing Journey: Don't Stop Belieeeeeevvvviiiiiinnn'!!! HOLD ON TO THE FEELIN' yeaah! Don't Stop Believiiiiinnnnn'........... Pete Big Journey Fan

4chan steal you! http://zip.4chan.org/m/4.html

Okay, here's my translation and (rather inept) scanlation of "Macross F Outside Story." It's by Hayato Aoki, artist and writer of the official Macross F comic, but personally, I think his style works better for this flat-out comedy story. Some of it isn't an exact translation...In particular, I "punched up" the music-cue directions (because I and my ego agreed that my version was funnier) and Luca's monologue because...well, because I couldn't help myself, really. ATTACHMENT REMOVED BECAUSE SOME A**HOLE PUT IT UP ON 4CHAN. IMPORTANT NOTE: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KEEP THIS ON MACROSSWORLD ONLY!!! I noticed that my scans of pages from "Macross the First" ended up on Danbooru, and I really don't want that happening here. Nor do I want to see this on Macrosshare. Or anyplace else. KEEP IT HERE, PLEASE. Thank you.

--Resisting self from typing standard 4chan Xzibit response---

I love it when whiny people post this exact comment to try to provoke an admin into doing exactly that and thus prove their stupid point. Seriously, if you can't see the charm of this place and why people come here, no one is forcing you to stay. As others have suggested, you can find all the spam or stupid things you want on 4chan or some other board.

Have Frontier's disc sales been this strong?!? If it's true then that's quite impressive (yes the source is 4chan). Top 5 Best Selling mecha show of the last 10 years (numbers in average of copies per volume of DVD/DVD and BluRay): 1. Gundam Seed(And Destiny) (66,000) 2. Macross Frontier (55,000) 2. Code Geass and R2 (48,000) 3. Gundam 00 and S2 (35,000) 4. Gurren-Lagann (20,000) 5. RahXephon (9,000)

http://www.4chan.org Click on that link. Problem solved.

Please take these dumb threads back to 4chan.

oh damn, it's made it to 4chan... (I'm worried about the context)

Well, if Sketchley won't point you in the right direction, I will. I've sent you a link to a site in english that sells all of the books you're looking for. Incidentally, I saw your VF-4 redux on 4chan, and was quite impressed. Nice work. EDIT: Had to reword that, didn't send him scans, just pointed him to a site that'll sell him the book.

I just read about that today.Thank you 4chan. Lets see if I can russle up a pic... http://zip.4chan.org/m/src/1232728189973.png Just learned about Viper's Creed and RideBack today.They both seem to have some interesting mech designs.

Finally, I just found some new Macross Zentradi fan art in Danbooru and 4chan...

I recall there being complaints about season 6 when it was airing. There will always be complaints about any show. But you make it sound like there was a universal rejection of the show by "the fans" which is simply not true and something I don't believe. To bring this back on topic with a Macross example, I think people on forums have a problem of scale when it comes to the reception of a show. Just because you visit a couple of forums where a lot of people are having flame wars about a show, it doesn't translate to a massive repudiation of that show in ratings/sales across the country or the world. With Macross Frontier as an example, you had 4chan's /m/ forum raging about the show constantly since the beginning. To hear it from some of those people, Frontier is the worst piece of garbage ever put to film and not worthy of any merit. I've seen the same kind of complaints from very biased pro-Robotech people. But the arguments of these two segments of fans hardly translates to a widescale rejection of the series.

Good grief...Macrossworld has turned into 4chan... I'm going to have to smoke an extra turd in hell for creating this thread, aren't I...? By the way, @Master Dex: I actually like Macross 7, Macross II, and Macross Zero much better than I let on in the original post. I was trying trying to rehash the arguments as succinctly as possible so that other people wouldn't feel the need to rehash them at length. I have, perhaps, failed in this endeavor.

Frankly, it bugs me a lot that people don't really know what they are talking about when they use the word "shojo" (maybe you come from 4chan?). Most famous school life anime are either from shonen magazines (for boys) or seinen magazines (for adult males) or even from eroge (for males). Just check the demographic of a title with Wikipedia and you'll be surprised. Trust me on this one: heterosexual love without incest -> most likely for male audience. This is why the characters of Gundam 00 are aimed at a girl audience for example, the homosexual relationship between Lockon and Tieria dominates all other possible ships. Maybe they got accustomed to? Even in SDF Macross Hikaru was shocked when he first confronted a Zentradi face to face, but then he pull himself together for the rest of the anime. I think the anime was focused instead of showing attrition in the surrounding world. You are misunderstanding even this one. There is a conflict between two styles of communication, one based on the belly (emotions), the other based on the head (thoughts). In Japanese there is a word, haragei (belly art), which means "comunication without words or gestures". If you watch anime, you should have found many cases where victory is achieved through co-ordinated team playing. In the final episode of MF all good guys are essentially doing team playing, like the Vajra were doing from the start. The opposite is Grace's implant network, which forces people together without the need for feelings of bond. FV

Happy New Year everyone... I found this image in 4chan a day ago... Is it from the Macross Chronicle?

I think most of us internet savvy folks already know what the image in question already is.... the infamous longcat. It has so little to do with macross its not even funny. seriously.. its just 4chan nonsense. To be honest (and please do not think i'm getting at you), if i was a mod on a forum this was posted in (any forum, not just macross), i would just delete it for spamming - taking up too much space and being damned annoying to scroll through. dont mean to cause anyone any offense, just my 2 cents. EDIT - now i come to think of it... this is.. ...pants. heheheh besides, ceiling cat was always cooler.